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1938 and even 1939 are pointless years to use because there was almost no superheroes being published yet. Your point about 1941 is fair, but what's that look like in 1951? I think the point he's making is that after the initial boom during the war years, superheroes weren't that popular - again - until the 60s/70s.

I'm not 100% in love with the published image either, but that's one cover where I think it will look a lot better in black and white. There's a lot of mishmashed colors that are a bit distracting that won't be present on the OA.

Yes, exactly, and so that’s the relevant metric I think. The market has a lot of factors moving up and down within it comingled into results. At the end of thr end of thr day, even if we take Covid volatility out of the equation as best we can there are still other trends effecting the marketplace. For example on the comic book side I’ve noticed that LB Cole covers have been on fire and have stayed hot. ECs have strongly trended up as well. Ie not everything has returned to 2019 levels because there have been some supply and demand changes.

1st true appearance of spider-man!!! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Sure. I think the real question is what was that splash worth at the end of 2019, and what is it worth now? You have to throw the whole covid era out.

oh sure. I don't think anyone's arguing otherwise. However art has held up pretty well overall, largely because it really didn't rocket upward in the first place to the same degree that copper drek did. Didn't rocket to the moon = doesn't need to fall back down so far.

No to be that guy, but to earn 5% interest in 4 weeks you need a 60% bill rate. You’d earn more like 5%, if that’s your rate, x4/52

I don’t care for the image that much either and I didn’t read avengers but have heard many people bring up that issue. Can someone remind the unwashed as to the significance of that issue?

honestly, I'm not surprised it hit six figures. I was going to post that as a prediction and didn't just in case I was going to look silly if it fell short. Its an infamous piece, its a hot era, etc. It is... unique.

maybe the fact its a back cover helped

Corben stuff has seemed strong lately. I love his covers and I'm glad to see his work doing well. I had the same initial reaction to this page, but when I actually zoom in on the HA image, most of the panels really present quite well. If it still isn't to your taste, 1971 undergrounds may not be for you in general? I think its really pretty neat. I wouldn't pay 30k for it, but its neat.

Yes; I'm not quite sure if that's because its not superhero material, or what exactly. BWS wolverine seems to have shot up, so it seems to be more about the property than the artist. TBH in relative terms I think it was expensive 10-15 years ago, and I think its getting cheap now. A decent BWS conan cover going for the same money as What If 11 seems dumb.

here's one going strong in tomorrow's auction: Robert Crumb Vulture Goddess (Vulture Demoness) Sculpture Original Art (1990).... Auction 7342 | Lot: 93147 Current Bid: $150,000

that sounds about right.

There are also multiple printings of Superman 1 and Batman 1, but there isn't a big value differential there.

I'm sure you're right about, but with reset expectations, is 78k roughly the expected number? My initial expectation when I saw the page was 100k. But then I got to thinking that might be too much for the current market. I can't quite decide if that's me Monday Morning Quarterbacking... or just reflecting a reset expectation. Overall the auction seemed like a mixed bag to me. Some results that seemed light and some that didn't.

what if cover for 60k seemed very strong

I thought the Barks painting seemed a bit low at 75k for a beautiful image... no scrooge in this one though. Dr Strange 5 cover at 84k seems really strong to me for that cover. Cockrum xmen 102 splash I guess is about right at 78k? but what a gorgeous page. Fabry Bane 2 cover at 26k seems cheap compared to some of these others but it did only sell for 7k ten years ago. TOS 39 page seemed on the strong end of the range. I would have guessed maybe 250? But I can't fault the buyer at 336, that's an incredible page to own.

I'm going to say its even more

While that’s good advice for some I think there’s more to it for a lot of people. First of all the wheeling and dealing can help people collect more of what they like if they manage it well, but more to the point… for some people, and to varying degrees, the wheeling and dealing itself is what makes them happy as much or more than the items themselves. Different people collect in different ways and there’s no one size fits all answer… not even ‘collect what you like.’ I think collect HOW you like is closer to the heart of the matter.

yep, such a great comic book, congrats

welcome

No idea as to value but almost certainly OA. His estate was recently sold at a small auction house in TN.

That clip is hysterical 😂

well done on both of you. Its both a terrific carving and difficult to identify at the same time. Stripped of colors and black lines and so on, its hard to tell.