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Because it's not at all simple in that most of its power came from the long span of time it developed over. She became established as a character, transformed into Phoenix, warped into Dark Phoenix, and ultimately died over the course of almost twenty years in the comic with four full years of that being just the Phoenix saga. Claremont developed just the Phoenix elements slowly over the course of years, but overall that's an extremely lengthy amount of building up of the relationship between Scott and Jean and between Jean and the fans, something you just didn't get even after two full Bryan Singer films. The most vivid impression you got in those films was Logan's attachment to her, and that was a total side note in the comics. But it's understandable that they were able to establish that so well since it was so much of a comparatively minor plot element in the comic.

This may be my bias towards cats showing, but my guess is that you've inspired a much larger percentage of people exposed to you to want to punch you in the face than the average tabby cat has.

You sure do seem to spend a lot of time talking about things you don't like, Bosco. He's pretty different from Bosco. Bosco had a slight but persistent tendency to argue endlessly about a subject he felt he was right about, but he didn't do it about almost every subject and usually tried to be polite and often wanted to make amends after a heated exchange if the other person was being at least relatively civil. Bosco is more like a labrador, TwoPiece more like the calmer varieties of pit like the American Bulldog.

He's the guy who asked the moderators to create this sub-forum, and they did. They're pretty good about doing that when it's of a relatively clear benefit. I posted only one time about creating a "Comic Book Grading and Restoration Issues" sub-forum back around 2003 or 2004 and they did it the next day with the exact name I proposed, although I think Bosco had to keep suggesting it for a few weeks or months before they finally came around on it a few years ago. His full username is Bosco685: https://www.cgccomics.com/boards/profile/10432-bosco685/

Where did Bosco go, anyway? Did I miss a FDQ exit, or did he just run out of time for the forum?

I'm rolling my eyes at all the damn melodrama three to five times an episode. I want to see mutants fighting, not mutants spending half of the show complaining about how hard it is to be a mutant. So far the Strucker mom is doing just as much parental whining as she did last season.

Blade got better reviews, but those were mixed as well with 54% on Rotten Tomatoes. Venom's box office is likely to be similar to Blade's as well even adjusted for inflation. It is a good comparative example though in that both Venom and Blade are very dark action superhero flicks.

The overwhelmingly common pattern is the scores go down by about ten points from the beginning until a week after release. He's an exceptionally difficult character to translate to a standalone film; maybe the hardest in either universe tried to date. Deadpool is similarly challenging in being an anti-hero, but he's got the extreme humor going for him that Ryan Reynolds brought to life in a way I had no idea was possible. Venom is quite different though because he's just dark and dark with an extra helping of dark layered on top. I've never seen the character done in a way in the comics that would ever appeal to a mass audience, so I was baffled by Sony's persistence over the last decade in getting a film about him out. I'm glad it happened though, I'm thinking I might like it knowing that most reviewers were never going to.

White socks, black shoes..... just lost credibility. The Feige leaves superfluous stuff like fashion sense to the Avi Arads and Ike Perlmutters of the world. He's too busy being a comics nerd to worry about such trivialities.

I look at it as just one step closer to Sony ultimately and wisely deciding to just leave this all to the comics professionals.

Just to clarify Disney's role in this--they had no role, right? They produced Homecoming for Sony, but Sony produced Venom entirely on their own, didn't they?

A perfect example of a Spider-Man fan loving the character but hating Venom is Sam Raimi. He's made no secret of the fact that he never liked Venom as a character nor did he ever want to include him in Spider-Man 3 but that Sony forced it upon him. I was 13 when Secret Wars 8 came out and 17 when Spidey 300 came out so I was the target audience, but I've always seen a wide dislike among older fans for Venom. I've never fully understood why that is, but I do know that my own favorite part of the character is the near-infinite variety inherent in an organism that can shape itself into almost anything like the symbiote can. The extremes that McFarlane took that to--including that over-the-top gaping mouth of teeth with the slobbering tongue--was massively appealing to me, but I can see older fans not being able to get past the suspension of disbelief required to believe that any organism could ever be so powerful or not caring so much about the infinite variety inherent to the physics of the symbiote.

Yes, stop looking at stuff before the trailers. I was dreading The Dark Knight prior to hearing the early buzz on how awesome Ledger was in it. Batman Begins was already my favorite Batman film by then so I had hope, but I really loved Nicholson as Joker and doubted Ledger could ever surpass him prior to that early buzz about nine months before the movie came out and before Ledger died. I've got similar bad expectations this time, too, but I'm pushing it back out of my mind pending a trailer or some solid industry feedback. Even a trailer probably isn't enough. I loved the first Suicide Squad trailer with Leto in it, but that turned out as a bust anyway.

The symbiote even looks shiny right on the cover of his first appearance in Secret Wars #8.

I assume they modeled the appearance on that of black oil which also looks shiny. Below is a pic of the character Strawberry Fields covered in oil from the Bond flick "Quantum of Solace." Why's that a problem?

I like the CGI on the symbiote in both Spider-Man 3 and these trailers. Given that it's a fictional creature that we have nothing in nature to compare it to, what are you guys expecting? It looks in both films about what I'd expect based upon the way Venom is drawn in the comics.

Deadpool Logan (a man with claws that kills a lot of people) John Wick (kills people with a pencil) Extreme violence mostly cuts out women and older/younger audiences with the examples you listed being included. That still leaves a huge audience though as those movies illustrated. Venom's bizarre design is what mostly worries me among men and women who like this kind of thing. I find the idea of the alien symbiote and its powers to be the most unique and compelling thing about him, but I've consistently found that most people just don't agree and can't relate to the symbiote concept. Kids tend to be open to unique ideas like that but older audiences definitely don't and I doubt women will either. I'm hoping this movie proves me wrong about that, but I'm not expecting it to.

I've been bracing for disappointment for almost a decade since Sony first announced a Venom solo movie. I love him, but he's never seemed like a mass-appeal character because he's too bizarre and violent for most people.

Should be good with Bullseye as the villain, but we'll see.

Trailer was better than I expected. I wasn't looking forward to it, but now I am.

Gonna have to take your man card for that one buddy.

Oh my LORD, now THAT shows the Venom I always loved. I don't much care if reviewers or most people like this or not--I've seen general skepticism over the concept of Venom my entire life even within the hobby so it's nothing new to me--but the idea of getting awesome, unique action shots like that is all I needed to get me hyped for this.

Do you also not care about your own posts in those 80+ pages, or is it just every other forum member's posts you couldn't care less about?

Maybe Overwatch, but saying it blows away games in other genres like World of Warcraft is like saying basketball is better than baseball. Fans of basketball might agree, but baseball fans never would. In-genre comparisons like Overwatch vs. Fortnite work though. That's like saying baseball blows softball away, which are two sports similar enough to validly compare.