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Couldn't tell much. I'm unfamiliar with the character aside the fact that she lost her Ms. Marvel powers to Rogue and eventually turned into Binary, but the only stories with her I've read are the Binary appearances in X-Men. The trailer seemed basic and didn't do much to make me interested in her. That doesn't mean anything about how good the film is or how much I'll like it, but if the job of a trailer is to reel you in, it didn't do that. I'm still generally looking forward to it and I'm hoping the reviews are good enough to make me want to go.

Just based upon the trailer I'm expecting it to go down from there over the next few days.

Yep, because put more specifically to the comics market towards the end of that 20 to 30 year time frame a majority of people who were alive to buy comics off the stands will be either elderly or dead, and it's difficult to see that not affecting the market in a negative way. History suggests that the right keys, i.e. those in high demand with a low supply, should continue to beat the stock market average over that shorter term of 5 to 15 years you mentioned. I doubt either of us can come up with a likely reason why that wouldn't continue to be true over the shorter term.

I bought a CGC 9.4 copy in 2001 for $1000. At the time I bought it and for at least a decade afterwards I figured I wouldn't earn any appreciation at all on it due to the huge supply, but today's it's worth roughly $2100, which is an APR of about 4.5%. Not great or as good as a mutual fund or in comic terms a similarly-popular but lower-supply key, but better than I expected at the time I bought it. For comparison's sake I also bought a CGC 7.5 X-Men #1 in 2000 for $3300, and the current market value of that is about $11K which is an APR of about 7%. Those APR calculations assume I sold today at the current GPA market value.

Trailer does look a little campy. I'm not all that excited. I'm confused--is this a remake, reboot, or just a new installment in the old series? It's got the same name as the original, but it looks nothing like it and more like a continuation of the series.

Mostly I'm thinking that Jon Bernthal's hair is WAAAAAY too poofy up top.

I'm neutral on Jar-Jar. When I was 12 in 1983 I HATED the Ewoks, and from that experience I just learned to stop hating, so I just ignored Jar-Jar in 1999 having learned from Episode VI that they're always going to be likely to stick a character in for little kids. What I dislike most is that dumb faux-Jamaican accent, but not nearly as much as the faux-Japanese-English accent on Viceroy Gunray. I think he was even pronouncing R's as L's and vice-versa.

I expect that both Kathleen Kennedy and Rian Johnson aren't looking at it quite that way. Both are definitely pleased with the critical response but would prefer to silence as many of the hardcore fans as possible. Having said that, they're acutely aware they will never fully achieve that having watched fans pummel Lucas relentlessly for a full decade of the prequels.

I like all three prequels, particularly Revenge of the Sith. Most people seemed bored by the focus on Palpatine's political maneuvering, but I enjoyed it. And I REALLY love Ian McDiarmid's acting as Palpatine. It was slightly melodramatic, but it mostly worked well for that character. My favorite two moments in ALL the films are still Darth Maul vs. Obi-Wan and Qui-Gonn and Yoda vs. Dooku. Third is Vader clearing out that hallway at the end of Rogue One.

The definition of bias is comparing Episode VII's box office to Episode VIII's box office knowing that Episode V was a dropoff from IV and II was a dropoff from I. Everyone knew it would be a dropoff, the question was how much. Turns out the international dropoff from VII to VIII adjusted for inflation was about the same as the other two trilogies.

Anyone seen what date the review embargo lifts?

Wow, how have I missed the word "doxing" until now? Never heard it before. I probably wouldn't have remembered it anyway since I make a conscious effort to never be anonymous online, but I'll probably remember now due to Stu doing it to RMA.

I really don't get why they stuck Negasonic Teenage Warhead in there again...she's OK but not anywhere near great or compelling. They've got a pool of over a hundred mutants to pull from, so I agree, pull someone else! The big question now is will Deadpool 3 fall under Kevin Feige's production authority now. I'm guessing it will, and if that's right it means we should see something quite different next time out, definitely not just another re-tread of Colossus and Negasonic as supports.

The irony of people eternally pointing that out in Internet forums is that global wikis are inherently a far better source of information than the forum itself could ever be. So to the extent that Wikipedia is nearsighted, any Internet forum is blind by comparison. It's also a misleading accusation when it comes to Wikipedia specifically. The vast majority of Wikipedia articles are sourced, so when you condemn Wikipedia when someone cites it, you're implicitly condemning the sources it references as well without any specifically stated reason for doing so. The logical fallacy referenced in this thread IS sourced, so if you'd like to condemn that source, have at it.

And a lot of minds REEEEEAALLLYYYY close to being changed. Just another dozen or so pages of masterdebation per day about TLJ should tip the fence-sitters over to one side or the other!

I can, however, see Kennedy shifting back to film production and away as head of LucasFilm only if another Kevin Feige came around. But Kevin Feiges are available in about the same supply that a LeBron James or Tom Brady is, i.e. they either don't or barely exist. The particular challenge with this is that the people with the creative chops to guide a sizable film universe typically want to write or direct and not run a company. DC hoped that would work out with Geoff Johns, but as is the case with most creatives he really didn't want to be an exec and returned to creative work. I was really hoping Johns would become the next Feige too, but that dream died when he stepped down as the head of DC Entertainment earlier this year. J.J. Abrams MIGHT be a Kennedy replacement, but as far as I can tell he doesn't want the job much more than Johns ultimately did. Abrams has never left screenwriting or directing for long before taking it up again. He's got his own production company in Bad Robot that he half-manages and half leaves to other people to manage so he can keep making movies. But just saying "fire Kathleen Kennedy" is ridiculous. That's like saying "fire Kevin Durant because he's no LeBron James!" OK, sure, you're right, but until you've got a LeBron James lined up, better not fire one of the best producers of all time, eh? You can't get rid of Kennedy without already having another star filmmaker lined up who you can put a name to.

Directors get all the hype, but directors appreciate good producers because they enable them to make films without having to worry about where everything's coming from and how it's going to get paid for. All of the media chatter about Kathleen Kennedy for the last year or so has been about as ridiculously idle as talk of firing Bill Bellichick of the New England Patriots, Bob Myers of the Golden State Warriors, Brian Cashman of the New York Yankees, or insert your favorte insanely successful sports General Manager here since that's the role that best parallels what producers are to films. I can only assume the people who are buying it are mostly unfamiliar with who she is. Kennedy is pretty much a ten-time All-Star and by leaps and bounds the most powerful and respected woman in Hollywood, and she's been that since not long after Spielberg helped boost her to where she's at in the late 70s and 80s. It'd take a LOT more than even five unprofitable Star Wars films for Disney to come anywhere near to firing her. Lucas specifically replaced himself with her in his role as the head of Lucasfilm right before he sold it to Disney as a signal to them that Kennedy is the person he trusts the most to direct his company without him leading it. Here she is with Lucas and her eventual husband Frank Marshall on Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom: And here she is with Spielberg on her first major producing success on E.T.:

That meme was directed at EVERYONE who has pointlessly ballooned this thread by 5+ pages over the last 24 hours in the thread including Gower. I've had Chuck Gower on relaxed mental ignore for years along with the other dozen or so forum members who insist on framing every discussion as a debate.

And won the box office anyway for 2017. This is like speculating that they're going to fire Bellichick for winning the Super Bowl but not by enough points.

They're not going to fire the most accomplished female producer in Hollywood history handpicked by Lucas to helm his company just because of Solo and the same handful of fringe fans that screamed throughout the aughts about the prequels. Her resume is almost unparalleled and reads like a highlight list of box office smashes. She's been in the top ten of the top box office list among all producers for three decades and is currently second behind Feige. Third on the all-time list is her husband Frank Marshall. Fans need to focus their ire somewhere else. Kennedy is untouchable. It's like idle speculation about how the Warriors will be trading Steph Curry or the Patriots will be trading Tom Brady because they didn't win the Finals or Super Bowl by enough points.

Has Disney attached any dates to any spin-offs? The only one I had seen info about was Boba Fett with Mangold being attached to write and direct it, but I had never heard any dates.

I mostly wonder what Kathleen Kennedy thinks about the fan criticism of Last Jedi versus the prequels since she was around to hear all of it. To my ears it all sounds like the same kind of hardcore fan complaining, but I'm sure she's got a much more refined view of it. My best guess would be that she's overall more pleased with Last Jedi than any of the prequels. Revenue adjusted for inflation is way up over Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith, the critical acclaim was MUCH higher for Last Jedi, and the Cinemascore polling for Last Jedi was better at A than it was for Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith with both at A-Minus. The only way the prequels outperformed Last Jedi was the domestic box office for Phantom Menace, but given the two decades of pent-up fan demand for new films, it's difficult to imagine Last Jedi ever making it to Phantom Menace levels regardless of quality.

The one truth to what he said I've heard is that the spinoff films are now all on hold, but yea, he stated it in a blanket way as if the main storyline films were also on hold. And the idea of them booting KK is a rabid fanboy dream unlikely to ever happen as long as the films are profitable.

So they're speculating Chameleon from the name associated with him of "Dmitri," and that's sound logic. The thing to remember is that they worked together right from Kraven's first appearance, and at some point the Chameleon was revealed to be the half-brother of Kraven the Hunter. So given that fact the Chameleon may appear in the film but the primary villain is far more likely to be Kraven. WOW do I hope that's true, because I LOVE Kraven.