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I don't understand the reference. Was it something about the slow motion?

Reported for walrus porn. Get a bra on that thing!

I don't know how I'd feel towards my sister if I almost killed her son so that he wouldn't become the next Vader. I can't rule out that I wouldn't voluntarily shut myself off from her. Given that situation, I'm also not sure what Luke should have done about Kylo. Let's say it just crosses his mind that Kylo might be the next Vader and he never pulls out his saber--what does he do then?

I've seen a LOT of Metacritic audience scores on various games and movies that were absurdly low. I don't know why it happens so often on that site, but it seems clear that hating something motivates you to post a review more than liking it.

I had no opinion about Leia in space. What laws of physics and/or human physiology did it violate? I know you can last about 10 to 20 seconds in space before you pass out, but I didn't time the scene to know if it broke that barrier.

Interesting and great to hear they have that department.

I didn't notice it myself, but I've heard others say the same thing. That, too, is indeterminate as to whether Rian was trying to say just anyone can use the Force if they set their mind to it, or just that this particular boy was born with a high midi-chlorian count. Does anyone feel like they completely understood why Luke thought the Jedi had to end with all of the talk about how the Force should be for everyone, not just the Jedi?

I had not heard that criticism before. In the films and (really) in the novels, some people are born with "force sensitivity". Some are "force attuned", but none of them are Jedi unless they train as such. Like young Anakin who could build robots and pod racers, or young Rey who could fly any ship, fix anything, and even some other force sensitive character who never knew what it was but they were "lucky". Because no one is more "common" than the beginnings Rey and Anakin started from. So I don't know how accurate the criticism you mention would be. I'm not sure of it, but I think he means that Rian Johnson's intent was to change the idea that only some people are born with Force sensitivity and that instead anyone is capable of controlling the Force. That's what Luke's speech to Rey about how the Force shouldn't be solely a thing used by the Jedi and the Sith seems to imply. I've seen a number of reviewers assume that Rian Johnson was trying to change that, but I'm not sure that was his intent. But I'm not clear on what Luke was trying to say, so I can't rule the idea out. Certainly until now the canon has always been midi-chlorians give people control of the Force, and not everyone has enough midi-chlorians to do it. Lucas thought about mentioning midi-chlorians that right from the start in Episode IV but didn't get it in until Phantom Menace.

It happens on every blockbuster film I see on opening weekend where the theater is sold out. It did happen at the end when I saw Last Jedi this past weekend, and there were cheers at the start when the trailers stopped the Lucasfilm logo went on screen.

This is the exact same adult criticism people used for Episodes I, II, and III except now you're pitting Kathleen Kennedy against Lucas. A decade and a half ago the hardcore fans were pitting Lucas-later versus Lucas-earlier. If we were kids we wouldn't be thinking any of that, we'd be focusing on the action, conflict, and special effects. I was 12 by the time Return of the Jedi and the Ewoks hit, and those teddy bears were beginning to seem dumb to the older kid I had become, but I rolled with it. I did the same with Jar Jar Binks at the age of 28, but I marveled at the people who endlessly complained about him not realizing that these have ALWAYS been children's movies.

The universal truth of Star Wars films is that adults who are unable to frame their storytelling perceptions within the limits of a 12-year old will never enjoy any Star Wars film. Kids love "The Last Jedi," just as almost everyone in the thread would have loved it if we were 12. And if you had seen "The Empire Strikes Back" when you were 35 as opposed to a kid, you wouldn't have been able to relate to the bad acting, the overly-simplistic moralizations throughout the story, the idea of a Yoda puppet being one of the main characters, or another few dozen bad aspects of the film one could list despite it being the best of the series. Having an English degree with about a half-dozen classes in film and media design makes me more than capable of seeing the flaws in all of these films, but I don't use that critical eye; I intentionally turn it off for these films because I know it's futile to use it. What's the point? I never would have loved the original Star Wars film had I had that critical eye when I was six years old. I have always had a strong moral sense, however, probably instilled on me by these very films as well as superhero comics, so I just leave that on and dive into the action, pacing, and special effects. And that makes it extremely simple to just love most of these films. Phantom Menace was definitely the worst film, but I still really, really liked it. I could EASILY list a hundred awful things about that film, but those just wash over me and I focus on Ian McDiarmid's splendid performance as Palpatine, Ray Park's scintillating acrobatics as Darth Maul, and the action, action, action. There's no pleasing adults who have lost their childhoods, want to re-gain it with something like a Star Wars movie, but aren't able to get back to that childhood. They're expecting the impossible, but they'll never stop complaining when they don't get it.

Methinks you're mixing up in your head The Last Jedi with one of the porno versions of Star Wars.

A defense of it I heard on Reddit is that if we wait until the end to off Snoke then it's a complete re-hash of the original series where Vader offs the Emperor at the end. Here Johnson gets Snoke out of the way earlier, which means we get to see Kylo Ren in control of the Empire First Order for the rest of this film and presumably the next one, something we never saw Vader do.

Both deaths were kinda lame, but the Emperor's was much lamer--possibly the lamest in the entire series, although my snap feeling about Luke's death is that it was even lamer, but I may decide differently later once I have time to figure out whatever reason it happened in the first place. And Vader's maiming by Obi-Wan was about fifty million times cooler than his eventual death.

Yes, and Disney is free to do the same with Snoke for that 30+ year period between Return of the Jedi and Force Awakens. It seems somewhat likely that the whole Snoke back-story along with Kylo being a part of the Knights of Ren is stuff being saved for a Kylo Ren spin-off back-story film. OK, so he let his guard down and let Vader grab him--that's TOTALLY understandable that he wasn't sure Vader would turn on him in that instant. What about alllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll the way down that shaft? He was like "who wha Luke Luke Luke what what what" and couldn't manage any of the Force acrobatics he demonstrated in the prequels? And what's with Vader dying so easily? I get that maybe he's extra-vulnerable to Force lightning due to the electronics in his life-support suit, but he has no backup suit? When that scene was playing out with Luke I thought he'd say "get me to my chambers so I can get a new suit," but nope, look, he's dead, HUH, how'd that happen?

Lucas killed the Emperor with so little back-story that we didn't even know his name. We knew far more about Snoke than Palpatine circa Return of the Jedi.

You mean like THIS easily? In other words, I'd describe his death as about ten times more satisfying than that of the Emperor, Vader, or Luke. So suddenly the Emperor has lost his ability to move himself around with the Force and Vader dies after a half-second of stray Force lightning?

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She showed so much power for a newbie in Force Awakens and this film that such an idea would be the only real way to explain it.

Googling it I see some people saying this, others saying that Jedi CAN use it, but their creed is to use the Force for defense only, so they choose not to project lightning.

Does anyone know why they've never shown a Jedi using Force lightning? Yoda only ever deflected or absorbed it, he didn't use it offensively.

If you're throwing Sith in there as you did with Vader, then the order is: Yoda Sidious Vader Mace Windu Obi-Wan Luke But it's not really a fair comparison because Lucas added Force abilities as the films progressed, so he gave Yoda and Sidious force powers in Episode VI and the prequels that we never saw Luke even use, particularly Force lightning. We have no idea if Luke ever developed the ability to project Force lightning or deflect it after Sidious lit him up with it in Episode VI. You'd have to insert Kylo Ren and Snoke pretty high on that list, but again, not a fair comparison because every film keeps expanding the powers, so the latest film tends to have the most powerful version of a Force user we've ever seen to date.

Yoda and Anakin were more powerful as well. I assumed he was already counting Yoda as first most powerful ahead of Luke and that he was excluding Anakin because he became a Sith.

Obi-Wan in his prime would have wiped the floor with Luke...just like he did with his dad.

If you haven't heard the story behind the porgs, Rian Johnson added them because Skellig Island that the film was shot in is covered in them and it was impossible to get them out of his shots, so instead of digitally editing them out he decided to digitally replace them with similarly-cute critters but ones that weren't from Earth. https://www.thewrap.com/porgs-in-star-wars-the-last-jedi-look-like-puffins-for-a-very-good-reason/