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On 3/24/2024 at 9:34 AM, Silver Surfer said:

Hyping up record sales seems to be a standard playback by most dealers. Gets them more exposure and clientele,  pumps up prices. How about the Promise market, where did all those aggressive under bidders go? (Eye roll) 

9.8 TOS is not hype...its for real....amazing book along with DD1

3d printed copies are clearly less valuable than 1/2....and that should be NOTED on the label....It is a REPRINT! Buyer Beware!

On 3/22/2024 at 3:47 PM, Aman619 said:

I dunno.  first question:  why are the dimensions of the book taller than the comics they reprint?  there's 2-3" of dead WHITE SPACE ON EACH PAGE.  Is this part of a series of books that started with the taller dimension Modern comics reprints, so these are forced to live on pages that are too tall for the squarer dimensions 50-60s pages?  lame

Also, not much in the way of greatness in these stories.  A collector would be better off getting reading copies of these issues. Yeah it would cost a lot more, but it's not as if these PCs will increase in value.  They go down in time.  Like all the HC we have all bought al these years cause they are so cool when new..  just IMO.

OK I looked at a different set and yes, the HC page size was designed for newer taller comics which fit well on the pages.  SO they preferred that each book line up on shelves better than how the stories themselves read on page.  clever.

 

I think if you keep this year...1958 in context and the new editor of Action/Superman run which I was unaware  and where this volume begings then  the stories are fantastic. This is over 3 years before FF1.....but as you get deeper into the years say 1959/60 the Sci-Fi elements really stand out. So I do disagree with you and the price in this format is unbeatable at over 800 pages with the new introduction.  A big value for $67.

On 3/18/2024 at 4:45 PM, Kromak said:

Not a fan of Omnibus or contemporary (computer reconstructed) reprints. But definitely a big fan of Silver Age Super-Man

If someone has time to take a few good quality scans or photos of the inner pages, as to provide a good idea of the colors/line work quality, I would deeply appreciate.

There is a full seven minute plus  video review on youtube...."SUPERMAN the silver age omnibus vol 1 First Look"....it just came out.....FANTASTIC 

If anyone can please link this...thanks

On 3/18/2024 at 1:00 PM, jeffreyk said:

I received mine today from in-stock trades.  Only 50 there and free shipping.   I love omnibus books!  I am currently finishing up reading my Devils Reign Omnibus.  It's also a good read.

Excellent...please let us know what your review after you get to it!

Finally...its here and wow the price on Amazon is only $67 bucks. Over 800 Pages and the printing and reproduction is fantastic. The bang for the buck....just wow. I hope, I demand a second volume. They just do not make them like they used to. I am over halfway  done  in on this omnibus and its just amazing for the time, the craft and the excellent writing that was in that time period. When I read this, I try to place myself back in time..to when you would go to the newsstand and buy these amazing treasures.

 This was an important step in the sliver age....like a snapshot in time. Let me know your opinions on this?

My highest recommendation as a 50 plus year collector.

Great issue!...12 cents...just wow

On 3/9/2024 at 12:50 PM, Cat-Man_America said:

Each pedigree collection has pluses and minuses. IMO, Church is the best and among the most perfect examples of a discovered collection.  Church has all of the checked boxes, ...depth of numbers, key appearances, exceptional condition (covers and PQ), ideal preservation/storage conditions (which contributes to future longevity), easily recognizable albeit unobtrusive pedigree/distribution date markings, great background story that's fully verifiable, tight 3rd party grading, etc.

So, rhetorically speaking, where does the Promise Collection fall along the pedigree continuum? With no personal bias whatsoever, my personal assessment is it's way down the list. Granted, the Promise Collection has the numbers, but not a lot of key first appearances; while the overall condition of books as graded is high there's been debate over whether the assigned grades actually meet expectations, the question of storage is iffier, anecdotal and unverifiable, identifier markings vary, original owner story sounds almost too good to be true (and remains questionable as parts of it are unsubstantiated), and so on. This doesn't make the collection any less desirable, but it does provide significant caveats about the hype that resulted in fizzling skyrocket market values. 

Those of us who own Promise Collection books should not see this as a denouncement of the pedigree, but rather see it as a cautionary about "fever-bidding" and the predictable feeding frenzy over newly anointed pedigree collections parsed out into a hungry marketplace via a series of carefully orchestrated auctions under a cloud of hyperbole, mystique and muddled facts. That's my two cents; the caffeine influencer was included at no extra charge! 

I think it is unfair to compare the Promise collection on any type of judgement with Church or any other Pedigree which has had 20...30 or 50 years to amass a following after proper distribution among collectors and given that time elapsed long  period in which  major GA market appreciation took place . What I am saying is give the "Promise" collection a  chance and  "Leave them alone" in the immoral words of "Chris Crocker" on Britney Spears.

 When I purchased from Chuck at the SDCC some of the Church issues in the 70's way over guide...If I had attempted to sell them within one year or two....I would be getting the similar results as see here. You are "Rushing to Judgement" way before the real time to make a real decision using proper hindsight.

Got back  TO THE 70'S  and you would probably get worse results then seeing here a couple of years after purchase under this ever sale  of every book microscope . Lets make a intelligent and proper decision when the real time to reflect is right. I am sticking by my prediction and advise...They will in the long run prove to be a great purchase as long you hold for the proper amount of time.....and as I said the Promise book are a great LONG term hold.

 LEAVE THE PROMISE COLLECTION ALONE!!!!!!!

On 2/29/2024 at 11:30 AM, Latverian Tourism Board said:

No need to stress it, imo. If you approach heritage, they will work that all out with you. Which issues should be pressed and graded, which should only be graded, and which ones will be best sold raw. With a collection that size, you should ask them to give you a break on commission. You should get at least 10% (15% is their standard), I would guess. Also, all fees come out of final sales. Good luck with the sales!

second that!

I agree great issue!!!

Ed knew his stuff...RIP

Weird Science is the better of two.

do we have an actual release date for the SC-FI issue?

 still waiting for delivery on two books....they must of been slammed for orders

Next great issue  Fury #13.......

On 2/13/2024 at 10:27 AM, BLUECHIPCOLLECTIBLES said:

I do not have direct knowledge of Disney's work methods but I've spoken with people who did and I do have direct knowledge of showrunning and Stan's work methods and skills.  No analogies are perfect but the Disney and showrunning comparisons do fit on many, if not all, levels. The efforts to overcompensate re Kirby don't change that.

Stan was a promoter....plain and simple...as far as imput ...story etc please read Sgt Fury 1-7 and tell me Stan had really anything to do with that....that is Jack all the way

70% of the original is a fair estimate

On 2/8/2024 at 9:34 PM, BLUECHIPCOLLECTIBLES said:

"The truth comes out" sounds like this was some newly found audio recording of Stan twirling his moustache as he confided this to some co-conspirator.  This is an interview he gave freely in 1990.  He knew he was being interviewed. Just as he knew he was being interviewed when he said things much like this in years before, dating back to the mid-60s, when he bragged on his artists and even downplayed his input at times, just as he sometimes overstated it.  A creative team/bullpen/writers room/whathaveyou is almost never binary -- with one doing either everything or nothing. But it seems like people who have never toiled in such environments have immense difficulty grasping that.  Don't they at least recall how it was doing creative projects in school or doing live action role play (just as old schoolers played "cops and robbers"), coming up with stories in b.s. sessions?  Ideas bounce around and feed off each other and if you're lucky the result of several minds gives you more than the sum of its parts.  

As the editor, Stan was basically the Walt Disney of Marvel, or like a TV "showrunner" today who happens to have dozens of shows on the air.  Sometimes a showrunner will haven written virtually every line of an episode despite some other person's name being on the title page, and sometimes the showrunner will just be there for the first few minutes of pitching and not feel a need to rewrite what the episodic writer hands in.  Stan's run as the editor of Marvel couldn't possibly have been as good as it was if he had not been a gifted writer, and the fact that he grew lazy at times doesn't change that.  Nor does it change that because he veered between taking too little and too much credit.  There is no great hidden truth about how Marvel's 1960s run came about.  Stan was an extremely talented guy who oversaw a bunch of extremely talented people, and as time went along and the stuff they made became more successful, everybody's memories got more and more skewed and they all remember their part in the collaboration as being bigger than it was.  

Stan is no "Walt Disney"...cant come close....showrunner does not cut it either...its make up as much credit possible on the marvel with little or no imput. As a organizer I will give him that, if but no Jack or Steve doing kick as super hero comics in the early 60's no marvel universe. FF and Spiderman carried the day for Marvel despite Disney Duck out selling them 3-1.

Anyone get anything yet....pics pls

great choice...welcome

On 2/8/2024 at 7:25 AM, Paul © ® ⚽️💙™ said:

Pulps have been crying out to be graded for years.

It's a welcome manoeuvre.

One has to feel so sorry for CGC, being so skint they finally reluctantly had to acquiesce,  

 

100% AGREE...prices are gonna be insane 3-5 years from now....a lot of people do not have this info.....make you moves

On 2/7/2024 at 9:27 AM, aardvark88 said:

Seems like Stan Lee gave his artists a 1 or 2 sentence synopsis of the plot for next month's Marvel issue:

the truth comes out...after looking at these great threads , The one key lesson I have learned is that no writer is equal...FF and SM consistently better, and Giant man...even Iron Man...weaker...which means many different writers. Here is a major clue..look at SGT Fury early issues with Kirby art and story...these were great stuff...in a way very cinematic ... a flavor...then as you on....not as great, except for issue 13...opps that is Kirby too......interesting how kirby did final death page I think it was in an issue 17...he did one interior page...and of course the cover...so with the cover he might of had some type of plot imput....it would be interesting to break that down... But if Jack was doing the plots then that could be why he was able to draw a page or two on that issue.

great news...here go pulp prices....buy NOW!!!!! before the wave

On 2/2/2024 at 7:01 AM, woowoo said:

I like this better  And click the link and see real nice white pages.

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I will second that