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I read somewhere that they asked for an additional credit extension for upfront for advanced partial payments and indicated that they got it and are still in the market to make advances on consignments. So, I assume it Ha and Richards consignment is which triggered that.

It is stories like this that remind me how great board members can really be. There should be some great material coming to HA in the future, so save your bucks. Richard has some of the best stuff in the business, especially high grade GA...I wonder what is coming up? any ideas out there?

Good catch

I thought about bidding on that piece and did some research as When Worlds Collide is on my SF movies of all time. Both main cast members nailed it, and so did Joyces dad. I ran my copy of that movie back and compared it to the painting that was on the screen. It did not match color wise nor content. It appears to be a partial drawing of that painting or a prelim, with another part left out. BUT, the original painting according to my research was burned up in a fire from the producers house George Pal. SO, this is the last remaining and surviving work of art on that image. In looking at the current price at $2500 even though it is small 8x10 it is HISTORY.

I agree the Virgil Finley Weird tales cover is a winner all the way and my #6 Best Buy. I wish you can have seen that Cat..it was on a "grail wall" of 5 H.J. Wards including the greatest the "evil flame" and it stood out. When I back a 2d time on Desert Madness..it still stood out...I thought just because it was new, that is why I liked it so much. Pinup art is an acquired taste, and that market is more unstable than the Pulp art market by a mile. It is a real gamble when you buy a pin up piece and I have always used the the philosophy that you have to assume you will never get you money out and that it is a total loss, before any purchase of a pin up piece.

It takes a community of great thinkers old and new and people that want to "risk" being on the boards to get anywhere this board and this thread. I cannot tell you about how many people read this, but have never been on the boards. I know of 3 Whale collectors with over 30 years of comic book collecting who refuse to get engaged in "combat". They read, they listen, some everyday, but they remain in the shadows. If you are reading this and you have not yet "hit" the boards up, please feel free to start right now, on this thread. We need you and your experience and opinion no matter how different or controversial. Your comments will be respected but not necessary agree with. In serious times, financially and emotionally for all, I think the board here clearly has taken it way up a level or two.We seem to be more together than ever today as a community . It might get back to the old days of "hazing" new posting members to see who they are, and what they are made of after this is over and so be it. But I am very hopeful that compassion will overcome that primal instinct of man and we will make this a more friendlier place, more open place with respect for everyone. We need everybody's voice here...they are many things that we do not know, that others do, and we need that shared on this board and in this community to help overcome one of the great struggles of our lifetime. Thank you for you kind thoughts "Alex Gross" .

We do not know if this sale is by a flipper, in fact it could be someone who has lost their job,or whose family members are infected with the virus. Crowzilla you are guessing here. I would say that a non superhero purchase prior to 1938 and Platinum is not likely a flipper and I would grant you Detective #1 would be the most likely candidate here for purchase by flipper and not #2 or #3 or etc.. It is more likely somebody who buys superhero books might be a better choice to guess to call a flipper.. I would agree with you the quick sale turn around is a red flag but probably not for this book. As to your comment on" pumping it up"...Sell your copy of this book in above 6.5 unrestored with only 3 higher graded copies and try it get back..good luck. Of course I considered price a factor in calling the board attention to one of the better buys of the auction, and I was well aware that the prior sale of this book was on November 24, 2019 for $14,400.00 plus tax, plus shipping. The current bid price is $5500 and that is a steal..period and I stand by that , so is 6k, 6.5K, and 7K.

OK..tri-color..typo..I was laughing too hard. or spell check, But the SDCC has become a cash register and it costs money to open a new museum, fund all staff etc etc... there is a pressure there to look for the $ not care about the people who started it all.

LOL...yea...yea

I do not think its gonna be a total crash and burn...just different stokes for different folks as comic books will be slowly phased out. Let us say 200K want tickets and they sell 125K a year, even if 75K don't want them any more next year, they still sell out. It is gonna take more than 5 years for a total crash or burn or even decline in ticket sales to really be noticeable. .One thing that has also gone up is ticket prices as well. If I was the head of SDCC, I would give them away to get people back in, they will first test the waters, but Try Color I agree with you that at least for the next couple years 2021 and 2022 we will see a SMALLER SDCC and certainly less small time comic book dealers even if they gave the tables away free in attendance , just because of the cost involved in traveling, hotels,,etc and basic overhead.Terry's Con however I agree will see growth both in space and attendance. SDCC would be smart and run separate conventions for comic related material only and all the other stuff at another time.

My top 5 on the illustration art auction illustration art has taken a price beating over the last few years, some good and some bad but it is was making minor comeback. We will see if this virus make prices hit a brick wall ,Here are top 5 and reasons why they are in my book. 1-H.J Ward: Desert Madness Spicy pulp cover: I have seen this multiple times in real life. No photo or video can capture how great this painting is. In my many years of collecting pantings, some photograph better, some look exactly the same and same are in real life 10x better. This one is 10x better in real life. That is a shame for the consigner here as a free-auction inspection or day of the sale inspection, somebody would agree with me. I was stunned when I saw it in real life and there were a lot more expensive paintings next to it...it stood out. Timing is everything in life, this is gonna be very bad timing for the seller here. In 2014, the seller paid $43,750.00. I think here he is gonna be lucky to get away with 50% loss. It is currently at $15,000.00 and that is a STEAL. 2-Enoch Bolles: Breezy Stories cover August 1935...even in a down market or a recovering market this piece is worth a solid 35K, it big-27-22 and she is looking right at you..Winner all the way..currently no takes at all, with a $15,000 min bid, its back cover of the catalog if you have one...if you get a chance, sign in and look at those prior sales from 80K-35K and this is a lot better than a lot of those. under 20K, its a miracle and take it. 3-Edmund F. Ward Eyes of Love..classic 1921 Pictorial Review cover...you don't have to spend 10K and get a great painting or magazine cover for the 1920's and it very big 34.5 by 28...its at a very low price of $1,050.00 4- Tom Lovell The corpse was beautiful...the use of color is fantastic and there are a few bidders who agree with me. It's at $6,250 and anything under 10K is a steal. It sold in 2009 for $13,145.00 5-Peter Driben Sweet and Sultry...Pin up art prices have taken a beating, but this piece is a "classic" it is currently at $2600 and anything under 5K is a steal...this sold in 2008 for $11,352, I think today its work at least ten but time are tough...5250 Plus BP=Winner

Priced right, they are solid GA books 2/4 and another book that is very rare and also one more hidden gem...Jumbo 7 its VG...great stuff, is gonna get lost on internet day in the back of the catalog..one of 5 that exist, Overtreet values it at $1,476 and that is a good deal, right now its $200...I told you, its gonna get lost.

"Is SDCC sustainable as the con that does it bigger and better" Nothing lasts forever. SDCC and possible other major comic events will be impacted for the next 2 and 3 years especially if the virus comes in waves and we have no cure or that cure will take time to produce for billions of people. I, do not believe in that this is a true comic book convention anymore. In reality its a circus event with comic books each and every year getting pushed down the priority list. What about the early dealer supporters who were treated dirt, moved all over the place, and treated as if they were unwanted. That is what SDCC has become. We in the comic book world, got lost, used, and then abused for the sake of bigger profits. To answer your question is SDCC sustainable as a true comic book convention..NO...as a media advertising tool...yes. So the convention will continue and we will slowly be forgotten in the crunch. The reason why this will be the biggest is that is closest in location to Hollywood.Do not forget that the two major comic book companies are owned by Hollywood and based there. If you judge by attendance, it will the biggest, but the real comic book collectors I think they are on the decline .What about the original people who attended when comic conventions were considered a joke, and how about those dealers who took a chance in the early days and drove hundreds of miles year after to suffer price table increases based upon Hollywood demand for more and more space. A revolution is coming, in the true comic books smaller shows Like Terry's here in La that are gonna be big hits and bigger as time gets on. Real collectors will get the message. We will not be forgotten, numbered, indexed..as Prisoner so effectively stated in the classic TV series. Agree or disagree any other opinions would great here looking into an uncertain future for one and all. "Are Retailers in the economic downturn going to continue to pay the pricing that some of these con demands" Some of those retailers are gonna lose their business, lose their shirts, and take years to recover. They will never be business let alone attend any comic book convention. Survival is going to take priority such as paying their rent. SDCC and NYCC should provide LOYAL comic book dealers with a adjusted price rate vs Disney/Marvel media companies etc and I mean a serious discount. For comic book dealers with 20 or more years in attendance WAVIE the table fees. Now with no SDCC for two years...and they need the money or will want a lot of money to make up for losses.. Here is my question to you board members: What do you think is gonna win out..Greed or Compassion? Will SDCC go for the $ or the long run and remember its a comic con. "Pre-Feb 2020, there were companies that were already drifting away from devoting as much time and resources as they have in previous years..I see the trend continuing. " If want evidence of this , go to mile high comics comic con videos of a few years ago, There was a Great interview by Chuck of Sal (SF SAL) which nailed that issue. It has slowly evolved to be against the originators. The trend is to go where money is, SDCC is opening a new museum and that is gonna cost a lot of money and time, and as prices and costs rise..Dealers cannot only justify a certain amount of loss, for the possibly of gain news customers. I see the trend continuing but if any SDCC/NYCC dealers can chime in, their opinion would be made with first hand knowledge of the $ and time and energy involved and increasing costs that be great. I see these dealers still going to shows however and possibly selling items out of their hotel rooms,. The future looks bright for lower tier shows or comic book dealers friendly shows where the serious buyers will attend and not a lucky lottery ticket SDCC and others. Any board member run or help run a convention would have actual data...opinions out there? You are not wrong, you are 100% spot on. These are real issues and real people and real collectors we are talking about.

MY TOP PICKS 1-Detective Dan #48 The best item in the entire auction by a mile> Do not let the #48 throw you. One of the most historically important comic books of all time period. Add that it is extremely rare and Read thru the description and I want to let you know there is more facts than that, its a overview. Overstreet says $4000..Ha put it on a Sat auction in the back of the internet sales only...the perfect storm...that is why it is only at $800 or the steal of century. 2-Detective #2 6.5 this book is not gonna get lost, you are gonna have to pay, a keeper for life if you win, but the condition is among the top 5..a rare book but even rarer above 5.0. 3-Marvel Mystery #48 9.6. to win you are really gonna have to pay, colors are amazing for 1943 book...winner all the way. 4- T-Man #34 Hitler Cover, highest graded copy..never seen it before a lot of upside on this book. 5- Master comics 2 and 3. If CGC graded these the values would take off. For the large format they look great condition wise...if they go cheap..consider them and I like #2 better than #3

2021 here we come

I would have to change the order somewhat with 9 years hindsight. ASM #1 is a bit of a disappointment. Bat #1 is much better, and i would rank it above Cap 1 one in fourth place in sort of a tie with Marvel 1. Cap 1 was a great buy 9 years ago. If fact it is still a great buy today, I think there is room for price growth here. The Joker has become the top villain winning TWO Academy awards for his performance by great actors, and I also like Jack Nicholson ground breaking performance as well. Batman #1 is a winner and here to stay. The Mickey Mouse book was Christmas giveaway which was listed with no price in the guide for couple of years before some copies turned up. It never hit the prices level I was hoping for.

WOW SDCC complete cancellation no reset. 2021 here we come

Thank you but you have understand that i lived and breathed comic books hours upon hours each day, I would read and reread the Overstreet price guide until it was a rag...those were the days. No internet, no cable, snail mail...just pure GA

Did I see the copy before I bought it..NO. Here is why, he told me he bought auction 1 for 1500, while we were awaiting shipment we talked and talked and he wanted 2k,,,I got him down...I was a good at doing deals and one of my conditions was that we open the package TOGETHER after I paid him with a cashiers check. There was not way I was gonna let him change his mind. He was really into cap 1 at the time and was going to pay 1000 for it or 1200 and I told him that would reduce the cost of the book. If anybody ever gets there hands on action 1..they are not gonna sell it for 300 bucks or 301.26 profit even in 1973 We opened it together and rest is history.

We both lived in Sacramento and were best friends. So no postage

Great question. We agree on a price $1800.00 He had purchased it from Bruce for $1500. At time time that is triple price guide, and I did not care. But I mad as hell and not gonna take it any more about this disrespect from not only my family, friends and especially my grandparents who kept saying...you say this comic book is worth $$..who in their right mind would pay that. I told Theo, I was gonna gonna go public with my sale. I told him I am adding $1.26 to make the purchase seem more legitimate in this unbelieving world. It worked out...

Direct collector and collector sale.

I will have my kid help me...just a little

The prices were off, but the advice was spot on, hold do not sell on any of those books and it paid off big time.

Re SAC..Beer's bookstore was heaven to me. ESPECIALLY 1966..every Sat it was an adventure beyond words. I did some grade,junior, HS and ARC, McGeorge...great place to grow up...it different now...wow what a place. I will not take the 90% number in taking a chance that I would be unable replace what was sold. I want want 100% and that is not gonna happen. I will not risk it. I disagree with the 2/3 year downturn and year 5 recovery. Things are gonna happen quicker than that..a lot quicker, we could hit where we were within 2+ years not 5. I agree that most investor's and I would add flippers will sell within the next 18 months. I disagree with a blanket $ number, you have to look at the book, its rarity, its condition, not the number. I agree that selling certain GA/SA makes sense, not dumping your entire collection, it seems a bit panicky. I like the idea about changing the way you trading GA during this crisis. People will need cash, and to get that they make take your lesser material with that..great suggestion. I would call it a partial trade up. I would advise every Ga/SA collector to carefully, while we have time on our hands to reevaluate your own collection and either sell,buy or trade up on the weak spots. I disagree with his approach that ALL ungraded, taped etc books should be sold, you might have a very difficult book to obtain no matter what the condition is. I do agree that rusty staples is a issue with me too. I believe you look the total picture, what the book means to you, the condition, how hard was it to obtain, and what impact it will have on your GA/SA collection overall.