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The Daily Comic Book Panel Thread Here's today's panel. Identify the issue if you can. I'll be opening new panels and giving clues if no one gets it.

"Love Anna" is Betty-Bates on the Boards. She has the distinction of winning the last two CGC March Madness Tournaments: I didn't know that, but it doesn't surprise me. She has an excellent reputation on Facebook.

COMIC BOOK COLLECTING This is interesting. According to 'Love Anna,' the AF15 used on the show American Pickers that was estimated to be worth $50K is actually restored, and this was never mentioned by the 'expert' who was brought in on the show. Color me shocked (if true). Here's an article about the July, 2017 show. $50,000 Amazing Fantasy #15, Spider-Man’s debut comic, features on American Pickers

The Official Debate Overflow Thread

He was born in Manila, so I assume that's his nickname.

Just Art Jimbo Salgado - Civil War

Yes. Exactly. By the way, a few months ago I found the newspaper article for which the photo was taken. It's a wealth of information regarding the explosion of prices and fan interest back in 1965, along with some demographics. The owner of the book store, Burt Blum talks about how comics really took off for him in 1962 when collectors started asking him to find comic books for them. The article states that this book store is now the nation's largest comic book center for collectors. A really interesting read. Vintage Comic Book & Convention Photos

What is the difference between the "broad" definition, and the so-called "narrow" definition...? A desire to preserve the items, which is what, far from "putting people into buckets" is what separates a collector from every type of accumulator. The kid in your 70s pictures demonstrates very little desire to preserve his comics...he's got his foot on some of them. (Interesting early example of the 5 toed shoe, though.) You are quoting me out of context with the post I was replying. And I believe I explained all this PAL. Those five-toed shoes and socks are really weird. Reminds me of the split-toed boots some of the Japanese construction workers use to this day (Jika-tabi).

I agree with the broad definition. I'm not sure anyone can qualify what a 'serious collector' is - the definition of which is not only nebulous, but also seems elitist and exclusionary to me. One thing to consider is that attitudes have changed, and what constituted what some would call a 'serious collector' in the past may not bear much resemblance to today. The hobby has not always been as hyper-focused on condition and preservation as it is now. Some examples to show you what I mean: 1) This is from 1965. You'll notice the way the books are being handled, the way they are stacked, and there's not a backing board in sight. 2) I don't know the exact date, but it's early 70s. This kid is clearly a collector and an avid fan. Notice how he's holding the comics, and how the books are stacked and thrown about in his room in the first photo. In the second, notice how he is holding the Action Comics #1 and Superman #1 which he just purchased at a convention (they're not even in bags). I don't think you can put people into buckets and label them. A comic book collector is simply "one who collects comic books." How they do it, is up to them. I don't know what a 'serious collector' is...the kid above looks pretty serious about his collection to me.

Legendary Comics Artist Bill Sienkiewicz Pens Scorching Rebuke of “Comicsgate” “Comicsgate,” if you’ve been fortunate enough to avoid it until now, is a comics-focused offshoot of Gamergate. Much of its inception can be traced back to the “milkshake selfie” and subsequent harassment of Marvel editor Heather Antos and other female staffers for daring to take a photograph together. But the root of the “movement” is a general decrying of “SJWs” and diversity in comics, and that’s been happening for a much longer period of time. As Inverse explained in February, Comicsgaters are obsessed and angered by the participation of women and people of color in the comics industry, and the growing diversity of representation. You can read Inverse’s history of how Comicsgate began and spread like a disease here. The primary thing that you need to know to understand what’s going on: Comicsgate … seems to just want less diversity, both in characters and creators, in an attempt to save comics and keep the medium white, male, and familiar. That’s it. A new chapter in this ugly saga was opened this week after Comicsgaters made a video making their case for why the late DC comics artist Darwyn Cooke, who died in 2016, “would have been #ComicsGate.” Cooke’s widow, Marsha Cooke, took offense to this suggestion, responding to a tweet about the video: “Hi guys, this is Darwyn’s wife and I can guarantee he thought you comics gate insufficiently_thoughtful_persons were a bunch of crybaby losers ruining comics. because you are.” https://twitter.com/RosieMarx/status/1032016006552543234 Needless to say, this feedback was not well-received by said crybabies. Some Comicsgaters comicsgate’d, sending harassment to the widow of a man they professed to adore. The incident with Cooke prompted prominent names in comics to speak out against the Comicsgate ethos and the harassment it engenders. Taking a particularly scorched-earth stance was Eisner-winning artist Bill Sienkiewicz. Sienkiewicz has been in the industry since he was 19 years old and is revered for his innovative style and his work on titles like Sandman: Endless Nights, New Mutants, Daredevil, Elektra: Assassin, Batman, and many, many, many, many more. “To Comicsgaters – but also: to general friends and colleagues in arms. Profuse profanity to follow. Be advised,” Sienkiewicz wrote in a Facebook post that was cross-posted to Twitter. Which should advise you if profuse profanity (for a good cause) offends you. Sienkiewicz’s post reads: It’s vital that people with power in the industry like Sienkiewicz take a strong stance on issues of harassment that are disproportionately shouldered by the targets of that harassment, namely women, people of color, queer people, disabled people, and other marginalized groups. Sienkiewicz’s Twitter and Facebook reply fields are full-up with thousands of people thankful for what he said. It should not be left to the groups who are being attacked to fight battles they did not ask for alone and unaided. Beyond Sienkiewicz’s calling-out of the bullying behavior that he despises, it’s equally crucial to hear him say that “Creators are family; every voice is unique and necessary,” and that “Comics isn’t a boys club.” These are the sort of messages that need to be repeated over and over again until they drown out the hateful hordes. https://twitter.com/sinKEVitch/status/1032730857319084033

Judge Issues "Comic-Con" Injunction August 24, 2018 7:57am PT by Eriq Gardner In what may be the beginning of the end of the road for any self-described "Comic-Con" that doesn't take place in San Diego, a California federal judge has issued an injunction in one of the biggest trademark cases in the entertainment industry in years. San Diego Comic Convention was the plaintiff taking on Dan Farr and Bryan Brandenburg, who ran the Salt Lake Comic Con. At a trial held last winter, San Diego prevailed on its contention that it held valid rights and that Salt Lake was infringing its trademarks. The jury didn't find willfulness, however, and only punished Salt Lake to the tune of $20,000 in corrective advertising. Salt Lake asked U.S. District Court Judge Anthony Battaglia to put aside the ruling and order a new trial. Instead, in a series of orders issued late Thursday, Battaglia has not only upheld the jury's verdict and issued an injunction, but ordered the defendants to pay almost $4 million in attorneys' fees and costs. The decision comes just a week before the Salt Lake convention was about to get underway. Thanks to this court case, it's already been rebranded the FanX Salt Lake Comic Convention. Battaglia, in his order on an injunction, has enjoined Salt Lake from "Comic Con" and "Comic-Con" and any phonetic equivalents (i.e. ComiKon). Additionally, Farr and Brandenburg can't operate any social media site that incorporates the trademark, nor can they even advertise how the festival they run was "formerly known as Salt Lake Comic Con." On the other hand, the judge rules it would go too far to prevent the phrase "comic convention" and won't require defendants to destroy all of their already-made merchandise and marketing materials bearing the banned phrases. It's important to note that San Diego has sued or asserted claims against others who operated "Comic-Cons" around the nation — and most of those cases were put on hold for this one. San Diego vs. Salt Lake was a test case. San Diego, the plaintiff, pushed for a new trial too because it was unhappy with the jury's finding of non-willfulness and wanted Salt Lake to disgorge profits. The judge doesn't think that's in order by pointing to evidence that included Brandenburg thinking it was ok to use "Comic Con" as others were doing it. Nevertheless, San Diego has scored a huge coup in the order granting much of its attorneys' fee costs. Battaglia concludes this is an "exceptional" case compared to run-of-the-mill trademark cases, and slams the defendants for making "repeated, re-argued, and recycled arguments" from having license to pushing a contention that "Comic Con" had become generic to framing the case both inside and outside the courtroom as San Diego's fraud on the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office. "Ultimately, resembling a broken record, DFP has repetitively restated and rehashed several contentions that they were unable to advance successfully prior to trial," writes the judge. "This type of cyclical motion practice is objectively unreasonable and has justified attorneys’ fees under the Lanham Act." San Diego wanted about $5 million in attorney's fees and it will end up with 80 percent of the request. While certainly a victory for San Diego, the attorney fee award could make an appeal more likely.

Comic Book Related Pic & Animation Storage

I don't know. I don't eat fast food. But I think those toys are pretty cool.

These were graded on 8/3 and 8/2. Certification Information Certification #: 1609449001 Title: Flash Issue: 323 Issue Date: 7/83 Issue Year: 1983 Publisher: D.C. Comics Grade: 7.0 Page Quality: WHITE Grade Date: 08/03/2018 Category: Signature Art Comments: Cary Bates & Nicola Cuti stories Infantino, Patton & Giffen art Infantino & Rodriguez cover Key Comments: Reverse Flash appearance. Creeper backup story. Signatures: SIGNED BY GRANT GUSTIN ON 6/23/18 Certification Information Certification #: 1278363004 Title: Amazing Spider-Man Issue: 316 Issue Date: 6/89 Issue Year: 1989 Publisher: Marvel Comics Grade: 9.4 Total Graded At: 388 Page Quality: WHITE Grade Date: 08/02/2018 Category: Modern Art Comments: David Michelinie story Todd McFarlane cover & art Key Comments: Venom & Black Cat appearance.

McDonald's has these right now...

US Zone Stamps CGC Comics Fans

Okay...how'd you do it?

Architecture & Design

This is cool. I like glow-in-the-dark posters. "Dr. Strange" by Matt Fergsuon!

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Batman 50 Variants Edit: Anyone know how to reduce the size of social media videos when embedding here?

Thanks a million, Ditch. I visited the Marvel offices in 1980 - May - and I have terrific memories of the visit, but little else. This floor plan (and associated personnel) marries very well with my aged recollections. I vividly recall chatting with a couple of guys who were proofreading comics, obviously prior to printing. My escort volunteered that "this is where the proofreading is done" and one of the lads cheerfully offered "and a whole lot of critiquing". Great memories. That would have been awesome to see. Did you get to see any artists?