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I'm going to have a Fantastic Four LOT Auction tonight probably posted during the football game. Mostly Bronze age, with some Silver and Some modern. It will be in the GA/SA/BA sales section. It will be all RAW, I think. Grades are pretty mixed, no repeats. But a great starter set for someone looking to dig into some great FF stories. Thanks. Stop on by.

Actually you're owed neither an explanation or communication. You're owed money and/or comics. The fact that you'll settle for the former just makes you a nice person, nicer than me.

just j'd in my pants

just got back the stan lee sigs that i sent to sean at nycc. well the moderns anyways... they turned out great. 5 of 6 9.8, couldn't be more satisfied. thanks!

has anyone got back their economy Submissions from Late May yet?

I would vote no. In fact, if no money ever switches hands I would vote no on even the board transactions. Maybe we need to add a Butthurt section. This could include the deals where we feel our time has been wasted, but that there hasn't actually been a payment made. HOS - True conman territory. Bad guys who have screwed people over multiple times. Probation- Someone took my money & it took months to get the think worked out. They fell off the internet after losing a job or a bad family situation & cannot be trusted. Butthurt- I was the first in the thread to . It's my book & the deal didn't get completed for some reason. Did I lose money? No, but I wasted a valuable 2 minutes of my life time. Similar to if you call a comic shop & reserve something, but when you arrive they can't find it or accidently sold it to another customer. Wasted my time. Sorry, it just seems like people are getting hit up for the probation thread for some pretty minor situations even when they are not bad guys or habitual problems. Just so I am clear on "not being a bad guy" or "a habitual problem": You are saying that it is OK to make a deal with someone, use that deal to milk a higher offer out of someone else, then use that offer to try and milk more money out of the guy that already has a contract on the book, and when that doesn't work, sell it to the 2nd person? That, to me, is way worse than just screwing up or welching on a deal. Way, way worse. I'm not saying it is ok, just that it's not really my idea of a probation offense. It would annoy the heck out of me, but really, if no money was exchanged I would just move on. I guess I've had enough deals fall through in real life that if I'm not being ripped off then I can move on pretty quickly. Losing out on a comic, even if it was bs, shouldn't be such a large deal imo. Yeah, the milking a higher deal out of a 2nd buyer would certainly say something about the sellers character, but I just don't see it probation worthy like when someone is walking off with peoples money. It's a hobby & unless someone is stealing something from me, I find it pretty easy to just move on if a deal falls through. No, you're calling it butthurt, which is the board's wacky fun way of saying "get over it you pussy!" This. ...and if someone agreed to sell you a book for $1k and then sold it to another person for $1200 then they have stolen your money. Anything over and above the price he agreed to with the first buyer isn't his money, it's the guy money he had the original deal with. I think douchebaggery and bad business and being immoral do not necessarily = stealing money. If you haven't paid for it, it ain't yours. That doesn't mean you shouldn't have some recourse, but that also doesn't mean a crime has occurred.

got the Slab back from the Matt Slay sketch opp. Many thanks to MENACE. Much love to Matt Slay. THanks.

Because that wouldn't be a conflict of interest? Having the guys restoring or pressing the books also grading them? to be fair, they no longer appear to be concerned about conflicts of interest.

there's a difference between endorsing and having a direct financial interest in something.

the pressing turnaround times will end up getting clogged too. horrible, horrible business decision IMO. Although if they wanted to do some vertical integration that wouldn't ruin their public perception of independance, they should have integrated with some type of post slabbing framing service for CGC'd comics.

+1 I like the rules of this thread. I like to be 'wowed' an know that what I'm looking at is special. There's a million other places to post people's SS Slabs, I think we should preserve the rules whenever possible. But also that no one gets too bent out of shape when one calls out someone or is called out.

safe bet that whatever calendar rate they were on will slow down significantly more with the sdcc monster load of books. Also, sell your Walking Deads CGC's now, before all of these come back...

Hypothetically, What if someone who had a valid claim against someone else, but the deal is eventually completed, but they (the orginally wronged) refuse to remove the original probationer from the probation list? Do we put that person on the probation list?

anyone get back their economies from late may?

Clearly, they are trying, and trying to make do improve, and maybe even making strides towards that. But would say that unless they're paying VERY well, its probably hard to find qualified graders to even train in Sarasota. So while they certainly should try to hire them, they might have larger gains by increasing in the other facets of their business, and hiring qualified people for accounting, shipping, recieving, admin, convention staff, etc. When I'm getting a CGC SS signature witness at a convention in Seattle on a Thursday by a guy who says he'll probably be the one who grades this comic later, I think "WTF???" Why is this guy (very nice guy) in Seattle??? Shouldn't he be in Florida grading when they have a crazy backlog??? Couldn't they have someone with a less specialized skillset watching someone sign a comic book 3000 miles away?

So you want the same (or better) quality, at the same price with a faster turn around time? Or are you willing to pay more for faster and better? Just wondering what your acceptable metric is... My acceptable metric would be a grading service that runs their business like Richard Evans runs Bedrock City Comics, like Joe Grisolia runs CFP Comics, like Andrew Cretella runs GACollectibles, and like Dale Roberts runs Dale Roberts Comics. A business where everyone is treated professionally and with the same level of respect and courtesy. A business where if you have a problem they are working to an end where both the business and the customer are equally satisfied instead of admonished like a child in school or taunted with phrases such as, "Well, yeah, prove it." That would be my acceptable metric. There's a difference between being a good retailer (which your examples may be and do what they do very well) and being a good MANUFACTURER. CGC is a manufacturer of product (the product being a combination of grading, restoration check and slabbing). It is a far more complex process to manufacture than to retail (not saying its easy, just different and not necessarily as complex). I agree that customers should be treated with respect and courtesy, and I haven't had any experiences with CGC to the contrary. And I dont recall seeing CGC on the boards telling people to "prove it" (not sure what "it" is, do you have some specific beef?) CGC don't manufacture anything. They offer an opinion and guard against it being tampered with. maybe, maybe not. Who makes the cases? Do they buy them? Are they made in house? And if even the cases are bought, they are 'sort of' like a manufacturer. A comic book comes down the 'line', and a person (or two or more) carefully inspects the book for quality. They track the quality, then proceed to customize a case for the book, then encapsulate the book. Then on to the next book. Sounds a lot like the back end of a line at a manufacturing plant. Then they are processed for shipping. Not exactly the same as a manufacterer, but not too for off from a certain point of view. They need to hire an efficiency expert, who will tell them that they need to specialize. Any one who is trained in grading should be JUST GRADING, all day every day. You can hire other staff relatively easily for EVERY other function from receiving to shipping, to accounting, to collecting comics at shows and witnessing sigs at shows, to customer service to answer emails, to running the website, to answering phones, to management, to admin, to marketing, to safety, to HR. When a company grows (and this one has grown and is growing), you HAVE to start specializing. This should be simple, although painful, but management needs to take the longer view and push it if they really want to be successful. So please CGC, consider hiring a consultant if you can't get these things done on your own (which I know isn't easy). If its a matter of facilities and space, start different shifts. People can be receiving and shipping all night long, managing web orders and the web site, answering emails too.

Why don't you try it and let us know how well you do. I'm pretty sure they don't 'guarantee' return dates so BBB probably can't help too much. Its like saying a restaurant takes too long to cook your food. It might be bad business, but not false advertising, even if they 'estimate' your food will take a certain amount of time to cook. I think that if you really want to make a difference, find out the emails of the bosses there, and send them a letter of this type: "Dear Boss X, I very much appreciate the CGC service, and it has greatly contributed to my comic collecting. I have been a customer for XXX amount of time, and have sent in XXX submissions, totaling $$$$ during that period. While I truly enjoy your service, your turnaround times for grading have become so outrageous that I will no longer make any submissions for the forseeable future, until the turnaround times become reasonable again. A submission to CGC has become the equivalent of a 5-month-7month, interest free loan for CGC, and this is inconsistent with my needs as a consumer and my desires as a collector. I do hope to someday become a customer of yours again, and truly wish you all the best. " If they get enough of these letters, coupled with significantly decreases in submissions, you MIGHT have an impact. But they're FLUSH with cash right now, and seemingly working harder, not smarter, possibly thinking, "If we work hard and get past this rush, we can slow down and regroup and reorganize." But management needs to figure out the rush isn't going away. Comic movies keep coming out, there's more and more CONS, which are getting bigger and bigger. And more and more of the world are discovering comics. And Walking Dead keeps sauntering along...

I think as long as you make it clear, you can do whichever you like. For some sellers, selling internationally comes with some sort of added risk and extra paperwork, and the extra time and effort reduces the desire to discount. Some sellers have free domestic shipping because of their job. All of these are ok, as long as its made clear ahead of time. If I were buying from someone in Canada (I live in US), and they said 'free shipping in canada, exact to US', I would pay the advertised price and expect to also pay the full shipping price on top of the advertised purchase price. I think most reasonable people would. Like if you buy something from Amazon or another website that has free domestic shipping. If I buy internationally, I know I'm paying full shipping price, not "Amazon price - domestic shipping price + int'l shipping price."

Yeah, now you mention it, I can't remember any part of the movie where Luke potentially destroying the galaxy was cause for concern. If he joined Vader in the second movie, or the Emperor in the third one, it could have led to more galactic destruction.

i've got this, one but in low grade. I love ski covers!

That's the key point for me. Sellers listing on this board aren't paying a listing fee or a final value fee. They aren't paying a commission or a seller's premium. They also aren't under the gun to get the book mailed in a day or two. The board is a much more favorable venue for sellers than any other place I'm aware of. In those circumstances, asking buyers to pick up your PP fees just seems greedy. BUT they also aren't afforded some of the protections and larger markets of other venues...I agree with you, I just don't think its totally one-sided. This is basically a marketing and psychology question. What way of communicating the pricing/fees/shipping increases your chance for a sale the most? Full itemized fee structure ahead of time? Bundled prices? Discounts? Different things appeal to different markets and industries and turn them on and off in different ways. As long as no one is lying or tacking on non-pre-disclosed fees at the back end, I think we're good here.

Thanks, you make a great point, I'll stay away from those years.

I'd take a guess at 1000 - 1500 and I have 2 of them, mwhahaha, ok just sold 1.

Got my moderns from the show, still waiting for the older ones... Wrightson and Ron Lim Wrightson and Jusko, I was so sure this would be a 9.6/9.8 but then I bought the comic for a quarter, so whatevs. And this one looks so much better in person you wouldn't believe it. Mark Texeira.

Bernie Wrightson and Ron Lim One and only Blue or Yellow!!! Kyle Rayner drawn by Wrightson?? Yes and Thank You.