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Did you pick up anything at the ComicCon this past weekend? How many vendors were there? Who?

Voting out of love for it all: covers, artists, stories, etc. Personally, HOM was the best overall (as indicated by its long run) mystery book for me, and as indicated in the polls. HOS was more like a roller coaster, while stories in Ghosts were somewhat reptitive. In addition to LD / Cardy covers, I also liked Cruz art, which was popular during the Bronze.

Hello Richard, Welcome to another spine tingling thread I call, "Infinite Bronze Horror Thread". I have several hosts with me, which are your favorite?

Here's a trivia question (and actually I forgot the answer but I have to look it up): What was the name of the host of the Ghosts series later in the run? He wore a hat and his glasses were a touch of class.

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OK, you asked for it. Anything to do with bronze horror, let's talk about it here. This is my favorite genre and my favorite age as well.

So, to start things off with a poll: I know I left out other Publishers, but I figured the majority of us here are in either the DC or Marvel camps.

CHOOSE 4 OF YOUR FAVORITE BRONZE HORROR TITLES BELOW!

Thats a good point, but disclosure has to start somewhere. We can't do much about the past, but hopefully we can fix these problems in the future.

And I see your point as well, but if the information isn't valid... it's going to be a futile effort. This scenario assumes detection of the process can be conclusive and the industry as a whole to recognize the process of pressing formally. Right now, it's a dirty little secret...

All I want to see is FULL DISCLOSURE of any process that has been carried out.

I hear ya man, but I don't think its gonna happen, since a given comic's heritage has already been lost (except for maybe a pedigree that could be tracked from owner to owner).

Even if a seller says 'NO PRESSING', he doesn't know what the previous 10 owners have done to it. CGC not recognizing it, and the trouble with even detecting it.

Good luck there. I'd rather wish for world peace--it's more likely to happen

You have my permission to change your name to "BoobBoy".

Actually I thought his name was renamed to LTL--Lightly Toasted Lad after he got his comic-keys refund?

Copyright infringement! Lawsuit pending....

Yeh, cause the only people who press their books are the people who submit to CGC..

 

 

Yeah, well if I buy a set of VF/NM Bronze books for $2 a copy, then I'm not too worried about a few of them being "pressed".

 

It's the "high dollar CGC crowd" that's gonna take the bullet.

I agree. I like my books CGC'd though, now I'm having second thoughts....

I agree. "There ain't no such thing as a free lunch" rings true--for someone to gain, another must lose. It's all in a balanced equation. Market correction is inevitable...

 

"Patience is a virtue" rings true as well.

Go for it. Best of luck to you. Hope you don't get any books with "undisclosed pressing".

 

Like I said, I've taken myself out of the CGC market for at least the foreseeable future. If people are manufacturing CGC 9.4-9.8 copies on their book presses, I can't see me paying less now, than I will a year or two in the future.

 

By that time, there will be multiple copies for everyone.

That's actually a good strategy, and one I'm becoming very familiar with...

An educated market will eventially correct this as the number of high grade copies go up and the novelty of the slab goes down...

 

Sure, and not to mention all the ticked off people who submitted their "bought off the newstand copy", received a CGC 9.6, and are now forced to watch their comic become "common" as more 9.0-9.4 copies are pressed to higher grades.

 

In many ways, this rampant pressing (and clean-and-pressing) has made a mockery of the CGC "high grade scarcity" business model.

I agree. "There ain't no such thing as a free lunch" rings true--for someone to gain, another must lose. It's all in a balanced equation. Market correction is inevitable...

I'd prefer to get a virgin uncompressed book, but how many virgins are out there?!? I thought so...

 

Don't make me take out my longbox.....

well, my cgc box is heavier....

What is it you have a problem with--ironing (light pressure accompanied by heat and possibly humidity), extreme-force pressing, or both?

 

I have a problem with supporting a business model where pressing is considered an ethical way to make money.

An educated market will eventially correct this as the number of high grade copies go up and the novelty of the slab goes down...it's not a free ride by any means.

i've got a thousand virgin SA books in terrific shape that i love. but, i still don't care if someone presses a book, and sells it to me in a higher grade than it was before. the book has been improved without adding or subtracting anything - and i'm happy with that......

 

Let me get this straight, you're HAPPY that someone pressed your books from a wrinkled 8.0 to a pristine 9.6, and you'd rather buy a pressed copy than a virgin, unnpressed and unrestored book?

 

That's some whacky tobacky you're smokin'.

I'm smokin some of that stuff too. I'd prefer to get a virgin uncompressed book, but how many virgins are out there?!? I thought so...

I don't believe that all pressing ca be determined.....

Not only that, but a ton of books has passed hands many times over, and the history of a given book (barring a pedigree) has surely been lost by now...

How about a family tree for a comic's heritage?

Personally, IF I did press, it would be to improve the overall looks of a book that I would keep. If I knew it had been pressed, I would communicate it. But folks, I live in REALITY, and I don't see this changing EN MASSE because of the reason listed above.

Either live with it, quit the hobby, or promote change....

sorry to hear about that. I've definitely been mindful of temps. The CGC case adds another factor to consider.

My dad is showing me the ways of the collecting force with baseball cards, money and tobacco tags...but I'd say our love for each other's hobbies are mutually exclusive.

If he only knew the power of the comic side!

There was a guy on the Ebay comics chat board who bought some restored GLs from comic-keys.

Do you have a link? Do we have a comprehensive "victim" list?

If I want to invest, I'll park it elsewhere in the US financial system. That's why collecting comics are a HOBBY for me, not an INVESTMENT.

In my little world, getting MOST of my money back when I sell is the BEST proposition I can hope for at this point. Yeah, I might do well on my high grade books, but c'mon--I'm not going to get rich doing this. (Unless I want to upgrade my book grades 1 or 2 points, ask for multiples of guide--oh that's another thread-sorry).

Just enjoy the reason why you are doing it--the love of the art, stories, and memories. Just make sure you make decisions with your pocketbook in mind and not just your heart.