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This is a very good point! There are a few good books that have no activity but are just not available. I'm still trying to get a Ms. Marvel v.2 #1 Turner variant. There's only one a eBay and it's a set of all 3 covers. And I've seen it a few other places for 100.00 and not willing to pay that price. For some reason the sketch variant is much easier to find even though it has a smaller print run. I searched on ebay when you first brought it up and i was questioning you. There was 3 or 4 sketch, and about 20 color at that time... could be just a case of dont talk about it on here. it was and is always more common than the sketch. They were also cheap, which is probably why the herd has bought them all up off ebay.

nowadays, i dont think any stores besides maybe chains would comply. Everyone keeps the misprints nowadays. definitely a must have for completionists, but i doubt its tough to find long term.

after this thread got bumped a few weeks backs, I added five more 2nd prints, because I only had one or two and the way moderns are these days, you never know what people might decide to care about.

I'm surprised that uncanny x force run doesn't get more pub or value. Were print runs really high? It was the new 52 batman of marvel for a year or more, and it was the cause of new x-men 127/8 or whatever becoming valuable. It reminded me of astonishing x-men around the time i got back in to collecting. All the early issues were tough to find in 9.8 quality, everybody was buying and holding, and no one was selling. The multiple reboots of the x-force title were what seem to finally kill it off. It can still sell decently, but not like the height of its interest while it was still an ongoing. Nice to see comic discussion has won out again, also

this kind of post can get you a strike, its just pure flaming. If you are mad at some of cBSi's shadier practices being outted, help them reform and do better. making up lies and fantasies just keeps the thread derailed.

Ok, if membership growth of their google group is the measure of success I can agree with that. My comments are in reference to whether an "investing" groups success should be a measure of their ability to offer valid and profitable "investing" advice to its members. All I see from them in that regard, is a leveraging of their small but dedicated group of followers, to corner the market on small print run books no one cares about, while selling back and forth to each other, and said books collapse again within a year. Basically, its the blowoutcards.com, comicsheatingup.net, 1000x copies of Image #1s from DCBS, type guys moving into "big two" variants and "self-printed" variants. I have always been at odds with the quick flip herd/crowd traditionally seen as using bleedingcool.com as their main source for "information", which I have consistently called "bubblecool.com" for about 5 years. A bunch of them grouping themselves together under social media and running a website and podcasts doesnt change anything, just means they are millennials who are social networking savvy. I have always respected you Larry as a knowledgeable primary market person. I am very pro primary market vendors and recognize cBSi's ability to push store variants on to their "followers" and that it is positive for the originators of those variants. But as a guy who runs a successful business, you must be able to recognize some of the things they push (hiding connection between site and variants, listing their own books as top 10, claiming books are heating up with 0 or 1 sales data point) are detrimental to the hobby long term. Certainly counter to their name as an "investing" site. The more "new" people to the hobby that get wrecked in the secondary market, the harder it will be for the primary market to whether any future troubles. A lot of their followers are going to be bag holders long term, and many already are, but gloss over it by saying "you win some you lose some". Well no, if you chase after fake demand and over pay for snake oil, you just lose them all...

Yeah, there are a lot of parallels in the market today. Though at least that Wizard list was based on sales, and not just "opinion" or their own books

I love it when people throw in the ubiquitous "WE" I have never whined about them, not even once. If you dont like my posts, click on my name, then profile, then choose "ignore this user". My post was in direct reply to someone else's comment

make your post with evidence or facts, and I am sure those people would be on your side. Also, disagreeing, especially when something is posted with no evidence, is not "combating" you. It's a discussion.

I'd be curious to see a cBSi's "success" defined. What exactly is it successful at? Where is the proof of this success? cBSi is successful because of they have a civil discussion board? An invite only G+ group that bans anyone who doesnt drink the kool-aid is hardly a "civil forum". But, why would a "comic book investing" site be judged successful based on the civility of its forums? (which they arent) 99% of their articles highlight books which are worth less today then when they were written about..... on a site about "investing". That is is not success, but abject failure. cBSi is successful at *temporarily* pushing up the value of books they highlight (only for them to drop off again soon after). cBSi is successful at helping move store variants, which benefit cBSi and the store, but are worthless as "investments" which is what the site is supposed to be about. cBSi uses the massive resources and internet traffic of the CGC forums, like a leech, to feed themselves. Obviously blacklisting cBSi would be wrong(and I am free speech nut), but there is no shame that CGC doesnt moderate their forum to make the moderns section a cBSi cheerleading squad as some would have it be. cBSi's snake oil peddling only works because of the state of the market for comics right now, when it finally turns, they will be washed out with the tide.

This forum is an absolute google POWERHOUSE,( which is why CGC would be smart not to switch BB software as Arch was looking at doing previously). This site comes up as the top result on almost any comic book you search, especially if its slabbed. cBSi want to have(keep) the moderns board and the heating up thread as their personal fleecing grounds to bring in fresh meat, which is why discussion is the biggest threat to them. say something like "Hey that Dell'otto is a store variant isn't it?" gets a froth mouthed reply like "QUIT WRECKING THE THREAD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" As darkstar pointed out above. No one is against cBSi itself or the good members there, or any other such nonsense. People just want the truth and they want open discussions. Offer people legitimate advice, or evidence for heating up comics, and let the discussion flow.

I bought it and the #2 Canadian Flag, both after the were released, but the year they were released. The Canadian Flag one was actually harder to get originally, and from my experience the more desired book. Maybe a year later and the 3rd Claw had asserted its dominance, but I never saw it reach the prices they seem to go for now. I cant say, because it happened when i wasnt paying attention, but there has clearly been a big jump up. Even during Dark Reign, when Daken interest seemed to be at its peak and he was getting his own series, I never saw it get anything close to the current price. Am I wrong? When did the big bump come?

It couldn't have been at CoC shops down there. I don't think anything is on their wall for $25. They are very proud of their books.

sorry, in plain english: 1.) people were trolling me because of an old unused website, which still had public access for some features including lists of current ebay items for sale. 2.) they tried to imply it was insecure, and I pointed out that it is not and hosted in a far more complicated way than anything they know how to use/do (an entire server made from scratch on the top cloud computing host in the world, a server that I have complete control over, and hosts more than just the hobby site) and that if they tried to hack it they would fail and be caught.

There was a screenshot picture from an old inactive hobby site which I am associated with and which my screen name on here relates to, that is long dormant. The three cBSi guys, yog, ultra, and jimmy, have all been making posts trying to troll about it. (all of them have been flaming worthy of mod notification, but i dont button hump) Instead of taking his bait, I informed him how the page he was screenshoting worked, and why the ebay feeds can have non-comic related things in them (people can mis-catgeory their sales listings) They also posted a link talking about "weak security", so I included a description of where its actually hosted, and noted that it records permanently every visitor and everything they do. It's not some wordpress site hosted on godaddy.com, it's a custom Linux virtual machine running on Amazon's Ec2 AWS cloud service (root access to the webserver, apache access logs and controls, many things 99.9% of internet site owners dont have access to, etc). It has a lot more than just that hobby site on it, and any n00bs trying to muck around with it will fail, and get busted for the attempt.

i'm usually pretty good with acronyms, but its not coming to me...

yup I remember

Ah, i see, you are still mad about being outed for your connections to cBSi and you are trying to troll and be funny?? Well, fail on both accounts, but I can give you a legit answer anyway You are looking at direct feeds off of current ebay listings. nothing more nothing less. In your case you are looking at: "the top 25 auctions with at least 1 bid, listed in Modern Comics, on ebay, with no duplicates allowed (ie two WD#1s with bid auctions, only the higher valued one would show)" The site isnt generating it, just displaying it. If someone has incorrectly listed a cookie jar as a comic to get more views, it can appear there. If the site were being actively managed, I am sure someone could filter it for you, but while it is not, you can luckily add block terms in one of the fields. Add "cookie" to the block filter and refresh the search and your jar will go away. Just one point to note, while that site is mostly inactive.... It is hosted on Amazon's EC2 AWS cloud, with full IP logging turned on. Everything and everyone that uses it is fully logged and recorded. So you might want to consider using a proxy when visiting it, unless you like people having your IP address. Also, its well protected from intrusions using Amazon's cloud security setup, so anyone trying to hack it, would probably fail and just end up facing a lawsuit....

where is it going nuclear

An understandable preference versus facing the truth, or responding to it. Since the truth is well established again here, I can say it again, so that you dont keep derailing this thread. this is my last response to you on this subject.

my hobby website's features are entirely behind a login wall as they always have been, and it is nothing like Whetton's site. Even ignoring the fact that its been inactive for years, you wouldnt have a clue what it can or can't do, who else has been involved, or anything about it . You probably didnt even know it has a log in, . Keep grasping at straws. Keep googling and whois'ing, it's cute. What you want to call a rallying cry, is just people speaking truth. No matter how large the pump-n-dump herd of trolls is, truth will be spoken. This is an internet discussion board, where all opinions and point of views are allowed. It is not an extension of any garbage "investing" site or someones personal fiefdom. Every cBSi lie, scheme, scam, and bad advice, is fair game for discussion. Claim a book is hot when it has 0 sales, boom, heating up thread toppic. Claim something is top10 hot book, when it's a garbage lemming site's homebrew variant, BOOM, heating up thread. Try to pass off a virgin cover as not a store variant, BOOM, important details for discussion on the heating up thread. All of it is on-topic, comic related, and fully above board. This is the CGC forms, not cBSi forums.

this thread is not a pump-n-dumper safe space, never was and never will be

i'll probably just do what I want, but feel free to respond to the point I made

in between rants, i do actually try to give people good, well-thought advice, based on experience Cheers

why do so many people get confused, (or in past cases extremely butt hurt) in this thread, whenever an actual discussion occurs. It is not the "books for cheerleading thread" If the thread is called, "books that are heating up", then people should discuss whether or not a book is heating up or not. When so many people post books which are clearly NOT heating up, but which they either want to heat up, or others have told them are going to heat up, they should not be surprised, or shocked, or offended, that people might actually question saying: "are you sure thats heating up?" "here are some sales that seem to point otherwise". Ultimately, its either a dont ask dont tell thread, where people only cheerlead for books to go up up and away, or its a discussion thread about what is heating up, and that involves both sides of the discussion, for the books that are mentioned. Lastly, i wasnt scrutinizing the book, though legitimately curious WHY it was brought up in this thread (where it clearly does not belong).