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http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=9674685Post9674685 was my post where i referenced them, there are several on ebay, no one seems to care, but because of this thread, they all have a slew of watchers on them now. What an age to live in.... any book, at any moment, can be jacked for any reason, and there are always people ready to pile on. If you want to find something worth spending 100 bucks on in moderns, that isnt over valued, first and foremost dont talk about it here Second, buy whatever other people have lost interest in. The variant pumpers seem to be continuing to push farther back in time to find hard to get things they can create interest in. Current variants are always over priced. late 2013ish to early 2015is is probably the best area to target for good value vs rarity. Find ones that were never pumped by the cBSi herd, which are 1:100 or rarer of characters you like, and get it without the premium.

that is an odd book to bring up, I showed pictures of it a couple weeks ago in the Wild thread, what made you bring up this book?

right idea wrong words, all that means is that a book was overvalued due to hype and is retreating to its real value. This only happens with sudden extreme rises in price. The majority of the market just trudges along slowly upward, with movements up and down, happening from time to time. "currently stable" but nothing to preclude them from tracking the same way. It's simple supply and demand. The supply on many of these variants was always small, they experienced a hueg upswing in demand which makes prices soar, but if the demand fades, they will return to previous values, relative to past demand.

because the only people willing to pay those prices already own them. I collected that winter soldier book when it was new, and it was like a $25 dollar book at the time, with no one buying it.

do BIN w B.O. on anything you arent 100% sure on.

They make a market, they arent first to it. The herd (their readers) then chase it. cBSi is the definition of Herd, when i said that, I meant their followers and readers, not the authors and scammers.

I'd be curious to see if either of them could get that range currently. Absolutely. A 9.9 WD #1 just sold for $12k yesterday, and a 9.8 ASM 667 sold for $7300 last month (first copy to come up in 3.5 years). -J. Curious, are there any 10.0 WD #1 or is 9.9 the highest? Grade Universal Qualified Sig Series Rest. Total Mint 10.0 0 0 0 0 0 Mint 9.9 21 0 3 0 24 Near Mint/Mint 9.8 730 12 1 30 0 872

what venue did the asm sell on

I think a lot of start up guys tend to be reaching. If your PC is part of your inventory, you probably arent ready to be a store. That's what I saw in some of the ones that opened in my area...

I'd be curious to see if either of them could get that range currently.

cBSi is by definition THE HERD. Ironic that the writer produces an article with the blue and red pills in it, immediately after I and several other people here started red pilling their sheep. I only have one reply to his article, for all the cBSi readers: Wake Up....

well, not $3.50 This did better a month ago: htthttp://www.ebay.com/itm/RAT-QUEENS-1-VARIANT-Cover-CGC-9-8-Fiona-Staples-/322311043275?hash=item4b0b3c38cb:g:LHkAAOSwaB5XnQxCp While they are not publishing new stories, it's going to stagnate. Once they come back with something it should perk back up. maybe not $350. was it really that high on multiple sales? I have a raw copy, which i did not get around to selling, and those were going for $75-$100 or so. Three-fitty is a meme joke he was making instead of answering me, so I replied back mirroring the joke. Thanks for posting real sales numbers . Raw for $100 makes $55 slabbed pretty rough.

From $350 to $3.50 is a big drop

never was into that series, what was the peak for that issue?

Well, I would just suggest to you, that some of your sources of information are leading you to over pay for books. Now, given that not everyone is willing or able to put in time to do their own research, that's probably ok. As long as it keeps you ahead of most people, you can get in somewhat early and feel good about what you buy. Where we diverge is that I am accusing some of your sources as promising people great opportunities and advice, while in fact giving them a load of BS with a virtual pyramid scheme piled on top. I think there is some decent opinion and content on the site, and there are probably more legit users than the few scumbags, but I would say put a nice hard cap on the per book spending you do with their advice. $25 sounds about right. If you spend more than $25 per book on ANYTHING they recommend, write about, or suggest, you are too late to their party, overpaying, and virtually assured to lose money on a 12-24 month time scale. (Obviously if you dont sell, you havent "lost money" just grossly overpaid) Their current paradigm is essentially identify (or self-print) a low print run book, write about it, watch the membership wipe it from ebay and the price goes up. Realize the pattern, and operate within it. Last thing you want to do is build a nice Ferrari collection and find out in a couple years that they are all just kit cars

I would think if that lot sale is for real, that the buyer would be voldemort SS'ing them, via sig verification

your lot are all signed and would be Green label, the sale is blue label and doesnt seem to have sig. cool book though, Ihave never seen that one before, but then I dont "do" spider-man , so probably not surprising I hadnt seen it before.

I can say as a reader, collector, and genuine fanboy. I cannot keep up with what's hot and what's not. Sooooooo...I follow the site as a reference to what is out there. @aerischan , I would just add to what you said, that you can tell if it "is collectors" when the books in question have been watched for years with no price change prior to the article, then a sudden extreme shift. @head cBSi isnt about reading or collecting, its supposedly about "investing" or finding out about price movement before it happens. Except, the only movement they report on, are ones they themselves cause, and one day when I am bored maybe I'll take the time to do a forensic analysis of their recommendations, and where those books stand now, relative to the time of writing....

destroying characters to pander to PC politics, and failing to resist the renumbering party that DC had started with new 52, did them in. I am close to shutting Marvel out of my pull list altogether, for the first time since I quit comic collecting around the time of the Onslaught story line in late 90s

Looks like all the rebooting is reaping what it sowed. Speculators, variant chasing and horde buying of new series, has been hiding some of the decline for a while imo. I hope when its all said and done, the final end result is a return to original titles and numbering, and a return to the original incarnation of all characters.

This is what I've been doing for the past few years only applied to football cards (Yes I'm a die hard Seahawk Fan). But collecting autographed Russell Wilson rookie cards has started to become boring as I have most of what I want. Over the past few years I've invested and sold smart enough to wear I currently have about 2 grand in Autographed Russell Wilson Rookie Cards that haven't cost me a dime. Now trying to apply the same logic back into comics has proven somewhat more difficult than in sports cards. The markets I think are a lot more stable in sports cards and much more predictable vs comics which seems to have a ton of volatility one minute your 9.8 is worth $600 two weeks later its dropped a few hundred bucks and you're stuck. It's made me very reluctant to really want to pull the trigger on any big dollar items and one of the reasons I found my self on this board hoping to get an inside edge on trends or at the very least a better understanding of them. With that being said it almost at this point in time seems easier to just continue buying and selling cards and taking said profits into the comic arena where if I fail at least in the end I lost nothing. With sports cards, there is a connection between value and the real physical world. Players actually exist, and actually play sports. You can hype up players to a certain extent, but ultimately, it's anchored in reality. With comics, you can see some connections between reality and hype, be it TV shows, Movies, increasing readership, etc. But, there also starts to become a push to hype on properties of the book itself, independent of what its about. Artist, Writer, 2nd Printing, Exclusive variant, etc. If a sports card that was worthless suddenly spiked in value, it would be because he got moved to starting position, traded to a new team, etc. A comic can get spiked just because a thread or news site can convince some people that it matters, the artist is the next Leonardo Devinici, or that how hard it is to find means its important, etc

true true

those are all examples of pumped up books imo. Pumped up books take time to fade once people over pay, they dont want to sell at a loss, and if they dont have to, they just hold on. Bedlam 9.8 NYCC is NOT selling currently while being listed at $49.99 on ebay. Even 2 years after its release, people were trying to sell it for $300+ It stopped being a $300+ book months after its release, but it took years for the BINs to fade, and people to accept reality.