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Thanks guys, I seem to struggle the most grading these mid-grade books. For this one was thinking if it was near the top of the mid-grade range it’d be worth it for me. I may submit just for experimental purposes still but I’m leaning towards not submitting. If I do submit I’ll post back with grade.

5 minutes ago, Sensei Ryan said:

Yeah...that is contradictory for sure  I wonder which one was graded first?  Maybe the purple label one came first then the blue (with both being new slabs it's harder to know).  This has me scratching my head, too...

They look to have been graded 6 months apart, purple label 11/18, blue label 5/19 according to census anyways... I don’t know, but the back and forth stance on tape in general is why I generally try to avoid it - I’ve got a lot of low-mid grade SA books but I generally prefer other defects over tape unless the deal is too good to pass up. 

6 minutes ago, Sensei Ryan said:

Maybe in this case they considered it restoration because the tape was the only thing keeping the piece attached to the cover (and not just a tear) - It would make sense if a tear has tape and it's just keeping it from flapping to be considered Blue label while complete pieces reattached by tape (that otherwise would be lost) considered restoration.  Either way, it is vague and it would be nice for us to know what to expect prior to submission what stance CGC has on tape (being considered for blue or purple labels, particularly). 

I hear you but here’s the same book (below) with the same note from CGC about pieces being reattached with tape, yet this one is a blue label... At best, like you said, it’s way too vague and at worst it’s just very inconsistent.

Debating on pressing, cleaning and grading this one. Thoughts appreciated. 

14 minutes ago, Ride the Tiger said:

Last I read Value Tier is 80 days so 4 months just for grading. Glad I went elsewhere for pressing otherwise the greater portion of a year just to get your books back. Is it safe to say that when Value TATs get this high more people start using Fast Track which will inevitably put Value even further behind?

I’ve got some books still in “receiving”, which were delivered to CGC in early June for Value Pressing (CCS) and Grading. I figure if I see them by March I’ll be lucky. 

11 hours ago, marvelmaniac said:

Well...

I do not have my books graded but IMO CGC needs to "make up their mind" and should publish "Generalized CGC Grading Standards" so people know what the heck is going on.

This is like Baseball HOF induction, what does it take to get in, the standards are constantly changing to the point that nobody knows what the standards are anymore.

It really does not matter to me, as far as I am concerned, I love my books but when push comes to shove, they are just comic books and I have plenty of books with tape.

I agree, them changing their minds on this and not being clear about what is and isn’t resto as far as tape is concerned is frustrating. But to me it seems only a matter of time before it’s viewed as restoration once and for all, because at the end of the day what really is the difference between tape and glue on the cover? Both are adhesive substances one just has a piece of cellophane attached to the adhesive substance and that somehow makes it better than the one without? But maybe not depending on what year you had it graded and what kind of tape and what the function of the tape was? Okay, if you say so CGC. 

20 hours ago, Kchung said:

Not on the same level as most people here but I put a copy of Gotham City Sirens 1 back on the shelf after flipping through it. I also stopped buying Avenging Spiderman after issue 7 

Similar failure on Avenging Spiderman... I had Avenging Spider-Man on my pull-list at my LCS, but my LCS has some rule where if you don’t pick up your books in a couple weeks, and they are sold out of that particular issue it goes back on the shelf. Well, I missed going to my LCS for a couple weeks, so guess who owns the full run (1-22) of Avenging Spider-Man minus issue #9? At the time I figured oh well, I just wanted to read the book really so I bought that issue digitally...

This is not the only reason but at least a partial reason I now pre-order my monthly pulls thru a online service and have them delivered.

Thanks! Sorry forgot to get scans before I sent them, only got the photos... no color breaking defects that I could see, bottom left corner is a tad soft. 

6 hours ago, marvelmaniac said:

The book will not be downgraded unless it is a higher grade than a VG 4.0.

CGC will grade the book as if the tape was not there so if the tape is securing the cover it would be graded as if the cover were not secured.

Here is CGC's new stance on tape.

https://www.cgccomics.com/news/article/3327/CGC-Modifies-Stance-on-Grading-Submissions-with-Tape/

This is what I believed to be true, until I saw this book floating around on eBay (graded 2018)...

2 hours ago, HookemNC said:

Hey, I am game. I am actually looking to pick up a TWD #1 and would love some opinions on if I should be looking to buy now, in 6 months, or even further down the road. It's a book on my " I must have it" list, even if the series is done. I too am passing on Captain Marvel 8 unless I see one tomorrow morning at cover just sitting on the shelves. I am not going out of my way to find this book as I have my doubts about the "internet generated buzz" based off what appears to be more rumors. Reaver 1 was a solid read and I actually look forward to seeing how this series pans out long term.

If you're planning to wait it might be awhile... the book tracked well with the popularity of the show, and as the popularity has been fading, so has the value in the book and all TWD keys for that matter. I have no idea what AMC's plans are, but with all the spin-offs in talks and on-air and main show renewed for season 10, and the comic book just freshly ending it might take several years for it to hit rock bottom in popularity and all the fair-weather fans and speculators still holding to dump. 

But, if it's a book you really can't wait on, it's not a terrible time to buy. It's on the downswing, just may not be all the way down yet. The good thing with that book is the low-print run will prevent it from ever falling off the cliff completely, and will always have decent value in high-grade. Just my opinion.

44 minutes ago, jsilverjanet said:

I can't see Paper Girls sustaining any real value - there were plenty of copies of this book to go around. If you have them, sell

It doesn’t really have a ton of value now tbh, there’s plenty of raw copies in the $10-$15 range on eBay right now...

On 7/9/2019 at 6:54 AM, Aweandlorder said:

Killing joke is kind of a sad joke right now. My copy is sitting there at a 35 BIN with no takes. There were times when this book would fly for $50. Now not so much 

Still seems fairly easy to sell for $40 raw in high grade. There’s an auction going on now with 36 hours left, 20 bids and already up to $40...  many sold in past week went for over $40 with the top end being $76. I don’t know what’s up with the 0.99 listing... but that seems to be an extreme outlier.

7 hours ago, sagekilz said:

Just fuel for the fire...
 

X-Factor #5 

X-Factor #6

More fuel... my personal favorites with CGC notes in parenthesis...

Captain Marvel #14 (1st appearance of Kamala Khan in one panel cameo)

Captain Marvel #17 (2nd appearance of Kamala Khan in cameo on last page)

Captain Marvel #17 2nd Print (Ms. Marvel “Kamala Khan” Cover, predates Marvel Now Point One #1 and Ms. Marvel #1)

Marvel Now Point One #1 (First full appearance of the new Ms. Marvel “Kamala Khan”)

Ms. Marvel #1 (Kamala Khan becomes the new Ms. Marvel)

can’t wait for her to be in a movie and see all 5 of her first appearance issues sky rocket, lol. 

6 hours ago, alexanderjk said:

I'll soon be submitting some SA and key Daredevil books to CGC, but I'm torn between the standard blue label and the new Daredevil label. I may opt for the Daredevil label because I love how it looks and the books are for my personal collection

 

But if you love the way it looks and it’s for your PC isn’t that all that matters? Why are you torn? I personally don’t like the look of them, but if you do go for it! To me it’s a matter of I don’t really want anything on my label besides text - a image of any sort would potentially draw your eyes away from the cover art of the book - that’s the real beauty I paid to have slabbed and displayed in my comic cave, not your custom label art.

1 hour ago, Brittany M. said:

In consultation with eBay we decided on grade ranges that we felt would convey helpful information to the consumer without implying the sort of precision that comes from CGC’s full, in-person certification services. We also wanted to keep this service simple so that it was easy-to-understand and affordable for collectors of all experience levels.

Okay, but I guess my main point was why have specific buckets at all? You can still give grades of the same ranges, but without forcing tough decisions when a book falls on the cutoff point. 7.0-9.0 doesn't imply any more precision than 8.0-10.0, but if a book is a likely 8.0, well then 7.0-9.0 is a much safer range for CGC and buyers of the service. So why limit yourselves to those specific buckets? Just making things more difficult on yourselves unnecessarily. 

As far as keeping it easy to understand, I think people can understand 7.0-9.0 just as well as they can 8.0-10.0. But if you're going to stick to those buckets, what exactly do you plan to give a book when it falls on the cutoff, like when a CGC rep looks at a book online that they feel will most likely grade at an 8.0? Is it going to be 8.0-10.0 or 6.0-8.0? 

So, if a CGC grader looks at a book they believe will be graded at an 8.0 how exactly are they going to label it? 8.0-10.0 or 6.0-8.0? Because I'd imagine if it's given the bucket of 8.0-10.0 it will attract a higher price from buyer's using this service... 

Which leads to the obvious point which is that it'd be a lot better if these ranges weren't set buckets, but dynamic. So, you could see a listing that was 7.0 - 9.0 and another listing that was 8.0-10.0, and another listing that was 6.5-8.5, etc. It still allows CGC the same margin for error without having these fixed cutoff points. 

I wish the ranges were tighter in general but at the very least I'd hope they aren't fixed as advertised. Also seems like this would be in CGC's best interest as well, since they now wouldn't have to make tight calls when a book is on one of the cutoff points. Just my 2 cents.

If you want the cheapest route to just read the stories get a subscription to Marvel Unlimited... I believe they have issues 1-800+ for 9.99/month

Does anyone have experience doing this via the online submission form? It doesn’t seem to allow me to select a resubmit yellow label for pressing and regrading, I see fees associated with blue label... is this something I can submit online? Or do I need to actually drop it off at a con. 

As I understand it they can do it if you send it in slabbed and retain yellow label but I must be missing something or it’s just an in-person thing...

Help appreciated. 

Found this one for 2 quarters today. 

I usually run them thru my dishwasher and press them by driving over them afterwords. Bag and board after that and ship to CGC. I've never got a grade lower than 0.5 yet. 

Silver Surfer #44, used to see that book along with every other book in that 90’s volume of SS in dollar bins all the time. 9.8’s jumped to nearly $500 for a bit last year...

Walking Dead 19, around 2011-ish I paid $40 for it raw off eBay it was around FMV at that time, I bought it specifically because I had planned to attend a local convention where Kirkman would be, I had it signed by Kirkman and sent off to CGC. By the time it came back (9.6) Walking Dead was peaking in popularity and I sold it for $450.

Grade help? Any benefit to pressing first? Also some slight spine roll that's hard to capture in these pictures is present.