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techtre2003

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  1. My name is Trey,

    I collected as a kid back in the early to mid '90s and just started back in about a year ago. My favorite has always been Spider-Man and I'm working on a full ASM run now. I'm also currently working on X-Men and hope to one day have complete runs of all the big Marvel titles. I have also started picking up bronze horror books and have a few moderns I get every month.

     

    As my username suggests I'm also big into technology and work as an IT Admin. Comics and new tech; why couldn't I have picked cheaper hobbies?

  2. Hey all,

    I did some searching using the list of Silver Age dealers here and was able to pick up a nice Rawhide Kid #3 from Superworld Comics. I plan on giving this to my father for Christmas; hopefully he doesn't buy one before that, but as hard as these are to find I'd say I'm pretty safe! Now just a #1 to go for his complete run!!!

     

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  3. Too bad IV is not that good. =(

    It's the only one I didn't finish (not counting with 5 of course).

    Same. Completed 3, Vice City, and San Andreas. Probably got 20% complete on 4.

     

    Same here too. I'm only about 5-6 hours into V and can't say I love it yet but I am enjoying it. The driving is vastly improved which helps a lot.

  4. PIF PL Scenario (hypothetical)

     

    Goods get offered/taken as follows:

    A to B, B to C, C to D, D to B, B to C, C to A

     

    Party D comes on the thread and says "party C is gone, no communication, no items"

     

    Party A has yet to offer anything & doesn't want to because he's unlikely to get his claim from party C.

     

    In the "spirit of the thread" - a kindly boardie jumps in and puts up the next offer...life goes on...until D decides to do a nomination.

     

    Who goes on the PL ?

    a) just C - the guy who will never appear here again anyways

    b) A & C - both the guys who broke the PIF rules

     

     

    My vote would be just C. but...

    I think there are enough good, intelligent people in the PIF thread to come to a consensus as a whole on whether or not to nominate someone for the PL list. The thread as a whole runs relatively smoothly. Sure there are snags here and there but most things work themselves out. Outright theft, which has (in my opinion) occurred in this particular situation is rare so it's not like the PL list will be over run with PIF members.

     

    I'll finish it for you. "My vote would be just C. but.....that's not what the PIF rules call for and both A & C should be added to the PL."

     

    Anyways, that's the challenge with this type of multi-party transaction where sometimes applying the rules won't work the way most would want it to.

     

    I don't have a strong opinion either way, I think you guys could handle your business over there or make use of the PL.

     

    RULES:

    -You must not be on the Hall of Shame list or be in poor standing on the boards

    -You must have at least 50 posts

    -If you claim some book(s), you must post your offering within 24 hours

    -Only one offer at a time. No new book(s) can be posted until the existing offer has been claimed

    -Post pics or scans of the book(s) you're giving away. Cell phone pics are fine

    -Don't take book(s) if you've got nothing to offer in return

    -Ship book(s) quickly so people aren't left hanging. No later than two weeks after someone claims your offer.

    -Only one takeit every 7 days per member. However, if an item is not claimed within 24 hours, anyone is welcome to take it (no matter when they last claimed book(s). Just don't be greedy!

    -Please do not discuss the value of the book(s) being offered. If you don't like them, you don't have to take them

    -You can ONLY "take" a book after it has been listed.

    -Be honest

    -Have fun!

     

    Out of curiosity, how does the blue rule work?

     

    Nah, I finished my but... below that. Which I agree with you, the PIF guys can handle their own business. If something like that happened, PIF would come to a stop and decide as a group how to proceed. I would think as a participant (and maybe I'm wrong) that it would be decided as a group that all parties involved would receive something and Mr. C. should go to the PL list.

     

    I think we are all smart enough to see that the rule you quoted would not get "A" put on the PL list in light of the situation. Then again we are just dumb donkeys (sorry, I had to throw that in)

     

    Please explain to me why "A" doesn't get added, he claimed something and failed to post an offer within 24 hours - because of a "situation" where he got nothing sent to him by a thief who failed to ship to two people. That doesn't relieve him of his responsibility to post something. This is where the trouble lies, you have "rules" & the "spirit" of the thread, jumping back & forth between the two can work when there's a consensus but that may not always be the case.

     

    True, the PIF remedy was covered in my example "others stepping up" which is fine but that's not what the PL is about. The PL is for people who fail to honour a commitment, promise etc...if I say party "A" does belong on the list & your rule supports my position - there is no valid argument as to why both shouldn't go up on the PL & quite honestly, I wouldn't want to do business with either party.

     

    I "get" that you guys want a place to put thieves, I think it does benefit everyone - but the discussions taking place elsewhere (PIF thread) & dropping off nominations probably doesn't work.

    They should take place here like manicnerd was doing, just don't expect everyone to agree with you - if that's what the PL discussion thread was like then it would be boring, there's a reason for "testing" nominations by probing further & it adds legitimacy to the process.

     

     

    Because boardie "A" hasn't wronged anyone. There would be no individual to nominate him to the list. He claimed a ghost offer, and the thread as a whole would be discussing the PL nomination of boardie "C". People would understand.

     

    Boardie "C" would be on the list until they "made right" and boardie "D" took them off. That's how the regular PL currently works. It would be no different.

     

     

     

     

     

    Not really, in the hypothetical scenario, boardie "A" claimed goods from a bad apple and then refused to make an offer on the thread within 24 hours.

     

    When it's not a direct "one to one" trade it's not as simple as "he didn't pay, I'm not shipping his books" - in the PIF scenario the "taking & giving" is unrelated.

     

    The rule clearly spells out the expectation to post an offer within 24 hours. So since you say boardie "A" is off the hook, what happens in these two scenarios, when more time has passed:

     

    1. What if boardie "A" posts his offer then he learns about the deadbeat and wants to retract his offer?

     

    Same scenario as earlier then.

     

    Because boardie "A" hasn't wronged anyone. There would be no individual to nominate him to the list. He claimed a ghost offer, and the thread as a whole would be discussing the PL nomination of boardie "C". People would understand.

     

    2. What if he posts his offer, someone takes that offer & he comes on the thread and says he's not going to ship the items?

     

    Again, I think people would understand. It's not a robot or computer program dealing with absolutes. I don't think anyone would be demanding them to continue under the circumstances. The thread would basically stop until someone restarted it with an offer.

     

    And if the new person was a spoon and demanded they ship the offer, even though the discussion is going on and the thread has stopped. Well just like we have with the regular PL you nominate people and when there is a grey area it's discussed. This is not new.

     

    So to take it further. Say they did ship their offer. Then boardie "C" would be on the list until both boardie "D" and boardie "A" took them off.

     

     

    When there are multiple parties involved, a single problem child affects multiple parties and clearly impacts how people view subsequent "transactions" & responsibilities. I'm not disagreeing with the common sense conclusions that others would reach but they are not based on the rules.

     

    If the PIF rules don't factor into reaching the common sense result - the above two scenarios show where one problem child creates more problem children & keeping a lid on that would be difficult IF the consensus is that someone can break a cornerstone thread rule, where then do you draw the line where boardie "A" is committed to fulfilling his obligation if you're not going to use the rules?

    So once someone is wronged, they don't need to follow the rules, band-aids are applied & the show goes on... :D

     

    Focusing on your response to scenario 2 - how is this new "claimant" now a spoon when he's looking for the same resolution boardie "A" is seeking? He wants an offer that he claimed. Why is the first damaged party given empowerment and a subsequent damaged party less important?

    :gossip: I think they're both being spoons.

     

    BTW - I'm not disagreeing with PIF offenders being on the PL. I just think the PIF dynamic brings new perspectives on rule enforcement that aren't similar to PL enforcement & that's worth discussing.

     

    I think once the first person is wronged, the whole thing stops and discussion about what to do starts.

     

    I think you make a valid point though that maybe not all of the discussion be contained in the PIF thread and then a final decision brought to the PL board. Perhaps the PIFers start a discussion and then if deemed necessary by the group the situation is brought over to PL with a summary of events and links to find the original posts?

  5. First, I apologize for my snarky remark...I'll try to let things go.

     

    Out of curiosity, how does the blue rule work?

    Most people wait a week unless they really want the current offer then they wait the 24 hours :) Most of the good stuff doesn't last long.

     

    PIF PL Scenario (hypothetical)

     

    Goods get offered/taken as follows:

    A to B, B to C, C to D, D to B, B to C, C to A

     

    Party D comes on the thread and says "party C is gone, no communication, no items"

     

    Party A has yet to offer anything & doesn't want to because he's unlikely to get his claim from party C.

     

    In the "spirit of the thread" - a kindly boardie jumps in and puts up the next offer...life goes on...until D decides to do a nomination.

     

    Who goes on the PL ?

    a) just C - the guy who will never appear here again anyways

    b) A & C - both the guys who broke the PIF rules

     

     

    I assume A would move forward with their offering knowing that C will be put on the PL.

     

    I received quite a few PMs with people offering to send me things because they found out I got hosed. Actually, right now there are multiple people offering Slym their copies of the Killing Joke because he was bummed he didn't claim a PIF. So I feel personA would be ok with moving forward.

     

    This.

    Slym mentioned he wanted to read the Killing Joke. I'd actually like to read it myself so I offered to pick a copy up and pass it on to him after I read it. Another generous boardie offered to send me an extra copy he had so I wouldn't have to go buy one. I'd have to say a vast majority of the PIF members are good people. So when a bad apple steps in and screws someone over it's a big slap in the face. I guess if you all really don't want us PIFers to announce a thief amongst the boards we can just keep it to ourselves and wait for him to journey over to the marketplace to screw someone else over on a "real" transaction. Not to sound corny but I tend to think of the CGC boards as a whole that should all watch each other's backs and not separate clicks who don't care what happens in other threads; even though they are too blind to see it CAN affect them too. Sorry for the peace and love rant there I'm done :)

  6. PIF PL Scenario (hypothetical)

     

    Goods get offered/taken as follows:

    A to B, B to C, C to D, D to B, B to C, C to A

     

    Party D comes on the thread and says "party C is gone, no communication, no items"

     

    Party A has yet to offer anything & doesn't want to because he's unlikely to get his claim from party C.

     

    In the "spirit of the thread" - a kindly boardie jumps in and puts up the next offer...life goes on...until D decides to do a nomination.

     

    Who goes on the PL ?

    a) just C - the guy who will never appear here again anyways

    b) A & C - both the guys who broke the PIF rules

     

     

    My vote would be just C. but...

    I think there are enough good, intelligent people in the PIF thread to come to a consensus as a whole on whether or not to nominate someone for the PL list. The thread as a whole runs relatively smoothly. Sure there are snags here and there but most things work themselves out. Outright theft, which has (in my opinion) occurred in this particular situation is rare so it's not like the PL list will be over run with PIF members.

     

    I'll finish it for you. "My vote would be just C. but.....that's not what the PIF rules call for and both A & C should be added to the PL."

     

    Anyways, that's the challenge with this type of multi-party transaction where sometimes applying the rules won't work the way most would want it to.

     

    I don't have a strong opinion either way, I think you guys could handle your business over there or make use of the PL.

     

    RULES:

    -You must not be on the Hall of Shame list or be in poor standing on the boards

    -You must have at least 50 posts

    -If you claim some book(s), you must post your offering within 24 hours

    -Only one offer at a time. No new book(s) can be posted until the existing offer has been claimed

    -Post pics or scans of the book(s) you're giving away. Cell phone pics are fine

    -Don't take book(s) if you've got nothing to offer in return

    -Ship book(s) quickly so people aren't left hanging. No later than two weeks after someone claims your offer.

    -Only one takeit every 7 days per member. However, if an item is not claimed within 24 hours, anyone is welcome to take it (no matter when they last claimed book(s). Just don't be greedy!

    -Please do not discuss the value of the book(s) being offered. If you don't like them, you don't have to take them

    -You can ONLY "take" a book after it has been listed.

    -Be honest

    -Have fun!

     

    Out of curiosity, how does the blue rule work?

     

    Nah, I finished my but... below that. Which I agree with you, the PIF guys can handle their own business. If something like that happened, PIF would come to a stop and decide as a group how to proceed. I would think as a participant (and maybe I'm wrong) that it would be decided as a group that all parties involved would receive something and Mr. C. should go to the PL list.

     

    I think we are all smart enough to see that the rule you quoted would not get "A" put on the PL list in light of the situation. Then again we are just dumb donkeys (sorry, I had to throw that in)

  7. Techtre,

    Its several pieces a black plastic backer, acrylic front board and acrylic "top pick" tray.

    It lights up, fluorescent bulb in the base. the spiderman, marvel comics logo and marvels top pick are all illuminated. Came with a white china pencil which when I write on the acrylic board also illuminates.

     

    That's freakin' sweet! I may have to try to hunt something like that down.

  8. PIF PL Scenario (hypothetical)

     

    Goods get offered/taken as follows:

    A to B, B to C, C to D, D to B, B to C, C to A

     

    Party D comes on the thread and says "party C is gone, no communication, no items"

     

    Party A has yet to offer anything & doesn't want to because he's unlikely to get his claim from party C.

     

    In the "spirit of the thread" - a kindly boardie jumps in and puts up the next offer...life goes on...until D decides to do a nomination.

     

    Who goes on the PL ?

    a) just C - the guy who will never appear here again anyways

    b) A & C - both the guys who broke the PIF rules

     

     

    My vote would be just C. but...

    I think there are enough good, intelligent people in the PIF thread to come to a consensus as a whole on whether or not to nominate someone for the PL list. The thread as a whole runs relatively smoothly. Sure there are snags here and there but most things work themselves out. Outright theft, which has (in my opinion) occurred in this particular situation is rare so it's not like the PL list will be over run with PIF members.