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Marvel Zombie
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I didn't see them mention tape, but of course before the old feedback disappeared, they were well known as one of the more whackadoo sellers. After one incident with them, I avoided them. I think there was a thread years ago.
I would not be surprised if the buyer did not know there was tape. Not even a scan on a $15k+ book, and no picture of the label unless I missed it? The Negs they left were even worse.
When it comes to conflict resolution, he's amazingly civil with his words.
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Comic Connect "Bob Kane file copy" up to $12, 209, with reserve not met,
http://www.comicconnect.com/bookDetail.php?id=566830
Why doesn't that label say the book has been trimmed ?
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Is trimmed still a dealbreaker? a three side trimmed resto tec 27 went for 140 K recently?
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you think it should be higher or lower?Amazing how CGC has helped to raise demand and FMV of cover driven books.Where did Tec #31 rank on the top GA books list in the late 1990's, prior to CGC?
OSPG 29 (1999) - ranked 22nd
OSPG 30 (2000) - ranked 21st
Really shocked where TEC 31 stands in the ranks and the recent price movements.
The current OSPG listed it as the top 9th. Since it's been selling for more than Marvel Comics 1 and All American 16th in the same grade, it stands at 7th. Time will tell if the trends continues.
your sig line betrays the bias ...
and now a Bat #1. so you have Both ... Id be dahmmnedd
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you think it should be higher or lower?Amazing how CGC has helped to raise demand and FMV of cover driven books.Where did Tec #31 rank on the top GA books list in the late 1990's, prior to CGC?
OSPG 29 (1999) - ranked 22nd
OSPG 30 (2000) - ranked 21st
Really shocked where TEC 31 stands in the ranks and the recent price movements.
The current OSPG listed it as the top 9th. Since it's been selling for more than Marvel Comics 1 and All American 16th in the same grade, it stands at 7th. Time will tell if the trends continues.
your sig line betrays the bias ...
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so is this a new GPA for Batman #1 in CGC 2.0 blue label?
sold for $33k
If this sale is legit, it seems like a steal next to the Tec #31 CGC 2.0 that recently sold on Heritage for $34,655.
I understand recent FMV may place the two books close, but in the long run, I don't see them as being anywhere near close.
grade for grade (mid and lower), it appears tec 31's have caught up and surpassed batman 1's
in 2005, a 5.0 tec 31 cost $15K and a 5.0 batman 1 was 25K
in 2009, a 5.0 tec 31 cost $30 K and a 5.0 batman 1 was $40K
in 2011, a 5.0 tec 31 cost $50K and a 5.0 batman 1 was $60K
in 2014
now we have 2.0's (tec 31s) selling for more than same grade bat 1's... seems like a trend that will continue
also, a 6.5 tec 31 has sold for more than 100K, that's about where 7.0 batman 1s are
I doubt that trend will hold up. Bat #1 is so clearly the better book. Its one of the few books that transcend the medium. Tec31 not so much (not yet at least; though its obviously a fantastic book)
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Thanks again guys. Yep, THE Holy grail for me, more so than Action 1. The book was bought from a long time collector. Hoping to buy more of his books in the near future when I recover from this big purchase.
gonna flip it ?
Nope. I don't think I can afford a complete copy, so this is right on my budget.
With a LOT of luck who knows one day you may find a cover to go along with it.
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Thanks again guys. Yep, THE Holy grail for me, more so than Action 1. The book was bought from a long time collector. Hoping to buy more of his books in the near future when I recover from this big purchase.
gonna flip it ?
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tree fiddyI wonder how much a 9.8 would go for
Out of the Al Capone ped ...
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Something to consider regarding Cap #1 is that it has ascended to claim the spot as the most valuable "Marvel" comic book in existence. While the top-graded AF #15 might outsell the top graded Cap #1, the latter is the clear winner in lower grades.
Many of us, myself included, have a love for both Marvel and DC. But there are a lot of people out there who almost exclusively love Marvel. To them, Action #1/Tec #27 doesn't hold a ton of luster because they're genuinely not into DC books or characters.
So for those "Marvel Zombies" out there -- Cap #1 is the absolute pinnacle of comic collecting. Being the most valuable book, of the undisputed No. 1 company, leaves a lot of room for growth. Recently, we've seen the rise in prices reflect this accordingly.
But given the factors stated above and considering the distance Cap #1 still has from the top DC books, I wouldn't be surprised to see this book ascend even further.
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In celebrating The Batman's 75th anniversary, I am proud and honored to show you guys my holy grail (coverless but complete)
What the F....
is that "the one"? *the* holy grail ...
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WHOA ... a cap 1 club ! great idea
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of course!Gotcha. I think a blue 1.0 is better than a 8.0 extensive resto
All extensives are far from created equally ...
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I rarely venture in to CG for sanity reasons....Hey gator we sure could use you over there in that "comic books as investment" thread in comics general. Care to slum it a little for a post or two with your input ?-J.
what is the issue?
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Fa Chri's sake: a three side trimmed book just sold for 140K at CC ...
Exceptions to every rule. Unless you know the buyer of the cc copy (I would hazard a guess that this person is exception to the rule and that that result won't be duplicated any time soon) the fact still remains that the majority of collectors dislike trimming...a lot.
Obviously amateur "scissor jobs" and chopped books are frowned upon but actually quite a few books a more like *micro trim*.
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Fa Chri's sake: a three side trimmed book just sold for 140K at CC ...
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why thank you billI find nearly as many GA collectors younger, many much younger, than I am collecting GA as I do folks my age or older(thumbs u
I'm going to "ask bill" in "ask gator's" thread
...Bill, other than the Action 1-10 run from the ole lady around the corner, did any other major books walk in through your doors at More Fun?
We had lots of great collections come into the store, but not that included major GA keys. Every SA key came in numerous times. Sometimes multiples at a time.
GA collections would come in from time to time, but mostly non key issues. A Superboy #1 would be about the next level that walked in with an original owner.
We bought lots of keys from collectors, so that any time you came in the store you were likely to have your pick of numerous GA key books. Cap 1, Supey 1, Batman 1, Tec 27, MF 52, etc
when was that?
pre 1970 ... ?
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OK, I got a GA book.
Label says: pieces added
Grader notes say: piece added
To which document should I concur on an eventuel resale ?
I would print out graders notes and let that accompany a sale
but, which of the two descriptions can I put my trust in ?
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OK, I got a GA book.
Label says: pieces added
Grader notes say: piece added
To which document should I concur on an eventuel resale ?
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172/137 respectively...quite "shocking" to me, in all honestyRickMaybe I missed where these final prices were discussed, but what were the final hammer prices for the restored Action 1 and Tec 27 in CC auction (Wise)
Thanks,
FISH
I'm beyond shocked, but can't say I'm "unhappy" ..............
As much as I'd like to be happy too, I would consider them outlier sales at this point, until we can get some duplication in the market
Wasnt there a plod tec27 9.2 that sold recently in the 150K range.
To which extend can that be considered a duplication?
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now trimmed vs universal, then likely at least a 50% drop and many times much more of a drop...I concur with you there (thumbs u
its not noted as "cover" trimmed, but "edges"...that typically means interior book trimmed too...
the A1 should kill a 3 sided trimmed tec27... if both were equal grades,the A1 would still win (imo)Wise is also selling a copy of Action Comics No. 1, which is the debut of Superman and is considered the birth of the comic book super hero. A well-preserved copy of the 1938 comic sold for a record $2.1 million in 2011. Zurzolo said there are fewer than 100 copies of the issue in existence.Misquote or does he really believe it? Agree or disagree?
Which one will go highest tonight? A1 or T27 ...
Considered how the T27 in question actually fills out the inner well in a "normal" way, it must be micro-micro trim.
The C-cnect Action 1 (mod 7.0) was clearly the better book relative to the triple trimmed tec27 (mod 8.0).
Yet they roughly hammered out at 140K and 170K, with "only" a 30K margin. What does that indicate to you as regards the reciprocal strength of the big two?
Is action still a hair above when this sale is considered?
The action closed about 50k higher than anticipated and the Tec about 40k higher. Both books are strong but action 1 is still king.
If one observes the price diff (between trimmed/untrimmed) in any "generic" sense, it is save to say that the Tec27 in question if UN-trimmed, would not only have surpassed the action1. It would probably have killed it pricewise.
I would disagree. While obviously the trimming turns off some bidders, in this case it didn't turn off the two that mattered.
Action 1 has outperformed Tec 27 in almost every instance. Nothing has happened to change that (IMO)
I say this as someone that has bought and sold dozens of action 1s and Tec 27 over last few years. While neither is tough to sell, action 1 is easier, in more demand, sells faster and that is the market dictating
I respectfully hear where youre comming from. But: doesnt trimmed vs. un-trimmed usually detract 50% from blue FMV? Thats also the market dictating.
but with restored, there is no set % that I am aware of...I have seen trimmed restored books sell for more than untrimmed restored in a rare occasion (such as this)... there are too many factors with restored copies to establish with any certainty, a %, etc......
Thanks for your answer Rick.
And remember: when you answer this post you are 1 post away from 50K of entries. WAY TO GO ...
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its not noted as "cover" trimmed, but "edges"...that typically means interior book trimmed too...
the A1 should kill a 3 sided trimmed tec27... if both were equal grades,the A1 would still win (imo)Wise is also selling a copy of Action Comics No. 1, which is the debut of Superman and is considered the birth of the comic book super hero. A well-preserved copy of the 1938 comic sold for a record $2.1 million in 2011. Zurzolo said there are fewer than 100 copies of the issue in existence.Misquote or does he really believe it? Agree or disagree?
Which one will go highest tonight? A1 or T27 ...
Considered how the T27 in question actually fills out the inner well in a "normal" way, it must be micro-micro trim.
The C-cnect Action 1 (mod 7.0) was clearly the better book relative to the triple trimmed tec27 (mod 8.0).
Yet they roughly hammered out at 140K and 170K, with "only" a 30K margin. What does that indicate to you as regards the reciprocal strength of the big two?
Is action still a hair above when this sale is considered?
The action closed about 50k higher than anticipated and the Tec about 40k higher. Both books are strong but action 1 is still king.
If one observes the price diff (between trimmed/untrimmed) in any "generic" sense, it is save to say that the Tec27 in question if UN-trimmed, would not only have surpassed the action1. It would probably have killed it pricewise.
I would disagree. While obviously the trimming turns off some bidders, in this case it didn't turn off the two that mattered.
Action 1 has outperformed Tec 27 in almost every instance. Nothing has happened to change that (IMO)
I say this as someone that has bought and sold dozens of action 1s and Tec 27 over last few years. While neither is tough to sell, action 1 is easier, in more demand, sells faster and that is the market dictating
I respectfully hear where youre comming from. But: doesnt trimmed vs. un-trimmed usually detract 50% from blue FMV? Thats also the market dictating.
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its not noted as "cover" trimmed, but "edges"...that typically means interior book trimmed too...
the A1 should kill a 3 sided trimmed tec27... if both were equal grades,the A1 would still win (imo)Wise is also selling a copy of Action Comics No. 1, which is the debut of Superman and is considered the birth of the comic book super hero. A well-preserved copy of the 1938 comic sold for a record $2.1 million in 2011. Zurzolo said there are fewer than 100 copies of the issue in existence.Misquote or does he really believe it? Agree or disagree?
Which one will go highest tonight? A1 or T27 ...
Considered how the T27 in question actually fills out the inner well in a "normal" way, it must be micro-micro trim.
The C-cnect Action 1 (mod 7.0) was clearly the better book relative to the triple trimmed tec27 (mod 8.0).
Yet they roughly hammered out at 140K and 170K, with "only" a 30K margin. What does that indicate to you as regards the reciprocal strength of the big two?
Is action still a hair above when this sale is considered?
The action closed about 50k higher than anticipated and the Tec about 40k higher. Both books are strong but action 1 is still king.
If one observes the price diff (between trimmed/untrimmed) in any "generic" sense, it is save to say that the Tec27 in question if UN-trimmed, would not only have surpassed the action1. It would probably have killed it pricewise.
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its not noted as "cover" trimmed, but "edges"...that typically means interior book trimmed too...
the A1 should kill a 3 sided trimmed tec27... if both were equal grades,the A1 would still win (imo)Wise is also selling a copy of Action Comics No. 1, which is the debut of Superman and is considered the birth of the comic book super hero. A well-preserved copy of the 1938 comic sold for a record $2.1 million in 2011. Zurzolo said there are fewer than 100 copies of the issue in existence.Misquote or does he really believe it? Agree or disagree?
Which one will go highest tonight? A1 or T27 ...
Considered how the T27 in question actually fills out the inner well in a "normal" way, it must be micro-micro trim.
The C-cnect Action 1 (mod 7.0) was clearly the better book relative to the triple trimmed tec27 (mod 8.0).
Yet they roughly hammered out at 140K and 170K, with "only" a 30K margin. What does that indicate to you as regards the reciprocal strength of the big two?
Is action still a hair above when this sale is considered?
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the A1 should kill a 3 sided trimmed tec27... if both were equal grades,the A1 would still win (imo)Wise is also selling a copy of Action Comics No. 1, which is the debut of Superman and is considered the birth of the comic book super hero. A well-preserved copy of the 1938 comic sold for a record $2.1 million in 2011. Zurzolo said there are fewer than 100 copies of the issue in existence.Misquote or does he really believe it? Agree or disagree?
Which one will go highest tonight? A1 or T27 ...
Considered how the T27 in question actually fills out the inner well in a "normal" way, it must be micro-micro trim.
Batman #1 Club
in Golden Age Comic Books
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Yes as the original file copy the book is oozing a Kane aura. All things considered the bottom line is: Kane created the Batman.