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Marvel Zombie
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I think it proves the price of admission to the Bat 1 Club is 10k at minimum.
That seems to be the direction the market is headed, if it hasn't reached that point already.
Throw out the entry .5 and the uber high grades, 8.5 higher, in the middle area, looks about 14K a point, less if the book is skanky, and more, if the book has great eye appeal, IMHO
Agreed. Entry-level 0.5's are approaching 10K per-ticket, and higher graded copies do not come cheap.
In retrospect, I think the 9.2 auctioned off by Heritage was a bargain at $567,625.
It was an absolutely beautiful copy.
With the HG moderately restored Bat #1 going on ebay for +75K, the blue 9.2 certainly looks like a bargain at 570K
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Has anybody else seen the Batman #1 parts floating around eBay this week?
I'm not sure whether the idea of splitting up a (basically) complete book into three auctions is genius or insane.
On one hand, it might encourage a bidding war on a specific piece that someone is missing.
On the other hand, it may discourage bidders who want all of it and are worried they may win some but not all of it.
Thoughts?
ethically: insane
from a moolah POV: genious
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Shew...did everyone see that AF15 9.0 went for 191k on Heritage Auctions? Oh my!
In 10 years it will probably be a 250-300K book
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Anybody got a BC scan on the Bat1 ?
Its getting harder and garder to obtain these from C-link imho.
You can see the back-cover of Batman #1 in this listing:
I was referring to the BC of the 4.0 copy in question
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I might rewrite this five times just tonight.
1. Detective Comics #27
2, Batman #1
3. Action Comics #1
4. Superman #1
5. Captain America Comics #1
6. All Star #8
7. Whiz Comics #2 (#1)
8. Planet Comics #1
9. Detective Comics #31
10. Detective Comics #33
Thats a really good list imho !
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Anybody got a BC scan on the Bat1 ?
Its getting harder and garder to obtain these from C-link imho.
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Well the Sparkle City .5 didn't hit $10,000
Did anyone honestly think it would?
-J.
I am actually amazed at how high it did close. It was a beyond ugly copy and incomplete to boot.
+1. It petered out at just under the highest I thought it might go for, though I am a bit surprised it even broke 8k with such poor eye appeal. Looking forward to that 4 on comic link now. Any thoughts on FMV on that one?
-J.
I would guess in the $35k to $40k but given how high prices have been, maybe I am low
That would be a smoking deal at those prices, I know for a fact certain buyers going to bid in the 55K area. 14K a point, with better eye appeal is the current market, IMHO
Hmmm ... at 44 K, 12 days to go.
I am already blown out of the water by bigger whales.
My thrill bid didnt last long ...
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correct. $55k-$65k will be the range once the firing has ceased and the smoke clearsWell the Sparkle City .5 didn't hit $10,000Did anyone honestly think it would?
-J.
I am actually amazed at how high it did close. It was a beyond ugly copy and incomplete to boot.
+1. It petered out at just under the highest I thought it might go for, though I am a bit surprised it even broke 8k with such poor eye appeal. Looking forward to that 4 on comic link now. Any thoughts on FMV on that one?
-J.
I would guess in the $35k to $40k but given how high prices have been, maybe I am low
That would be a smoking deal at those prices, I know for a fact certain buyers going to bid in the 55K area. 14K a point, with better eye appeal is the current market, IMHO
Its when the fire has ceased and the smoke cleared that the flippers move in for the snipe ... -
If I had the mullah I would choose:
1. Bat 1
2. Bat 1
3. Bat 1
4. Bat 1
5. Bat 1
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aspartame and acesulfame potassium
of course. He's currently not sure how many coke zeros he's already drank in the big easyHas GAtor ever responded, "I don't know" ?
Coke Zero - isnt it filled with artificial sweetener ... ?
Yummers.
Do me a favour: Dont do this aspartame thing. Ordinary sugar will do it for you just fine. ASpartame =
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Well if someone feel they need an affordable 'blue chip' Bat #1, complete with a frontcover. 10K could very well be the entry level figure for the ground floor ...
Pepole always talk about first Joker. But hey guys dont forget Bat 1 has first Catwoman as well. She is a great character. Michelle Pfeiffer did her in one of Burtons movies: fantastic ...
I've said many times that from a content perspective, Batman #1 has no peers.
The historical significance of Action Comics #1 trumps it, but Batman #1 has the best collection of content you'll ever find in a Golden Age comic book.
*1st Batman solo book.
*1st app. of the Joker.
*1st app. of Catwoman.
*Classic cover.
*Final Pre-Robin Tec story.
*2nd app. of Hugo Strange (made famous in Arkham City).
*3rd app. of Robin.
*Origin of Batman reprinted.
When you add the fact that Christopher Nolan used the two Joker stories from the book to help derive his interpretation of Heath Ledger's Joker, you're adding a modern, extremely relevant, extremely cool factor into the mix.
It's tough to top all that.
What he said ...
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of course. He's currently not sure how many coke zeros he's already drank in the big easyHas GAtor ever responded, "I don't know" ?Coke Zero - isnt it filled with artificial sweetener ... ?
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Well if someone feel they need an affordable 'blue chip' Bat #1, complete with a frontcover. 10K could very well be the entry level figure for the ground floor ...
Pepole always talk about first Joker. But hey guys dont forget Bat 1 has first Catwoman as well. She is a great character. Michelle Pfeiffer did her in one of Burtons movies: fantastic ...
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Hmm .... this particular .5 copy it could shiff 12Kish regions. Just a poor mans guesstimate ....
It won't be sniffing my 12K regions.
Well one never knows
: this particular book is the poor man's tec 27 More like "moderately well-to-do man's" Tec 27.
With a low grade copy such as this, there's always the potential to see bids from collectors who view this as their holy grail comic book, especially since Tec #27 is out of most people's price ranges. But no "poor man" is getting close to a Batman #1, the prices are exceedingly strong.
Touché gentlemen.
Bat 1 surely is the rich man's tec 27
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Hmm .... this particular .5 copy it could shiff 12Kish regions. Just a poor mans guesstimate ....
It won't be sniffing my 12K regions.
Well one never knows
: this particular book is the poor man's tec 27 -
Hmm .... this particular .5 copy it could shiff 12Kish regions. Just a poor mans guesstimate ....
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Is that the above mentioned 9.0 ?
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When will my signed, numbered slipcase edition of this book arive. Heck, I pre-paid ...
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Hmm ... no metal fatigue then
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They have been goin north for what seems like an eternity. Is there a pre-robin bubble in the makings?
if so, when will it burst?
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Bill loves it moreI love this book!. In fact, I think of Bill everytime I see a Bat 1. 
And I get all warm and fuzzy everytime I see a Batman #1
The Joker as a character is disturbingly insane:
he seems to be a strange mix of: oldstyle missisippi riverboat gambler, psychopath, sociopath, transvestite, schizophrenic, terrorist, anarchist, anti-christ.
I guess that why the Joker across decades seem to excercise a certain magnetism so that creative heads (like Nolan) keep returning back to him ...
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Hey there Wayne-Tec, you're definitely preaching to the choir about Tec 33. While still clearly a highly sought and expensive book, Tecs 29 and 31 have surpassed it, at least in value, pretty much based on the "coolness" of their covers. I'm not so sure 35 has anymore, at least not after some of this past year's public auction results, and a seeming mini-resurgence of 33. I don't know if Tec 33 is "under rated", but it is probably under valued compared to those other pre-Robin Tecs. I think a lot of collectors have been fine with bypassing Tec 33 and going straight for the Bats 1 because it contains a reprint of that origin story, along with the first appearance of the Joker. But more importantly, I think people dig that #1 on the cover and the fact that it's Batman's first solo title. Put that together with the fact that the vast, vast majority of the collector base will never be able to afford an actual Tec 27, and you have the perfect storm for a highly sought and uber expensive book.
As for me, when I break it down, I do think it would be cool to have that first appearance of the Joker, but not at the low grade price points the book currently sits at, no matter how big of a villain he is. There is no Joker without Batman, and that's just a lot of money to me for a first villain appearance. I would probably feel A LOT differently about it if Tec 33 did not contain the origin story first, and Bats 1 did. Then I would probably gun for the book and might think its current price levels were right on target. But as it stands, Tec 33 contains that first told origin, and that book is really the turning point of the Batman character....where he actually became the Batman, and not just another rip off of the Shadow. The fact that Bats 1 reprints it so soon after the Tec 33 came out only highlights the significance of that. It was also his first 12 page story if I'm not mistaken. It is by this same logic, by the way, that I don't see any reason to spend big bucks on an ASM 1, when there's already an AF 15 in my collection, and I'm not going to want to spend $15K or some crazy amount (by SA standards) for the first appearance of the Green Goblin or the Vulture.
Like you said though, everybody has their preferences and priorities in their collection, and if I had unlimited funds I would gladly own both!
-J.
In terms of historical significance, Tec #33 easily eclipses Tec #29, 31, 35 and all others sans 27. I think the cover is nearly as cool as any other Pre-Robin out there, but obviously it is the origin that makes it special. I love the combination of the Tec #34 splash artwork with the reprinted origin story from Tec #33 found in Batman #1.
The comparison between the Joker's first appearance and the Green Goblin's though, is not equivalent. Unlike Batman, Spiderman does not have a clear-cut arch nemesis. The Green Goblin, Doc Ock and Venom can all be considered, as all have been the Spidey villain at various points in time.
The Joker has always been Batman's arch nemesis with no close second. Batman #1 would sell itself without the Joker even being present. Superman #1 is the third most valuable book in the hobby, and outside of a brief, unnamed cameo of "The Kents", there are no notable first appearances of any kind in Superman #1.
None of Spiderman's villains are as big in the Marvel Universe as the Joker is in the DC Universe. So the combination of factors: 1st Batman solo book, 1st app. of the Joker, 1st app. of Catwoman, last Pre-Robin Tec story, classic cover, etc. really drive Batman #1 to a special place. While there are a number of GA books that are currently treasured for factors the likes of rarity, cool covers, etc. -- I believe a day will come when collectors look at all of the content Batman #1 has to over and in turn, value it even more so for reasons beyond the "No. 1" on the cover. (thumbs u
well said !
all things considered Bat1 seem to "outshine" Supe1 ... even when you consider the rarity of supe1
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But my brain can wrap itself around the AF 15 prices a little bit more easily given that it's the first appearance of Marvel's all time biggest superhero. Bats 1 is definitely a pricey book considering that it's basically only the first appearance of a couple of villains. Even if one of them is the Joker.
This subject has come up before. I have a few thoughts on it.
While rarity no doubt can play a factor in driving up the prices of certain GA books, a book does not need to be incredibly rare by GA standards to maintain an extremely high value, with the potential to trend upwards.
Lets compare Batman #1 to Action #7 for instance.
Both are incredibly desirable, but Action #7 is considerably more rare. Content for content, there is no competition:
Batman #1
1st app. of the Joker.
1st app. of Catwoman.
2nd app. of the Joker.
2nd app. of Hugo Strange.
3rd app. of Robin.
Last Pre-Robin Tec story.
Action Comics #7
7th app. of Superman.
Circus story.
One book's content was used as reference material by Christopher Nolan for one of the most successful films in the history of modern cinema, the latter sports a really cool cover.
Adding my .02. I think the Joker is DC's third biggest character behind Supes and Bats.
I find this to be my stance on the Jokester as well
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Edit the master list. Sold the 8.5 and upgraded:
VERY nice book
Holy sh ....
At that grade we're talking serious dough
Its when the fire has ceased and the smoke cleared that the flippers move in for the snipe ... 
Batman #1 Club
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this books is rapidly approaching a sadistically tough entry level ...