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Entirely possible. It's multiples of a quality panel page and we know where those are. The only limiting factor is the ink-work, as I said, it's high quality ink work but there are certain artists who obtain a premium for their inks over their pencils. Given how much lesser quality from other artist and titles we see regularly going for $20-30-40 thousand, it will be whatever the top two bidders feel like paying.

Using an arbitrary percentage of net worth to determine what you keep in your collection is something that I think is counterproductive both financially and spiritually. The better questions are: Do I have a better plan for the funds created by removing pieces from my collection? Am I removing something that will bother me if I am never able to replace it with something comparable? Does my family need the money from the sale? etc. Because, if you're pulling and selling art to get below a magic percentage you could wind up costing yourself in money and enjoyment. If someone would have slashed and burned their collection to amass cash in 2019....they'd likely be on suicide watch seeing what's happened to the value of those pieces and their cost of replacement today. They would NOT have beaten those returns in any other traditional investment most likely and they would be out the pieces, probably permanently when the price escalation is factored in. Someone's personal cash position, combined with their investment position, and taking into account their true cost basis for their art collection (dollars in vs. out vs. net cost of pieces retained) is probably a better way to get comfortable. I've been collecting a long time. Nearly 30 years. Somewhere around 2010 I got the net $0 cost of the pieces in my collection. Since then I've bought and sold and mostly retained artwork instead of letting it go. As my personal net worth grew (outside of artwork) I had less reason to cull pieces for cash or to simply invest elsewhere. At present for the pieces I own, I am probably in at about 4-5% of their total current worth in total cash outlay. I've gotten some bananas offers for some of my pieces but, at the end of the day, I'll be moving something I love to put cash into something that's likely to underperform the artwork at best or provide me dramatically less joy at worst. I wouldn't use a percentage of net worth approach unless there's some massive debt or future cost nut on the horizon that needs covering and there's no other way to do it.

The covers are great, and those are all Bolland pencil and ink work. So, the covers stand apart for valuation purposes from the interiors, all inked by others, and less of the normal logic and reasoning we use to compare panel page, to splash, to cover, exists in this case. Good pages are $2k-3500. Great panel pages have hit $5k. I would expect this to easily hit a multiple of those numbers. It's got all the characters you want, it's laid out like a cover and even if it's $10k-20k it's a fraction of what a comparable cover from the run would cost you today.

Oh yeah. If there was ever a Bolland piece, inked by someone other than himself, that would go for a massive premium we're looking at it.

Less than #3 would.

Among the offerings... The IG page that includes this panel which led Thanos to create Tinder.

For some pages, if he was working out posing, sequencing, small details he would create several prelims, in increasing levels of detail until he was satisfied and there would be a final most details prelim. In some cases he did just the one, but I've seen a couple of pages with three. They are easy to tell from one another, usually on level of detail alone.

Seed of Destruction continues to be the peak of everyone's Mignola want list.

Agreed. Glad I picked up a DD/Bullseye page from the run before this.

Depends on how you look at it. You guessed $80k+ for the three and they went for $91k. Sounds like you hit it pretty good.

If one cover from that run was going to pop in big way, it was this one.

Aside from the bidders at the end not many did.

Some serious blood-sport fighting today and strong to record prices....

Is there any way we can discover who is it that keeps slow rolling their bids to "last and final call" and making so many pieces take forever to finish? I'd like to know that.

Some head scratchers today. Hard to figure what's going on with some pieces. It's almost like collecting artwork has become a...

My only takeaway from this is that there's NO WAY you're 63. This is a typo right? You're a kid. A KID.

I've owned several Bolland prelims. I don't think they are on translucent vellum (tracing paper) at least not what I've always known as tracing paper. I'll have to look at the ones I still have. They weren't even on the type of vellum artists like Romita used to create covers for Marvel. I've owned those too. Now you have me curious.

I know several artists that create multiple preliminary drawings before going with a final image to finish. A 'prelim' doesn't carry the same connotation as a final piece does for being the "one and only".

I've been eyeing that one too.... 17"x22"...it has to be really impressive in person.

Many graded keys had retreated to their 2021 (or in some cases 2020 ) valuations in recent months, wiping out all gains over 2-3 years. Depending on the buyers time range for analysis, seeing a Hulk 181 selling for 10-12K less than the Q3 2021 sales price and roughly 1/2 the 2022 sales price (on the same selling venue) might seem like the time to buy back in. Had their analysis window been slightly wider in time span it might not have seemed as good a call. But HA seems to get good numbers relative to other platforms for these books consistently. If I had one I'd likely sell through them.

"Nobody Cares about....."

But I was talking about the sale's price difference between them and not the seller's net take. I was comparing this result to, say, the guy who bought a CGC 9.8 Hulk 181 in September of 2022 for $138,000 only to see the last copy sell in December of 2023 for $56,925. Or Giant-Size X-men #1 in 9.8 falling from $72k in late '21 to $25k in late '23. The All-Star looks like a recession beater compared to the bloodbath of Silver and Bronze Age destruction we've been watching unfold.

It's certainly nothing to do backflips over, I agree. But it depends on how you view the overall slabbed book market from 2020 or so to the present. Given how many slab values have eaten themselves since the peaks of 2022 (30-70% dips depending on the book and grade)...10% off the top feels downright resilient in the face of how a lot of comics have performed since that time. This is a relatively quick public flip for a book of that stature. And selling it now, given how underwhelming the slabbed market has been in 2023-now, isn't something I would have advised unless left with no choice.

It’s not a court of law as much as the court of the cgc boards or the court of PayPal claims we are talking about, really. I get what you mean though, about trying to avoid problems before they happen, but most sellers have some form of no return policy….they just all reside inside contract law and if everyone works within the same universe of responsibilities and expectations, everyone knows where they stand and how to do it right and what is wrong. This seller, in this situation, fails to understand his responsibilities..but the buyer had no way of knowing he would be this irresponsible simply from a “no returns” line. The reaction of the buyer, and of this thread, serve two purposes. 1) It informs this board of aberrant seller whose behavior is outside the norm and outside of normal transactional boundaries. 2) it informs the seller (and other sellers perhaps) of the expectations of the boards for transactional responsibility. So, it’s been a valuable thread for those reasons if for no other ones. The community reinforcing expectations is what makes buyers confident in dealing, that everyone understands the terms and language the same way. That “no returns” bears the subtext of , “but for seller’s failure, damage in transit”, etc. If a seller if overt in their defiance of their responsibilities before dealing, avoid…for sure. But otherwise expect sellers to handle their business responsibly. We just need threads like this to make sure everyone knows who has wrong ideas of how to do business against accepted standards and thus who to avoid.