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On 1/29/2019 at 12:31 PM, Bomber-Bob said:

PLease don't take offense from my comment. This seems to happen a lot here and it can get frustrating. Why did you come here asking for advice when you had your mind already set on what you wanted to do ? You ackowledge our suggestions but then say 'Thanks but I'm going to do it my way'. You are already making a rookie mistake by utilizing GoCollect.com for your valuations. Again, I wish you good luck but no more advice from me here. 

GoCollect owner/founder here - Jeff Meyer. I'm no rookie to buying comics. My niche is high-grade, classic GA covers (http://blog.gocollect.com/my-golden-age-comic-collection/). I don't want to even admit how much I've spent over the past few years in public auctions. I still use GPA, but I started GoCollect because GPA has zero transparency. If you trust that one 8.0 is the same as any other 8.0, that's the rookie mistake. If you want to see where a book sold and link to it so that you can investigate pictures.... now you're truly utilizing the value of GoCollect. And if you want to do a search for a book using an actual number... GC will get you there faster.... and if you want reference pictures... and if you want to easily slice/dice lists... and if you want to look up CGC cert numbers with friendly output... and if you want to model your own values... and if you want to see sales of "the other grading team"... and if you want... I could go on and on for how GoCollect offers a great supplement and/or replacement to GPA. Full disclosure, I use GPA myself. I circle back to it when I'm curious to see if they might display some sales that GC doesn't have listed. GC currently tracks sale links back to eBay, Hake's, ComicConnect, ComicLink and Heritage.

That said, if all you've done is analyze GoCollect using the FMV values... you haven't experienced all it has to offer. At which point I can understand your position.

On 1/29/2019 at 1:03 PM, thunsicker said:

I disagree.  Though GoCollect doesn’t have as much or varied sources as GPA, it’s not like he used comicspriceguide.com or something.  

Thanks Tim

Rick is a class act all the way. Our first transaction was 5 figures and I couldn't be happier with my purchase. Thanks!

19 hours ago, Ricksneatstuff said:

Catman Comics 31- CGC 6.5- $1950

One of the very best LB Cole covers. Will miss this one. 

 

On 12/15/2018 at 4:58 PM, jimbo_7071 said:

On 12/20/2018 at 8:54 PM, KirbyJack said:

The Hypnosis ad is so wrong.

Didn’t just show a girl, they felt compelled to add a couch.

Couldn't agree more. BUT who's hypnotizing who here? He looks like the one that's about to start clucking like a chicken  BTW - is that a bracelet she has on or did bondage covers make it to the backs too?

7 hours ago, adamstrange said:

Part of me wishes these were all still together... in a museum somewhere that I could take a trip to every so often to take pictures and do research. Edgar's passion was (in my mind) the best thing that ever happened to the GA slice of this hobby. I JUST WANT TO DIVE INTO THOSE PILES!

14 hours ago, KirbyJack said:

I don’t own one, but All-Winners 2 has an interesting BC.

Thanks to ComicConnect: https://www.comicconnect.com/bookDetail.php?id=744129

GREAT topic! I'm a big fan of the back covers. I get a cheap thrill from a few things on back covers - I'm pretty easy to please

1. Pretending I'm a kid in the 40's in awe of what I could possibly order (microscope - the colors in person make we want to send away today)
2. Pretending I'm a kid in the 40's in general (Baby Ruth ad just feels so damn wholesome) (Dynamic Comics #22 pictured below)
3. Well drawn/colored ads for other books and/or characters (Catman #13 pictured below)

Trend in that graphic is for sale prices.

This has been bugging me since receiving my latest invoice from the last auction. The book below could cost some folks $935 more than what I ended up with as the final hammer ($13,800).

Backstory: I recently moved from IL to NC. I didn't yet have my NC sales tax number on file with Heritage, but I had changed my address to receive catalogs. I got my invoice and it had an additional $935 for sales tax. Since I use my own system, I saw this book pop up on my GoCollect watch list and it hit me... we have no idea who does and does not pay sales tax. I checked my GPA account and apparently they don't either.

Here's the thing - I would have paid a few grand more for this book, so if the confusion of the sales tax didn't flesh out, I would just pay it. But then the world would think I paid $13,800 instead of $14,735... that's pretty significant difference! And even though I have no intentions of selling any time soon, I'm well aware that the price I paid will be a consideration to the next buyer.... whenever that day may come.

Most of us use past sales history to determine the prices we're willing to pay at these auctions. And Heritage is a special player in that they get great GA inventory and generally command top prices (at least for the stuff I hunt down). All while charing a lot of folks sales tax now.

So, is it possible that by not factoring sales tax into sale history that we're artificially keeping valuations down?

Part of me thinks "Phew! Please keep them as low as possible!" but that doesn't feel good for the hobby as a whole. Or who knows - maybe we all have sales tax numbers and it's meaningless.

At the end of the day, I was super happy to land this beauty  I hope the colors pop in-hand as much as they do in the pictures!

Coupon codes for 30 day trials were removed a while back. However, if you try it and don't like it, just contact us through the site and we'll gladly refund your first month payment. Subscription cancellation has no BS attached - you can cancel very easily from either your GoCollect or PayPal account.

The site has had numerous advances since this thread originally launched... some of the original info on the earlier posts here is no longer accurate.

Have a great weekend!

Good gawd! I intentionally stepped away from looking/hunting for the past couple months to focus on a different collectible that has sparked my interest. It's now apparent that I'll be spending more cash next month than I originally anticipated 

Looks like someone threw in the towel on completing a Catman run. I was considering doing the same, but now see some holes there that can be filled. Sheesh! Will it ever end!?! 

1 hour ago, telerites said:

I am curious what Voldy graded the Church copy if you would share that.  I assume also they did notate the ped.

9.2 - they did note the ped

I know the Golden Age comics market pretty well, but unfortunately I'm not familiar with OA.

I recently stumbled upon the complete OA story for Classics Illustrated #73 from 1950. The cover isn't there, but all 44 pages are present. The quality of the art is solid, but it's not the most exciting art.

It looks like single pages sell on the Bay for around a hundred bucks. But I'm curious to know:

1. Is it all all rare to have the complete story?
2. Does having the complete story increase the overall value at all?
3. Any idea of value?

Thanks in advance for any/all help.

- Jeff

4 minutes ago, telerites said:

$113 with 2 on the census

 

Nice! I was tormenting myself for a while trying to complete a Chesler run... never got a chance to pick on of these up. Tough book.

I ran some queries. The bad news is that the footprint we on GoCollect have for GA books with a match to the CGC census is pretty low, but growing daily. And, of course, I don't have a database of Overstreet values, so I used the following criteria relating to past sales...

2.0 >= $200
4.0 >= $400
6.0 >= $600
8.0 >= $1500
9.0 >= $2500

Below is the list I came up with where total population (not just Universal) was 10 copies or less that had been sold in in the grades/prices outlined above. I'd imagine this is substantially less than the applicable population, but should provide some fun...

Ace Comics #26 (5/39) 7 Graded
Action Comics #128 (1/49) 7 Graded
Action Comics #149 (10/50) 10 Graded
Adventure Comics #111 (12/46) 8 Graded
Adventure Comics #122 (11/47) 10 Graded
Adventures Into Terror #27 (1/54) 5 Graded
Adventures into Darkness #8 (2/53) 5 Graded
Adventures into Darkness #9 (4/53) 6 Graded
All New Comics #11 (Spring 1) 10 Graded
All Top Comics #18 (7/49) 10 Graded
All-American Comics #2 (5/39) 10 Graded
All-American Comics #6 (9/39) 10 Graded
All-American Comics #13 (4/40) 6 Graded
All-American Comics #32 (11/41) 8 Graded
All-American Comics #43 (10/42) 10 Graded
All-American Comics #55 (1/44) 10 Graded
All-American Comics #91 (11/47) 9 Graded
Amazing Ghost Stories #14 (10/54) 10 Graded
Amazing Mystery Funnies #v3 #1 (1/40) 6 Graded
America's Best Comics #3 (11/42) 10 Graded
Annie Oakley #2 (7/48) 7 Graded
Annie Oakley #3 (9/48) 9 Graded
Archie Your Official Store Club Magazine #nn (11/48) 2 Graded
Beware #11 (8/52) 8 Graded
Beware #14 (#2) (3/53) 7 Graded
Blue Beetle #6 (3-4/41) 8 Graded
Book of Love #nn (1950) 2 Graded
Boy Comics #9 (4/43) 5 Graded
Boy Comics #16 (6/44) 7 Graded
Cannonball Comics #2 (3/45) 9 Graded
Captain Aero Comics #9 (11/42) 7 Graded
Champ Comics #14 (7/41) 6 Graded
Champ Comics #22 (9/42) 8 Graded
Circus the Comic Riot #2 (7/38) 10 Graded
Classic Comics #15 (11/43) 5 Graded
Classic Comics Presents George Daynor #nn (1952) 6 Graded
Commando Comics #5 (No Date) 4 Graded
Confessions of Love #11 (7/52) 4 Graded
Confessions of the Lovelorn #52 (8/54) 4 Graded
Confessions of the Lovelorn #53 (9-10/54) 2 Graded
Contact Comics #1 (7/44) 5 Graded
Cowgirl Romances #9 (1952) 7 Graded
Crack Comics #3 (7/40) 6 Graded
Crack Comics #9 (1/41) 4 Graded
Crash Comics #2 (6/40) 10 Graded
Crash Comics #3 (7/40) 6 Graded
Crime Mysteries #10 (11/53) 4 Graded
Crime Mysteries #15 (9/54) 7 Graded
Criminals on the Run #v4 #4 (12/48-1/) 4 Graded
Cyclone Comics #3 (8/40) 8 Graded
Dark Mysteries #4 (12/51-1/) 8 Graded
Dark Mysteries #17 (4/54) 10 Graded
Della Vision #1 (4/55) 3 Graded
Della Vision #3 (8/55) 2 Graded
Detective Comics #43 (9/40) 1 Graded
Detective Picture Stories #4 (3/37) 8 Graded
Diary Secrets #13 (8/52) 7 Graded
Diary Secrets #29 (5/55) 8 Graded
Dizzy Dames #2 (11-12/52) 1 Graded
Donald Duck #nn (1938) 10 Graded
Double Comics #1940 (1940) 6 Graded
Double Comics #1942 (1942) 4 Graded
Dynamic Comics #14 (4/45) 6 Graded
Eerie #14 (1-2/54) 5 Graded
Eerie #17 (8-9/54) 6 Graded
Exciting Comics #43 (1/46) 9 Graded
Famous Funnies #8 (3/35) 10 Graded
Famous Funnies #14 (9/35) 9 Graded
Feature Book #25 (1941) 6 Graded
Feature Comics #30 (3/40) 4 Graded
Fight Comics #7 (7/40) 10 Graded
Fight Comics #12 (4/41) 9 Graded
Four Color #2 (1942) 4 Graded
Four Color Comics (Series 1) #8 (1940) 9 Graded
Four Favorites #13 (2/44) 8 Graded
Four Favorites #27 (1/47) 9 Graded
Frankenstein #20 (8-9/52) 10 Graded
Funny Pages #8 (2/37) 8 Graded
Funny Pages #10 (4/37) 7 Graded
Future Comics #2 (7/40) 7 Graded
G.I. Jane #2 (7/53) 1 Graded
G.I. Joe #35 (7/54) 3 Graded
Gay Comics #22 (Winter 1) 4 Graded
Gay Comics #32 (6/48) 3 Graded
Georgie Comics #25 (2/50) 9 Graded
Ghostly Weird Stories #123 (6/54) 9 Graded
Green Hornet Comics #4 (5/41) 10 Graded
Green Mask #8 (12/41) 6 Graded
Green Mask #9 (2/42) 1 Graded
Haunted Thrills #3 (10/52) 9 Graded
Haunted Thrills #18 (11/54) 6 Graded
Headline Comics #3 (4/43) 2 Graded
Hedy De Vine Comics #22 (8/47) 2 Graded
Hedy De Vine Comics #25 (2/48) 3 Graded
Hedy De Vine Comics #26 (4/48) 6 Graded
Is This Tomorrow #nn (1947) 8 Graded
Joke Comics #23 (3-4/42) 1 Graded
Joker Comics #2 (6/42) 10 Graded
Journey Into Fear #16 (11/53) 4 Graded
Journey Into Unknown Worlds #38 (#3) (2/51) 10 Graded
Jumbo Comics #35 (1/42) 5 Graded
Jumbo Comics #162 (8/52) 6 Graded
Jungle Comics #4 (4/40) 10 Graded
Jungle Comics #17 (5/41) 8 Graded
Jungle Comics #36 (12/42) 6 Graded
Junior Hopp Comics #3 (7/52) 1 Graded
Keen Detective Funnies #v2 #12 (12/39) 10 Graded
Keen Detective Funnies #19 (4/40) 6 Graded
Liberty Scouts Comics #3 (8/41) 9 Graded
Love Journal #10 (10/51) 6 Graded
Magic Comics #2 (9/39) 4 Graded
Marvel Mystery Comics #87 (8/48) 3 Graded
Marvel Tales #121 (3/54) 10 Graded
Mary Marvel Comics #21 (2/48) 6 Graded
Master Comics #13 (4/41) 10 Graded
Men's Adventures #26 (3/54) 9 Graded
Millie the Model #13 (8/48) 7 Graded
Millie the Model #20 (10/49) 6 Graded
Millie the Model #25 (11/50) 3 Graded
Millie the Model #27 (3/51) 1 Graded
Millie the Model #31 (11/51) 6 Graded
Millie the Model #33 (3/52) 2 Graded
Millie the Model #36 (9/52) 1 Graded
Millie the Model #48 (11/53) 2 Graded
Millie the Model #55 (8/54) 2 Graded
Minute Man #1 (Summer 1) 8 Graded
More Fun Comics #35 (9/38) 10 Graded
More Fun Comics #39 (1/39) 10 Graded
More Fun Comics #50 (12/39) 10 Graded
My Friend Irma #3 (6/50) 6 Graded
My Girl Pearl #2 (6/55) 2 Graded
My Girl Pearl #3 (8/55) 5 Graded
My Girl Pearl #4 (10/55) 2 Graded
My Love Life #9 (12/49) 1 Graded
Mysteries #5 (1/54) 7 Graded
Mystery Men Comics #28 (11/41) 5 Graded
Mystic #24 (10/53) 8 Graded
National Comics #3 (9/40) 9 Graded
National Comics #17 (11/41) 9 Graded
Nightmare #1 (Summer 1) 10 Graded
Old Glory Comics #nn (1941) 1 Graded
Our Flag Comics #5 (4/42) 4 Graded
Out of the Night #7 (2-3/53) 9 Graded
Out of the Shadows #9 (7/53) 8 Graded
Out of the Shadows #12 (3/54) 4 Graded
Pep Comics #13 (3/41) 4 Graded
Pep Comics #21 (11/41) 8 Graded
Pep Comics #49 (6/44) 2 Graded
Pep Comics #58 (9/46) 8 Graded
Pictorial Romances #15 (9/52) 8 Graded
Pictorial Romances #20 (7/53) 9 Graded
Pictorial Romances #21 (9/53) 3 Graded
Pictorial Romances #23 (1/54) 2 Graded
Police Comics #13 (11/42) 9 Graded
Popular Teen-Agers #11 (4/52) 6 Graded
Popular Teen-Agers #15 (1/53) 5 Graded
Prison Break #1 (9/51) 8 Graded
Prize Comics #18 (1/42) 10 Graded
Prize Comics #28 (2/43) 9 Graded
Prize Comics #39 (2/44) 8 Graded
Prize Comics #43 (7/44) 6 Graded
Punch Comics #2 (2/42) 7 Graded
Red Dragon Comics #1 (11/47) 10 Graded
Red Dragon Comics #6 (3/43) 9 Graded
Samson #2 (12/40-1/) 8 Graded
Samson #5 (5/41) 10 Graded
Science Comics #8 (9/40) 10 Graded
Sensation Comics #80 (8/48) 7 Graded
Sensation Comics #93 (9-10/49) 7 Graded
Sensation Comics #98 (7-8/50) 9 Graded
Shadow Comics #3 (5/40) 8 Graded
Shadow Comics #7 (11/40) 10 Graded
Silver Streak Comics #17 (12/41) 9 Graded
Slick Chick Comics #2 (1947) 3 Graded
Smash Comics #17 (12/40) 6 Graded
Special Edition #5 (1944) 3 Graded
Spook #23 (3/53) 10 Graded
Spook #25 (7/53) 10 Graded
Spook #29 (7/54) 6 Graded
Star Ranger #11 (4/38) 3 Graded
Starlet O'Hara in Hollywood #3 (6/49) 4 Graded
Startling Terror Tales #12 (10/52) 9 Graded
Strange Mysteries #11 (5/53) 6 Graded
Super Comics #v2 #2 (1943) 10 Graded
Super Comics #v2 #5 (1944) 6 Graded
Super Magician Comics #v2 #3 (7/43) 7 Graded
Super-Mystery Comics #v4 #2 (4/44) 6 Graded
Super-Mystery Comics #v5 #1 (7/45) 7 Graded
Superman's Pal Jimmy Olsen #4 (3-4/55) 9 Graded
Tales of Horror #7 (10/53) 7 Graded
Target Comics #2 (3/40) 10 Graded
Target Comics #9 (10/40) 8 Graded
Teen-Age Diary Secrets #6 (10/49) 9 Graded
Teen-Age Romances #22 (6/52) 7 Graded
Teen-Age Romances #25 (9/52) 5 Graded
Teen-Age Romances #39 (9/54) 9 Graded
The Thing #13 (4/54) 2 Graded
The United States Marines #3 (1944) 9 Graded
This Magazine is Haunted #15 (2/54) 8 Graded
Thrilling Comics #9 (10/40) 9 Graded
Thrilling Comics #13 (2/41) 8 Graded
Top Love Stories #5 (11/51) 4 Graded
Top-Notch Comics #11 (1/41) 7 Graded
Top-Notch Comics #20 (10/41) 9 Graded
Top-Notch Comics #28 (7/42) 3 Graded
Tormented #1 (7/54) 8 Graded
True Love Pictorial #5 (2/50) 4 Graded
True-To-Life Romances #23 (10/54) 2 Graded
Underworld #4 (8-9/48) 3 Graded
Unseen #12 (11/53) 5 Graded
Voodoo #10 (7/53) 4 Graded
Wambi, Jungle Boy #1 (Spring 1) 6 Graded
Wartime Romances #5 (3/52) 7 Graded
Wartime Romances #9 (9/52) 5 Graded
Web of Evil #1 (11/52) 8 Graded
Weird Terror #8 (11/53) 10 Graded
Western Picture Stories #2 (3/37) 8 Graded
Whiz Comics #14 (3/41) 10 Graded
Who Is Next? #5 (1/53) 10 Graded
Wonderworld Comics #23 (3/41) 8 Graded
World's Finest Comics #64 (5-6/53) 7 Graded
Wow Comics #10 (2/43) 10 Graded
Zip Comics #5 (6/40) 9 Graded
Zip Comics #24 (3/42) 8 Graded
Zip Comics #46 (5/44) 5 Graded
Zip Comics #47 (Summer 1) 2 Graded

I'd be happy to help here with some simple database queries against both the CGC API and the known sales over the past handful of years. Just need a little clarity...

10 hours ago, Cat-Man_America said:

Let's make this simple: Using current OSG values as the reference point, the minimum value of any 10 or less book in the CGC census has to be $100 in 2.0 (OSG 10 point scale).

Is that all graded copies being 10 or less? Or is it okay to say known Universal graded copies to be 10 or less?

18 hours ago, grube09 said:

Picked up a few in these recent auctions.  Got into a bidding war for the Suspense #11...I would've dropped out earlier, but it was Friday night and liquid courage was in full effect 

 

Love this book - congrats on a great pickup!

7 hours ago, jhm said:

Wow, just Wow. I honestly thought I could be spending six figures this week and ended up with only a single win. I'm a hunter of high grade classic covers and the prices keep shocking me.

Sorry to those of who I may have run up a bit 

I did take this little beauty as an upgrade copy (thanks to the under bidder for FINALLY dropping out ):

7 hours ago, zen514 said:

Congrats! Missed the action... luckily for both of us.

 

What was the final price?

 

Thanks! $4,000

5 hours ago, adamstrange said:

How would de-slabbing inflate the numbers? 

I doubt many collectors do it or that it affects many books.  The folks I know that do it, keep the labels and send them in if they re-slab the book or include them if they sell the book.

In the coin world, they have had difficulties with the census even though I doubt there is any de-slabbing for aesthetic reasons.  Census problems are driven by the crack and re-submit contingent.

Just resubmits without sending in the original label. I've seen it quite a few times. I try to always investigate as many past sale images as I can find when analyzing scarcity based on census numbers.

The good part about collecting classic Gold is that it's a fairly small population of goodies with a lot of inventory info if you're willing to do the research.

To be honest, I didn't know so many folks out here crack their slabs. I would love to, but I'm too paranoid when I pay such crazy premiums for, say, a 9.4 vs. a 9.2. I guess I don't send enough in to feel confident in how it will come back.