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Black light is only one way to detect colour touch. In the majority of cases with CGC, they catch it by eye. Once your eye is trained what to look for it jumps out at you.

It's considered a cool motor cycle cover. (thumbs u May as well post your copies here. That's what the internet's for!

They were read to pieces before people realized they would be worth a whole lot. (thumbs u Yeah but people read Marvel's too. There are so many HG copies vs DC? Was Marvel's circulation that much higher? I wondered about that and have no idea, although there is the argument than by the early-mid 1960's people were taking better care of their books. By then early DC keys had already been around a few years longer than FF #1. In the case of Showcase #4 it was nearly a decade.

They were read to pieces before people realized they would be worth a whole lot. (thumbs u

That depends on what type of books you collect and what your collecting goals are. If you're looking for main stream (superhero or other popular characters) high grade bronze age or earlier comics, the chances of finding ungraded copies, accurately graded is going to be slim. If you are a low or mid grade collector then you might have some luck finding decent books. If you are buying books of any value, you really should learn how to grade yourself (at least to a small degree to get an idea of range that a book falls into) rather than blindly trust strangers with your money. It takes some time and effort but unless you are buying from a trusted seller, you will waste a lot of time and money buying books that are not accurately graded and possibly have undisclosed restoration. The good news is that there are a lot of trusted sellers out there should you choose to stick with them. Another option is finding affordable slabbed copies of the books. It's a myth that all slabbed books are priced at a premium over unlsabbed books. High grade, mainstream titles are generally "over guide" books but there are plenty of books that sell below guide even when graded. Again, it all depends on what you are collecting. You might be able to find slabbed, affordable copies of books that you collect and then just remove them from the CGC holder like many collectors do.

Didn't you just bump a 2 year old thread here?

Yup, that was what I had understood as well. I'm glad I picked it up.

There was a bit of a run up and now a correction has happened after the movie. Still an extremely tough book with lots of appeal. I think I said it at the start of this thread, that as a Marvel guy I have always liked this book.

I finally snapped a pic of the page.

I think we are going to change your board name to Silver Age Steve.

While we're waiting for the pic, can you tell us anything about the page? The title of the story? The book it's from? I mistakenly called it a splash...it's a panel page (4 panels in total) with the top half of the page being a half splash. It's a page from the 1st Flamingo story circa late 1940's/1950 or so. Apparently it was unpublished until the 80's when it was printed for the first time. The page contains the first actual appearance of Flamingo in detail. It's quite pretty.

I picked up a killer Baker Original Art splash in Chicago. I'll post it when I can. Very excited to get it.

That's a story I've always admired. I think Frank was pleased as he used this scene as the basis for a painting. The mood he captured is brilliant...in both, although I think the drawing is a bit more fluid and foreboding. The painting is brilliant for different reasons.

It ain't no lotto if the $75K or $92K 9.6 copy pressed up to a 9.8. Those were already at pretty much 9.8 pricing IMO.

Not if one of the big guns own the book and need it to top out their collection. If Brulato or TempusFugitivus or Schmell (or similar) own it there is a good chance it won't be sold.

Interesting. I was just thinking this past week when one might turn up. We'll see if someone tries to sell it soon or if it's a keeper.

You are mis remembering how things were before CGC. I have never liked low and mid grade books. I just get zero pleasure from owning and looking at them. Even 15 years before CGC I was paying multiples of guide for high grade books. Ditto. I don't judge people who collect low grade books but I personally don't like low grade comics. Never have.

Easy answer. The market of digital 9s was created because people figured out bronze,copper and modern comic books are virtually worthless in near mint. They figured out that near mint copies are not rare at all because of all the bagging,boarding and hoarding between 1976 and up! So they had to create an artificial market to make some money. 9.2, 9.4, 9.6, 9.8 then 9.9 Some day we will see the 9.9 and a half! The market created itself. CGC is just a reaction to it. Collector's already gauge the value of the same book in 9.8 by White Pages or not (which CGC does designate) but also by how the book's cover was cut and properly stapled. Collector's have long sought out and paid more for UHG books for their rarity since at least 1970 when the OSPG began publishing. Read Mile High Chuck's Edgar Church story and see how quickly word got around about that collection and how fast some of those collector's moved in to scoop some of those books up. Agreed. Necessity is the mother of invention and when books started selling for 5 and 6 and even 7 figures, you needed to differentiate between grades in a more precise way. As prices increased, grades became more and more fine (or precise). You can't label books Good - Fine - Mint anymore. It's only logical to break it down to something less coarse for all of those books that fell in between those 3 grades.

Some of us never liked books that are falling apart.

It may or may not sell for that price but I wanted to start somewhere and it's uncharted territory. I remember seeing a Wolverine limited edition (1982) sell for $3500 and that price was crazy at the time. Then two more copies sold for $14,000 and $15,000. I started the price at what I thought was at a spot where I can negotiate from. I bought this book from Cloud 9 (we've been doing some business over the past few months). I gave Ken a price he thought was fair and since I'm a bit of a risk taker I want to see how it fares on the interwebs. As far as pressing goes, I doubt it but I can ask Ken.

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Are you trying to say something or am I just too sensitive?

It was a $50K book for a while in 9.6 and was well on it's way to bringing numbers up on lower grade issues but the slew of auctions really kills prices. Even if there is enough money to go around there is just not enough time for people to make it to bidding on all auctions. My living consists of looking at comics online and I still can't get to them all.

Many great economists are actually investors. Keynes was one of the few exceptions. Very true. The proof is in the pudding. Anybody can analyze a theory, talk a storm and read text books and recite them. The real geniuses are the ones that consistently rise above the pack and pull ahead. We have some of the most "brilliant minds" in the world in power and they continue to run the population into the ground.