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Same here. Glad I didn't screw up on the first round, though I suspect a few people did better. These were my grades:

I have one graded at 9.0. Of course, it wasn't detached until they slabbed it.

2.5. There are so many other issues that the detached cover doesn't change the grade much.

Grades in.

I should have looked more carefully. I thought this was another of the "not a 9.8" examples that found their way into a 9.8 holder. Sounds like it is, but that was a step before the photos posted.

Because the newsstand isn't 9.8.

No, sorry.

That makes sense to me. Your comment reminds me of my own CGC-related issue with a rare comic. It isn't valuable btw, just rare. I sent in a Fantastic Four #24 (1999) $2.29 price variant for grading. It came back a 9.0, but it was damaged during the holdering process, causing a detached cover. They offered to, I think, refund the grading fee and pay FMV for the comic, but it isn't worth much anyway. What was worth something to me is the 2 years it took to find it and the fact I still haven't seen another for sale. So, I kept the comic because it is still the only example I've been able to find. I expect that someday it will be worth more, but in this case, I paid money to have my comic damaged and got bupkus in return. Not only that, but if I ever do sell it, I have to take it out of the holder so that the buyer can't pretend it really is a 9.0. After the damage it suffered, it isn't. The experience was unsatisfying, but I don't know what CGC could have done. They would have had a hard time finding one also, with no guarantee it's in the right condition if they got lucky and found one. They can't pay what I think it might be worth in 10-20 years, but my cash into it is meaningless (maybe $5 for the comic plus $30 for the grading+shipping). So, it's a dead loss to me. Selling it to them for the grading fee and FMV would require sacrificing the only copy of that variant I've been able to find, so I kept it. The only satisfactory outcome would be if CGC replaced it with another $2.29 variant in the same or better condition, but there's almost zero chance they could do that even if they were willing.

The option you labeled 1 is what CGC is offering right now, as I understand it. The other option circumvents CGC completely, as an inadequate solution. The way it's presented atm, as I understand it, is this: 1) You paid $20k at the top of the market, comic is now worth $10k. CGC gives you $10k and keeps the comic. 2) You paid $20k at the top of the market, comic is now worth $10k. You keep the comic, and the taint attached to the cert number, so it is now unsellable. I'm suggesting the following two options for this scenario: 3) You paid $20k at the top of the market, comic is now worth $10k. You go through the police/FBI/seller/seller's agent (eBay/CL/etc) to get full reimbursement for purchase price. 4) You spent $20k for a 9.8 MJI ASM 238. CGC finds another copy, legit, and replaces your comic with the one they find that is a legit 9.8 ASM 238 with MJI, no matter what it costs them to obtain it. Personally, I think this is the best option, not selling the comic to CGC. It puts the onus on them to give the collector what they bought.

It would have been nearly impossible to find newsstand editions in any grade. When I tried finding one on eBay last year, I had to plow through 1,500 listings before finding one, and it wasn't 9.8.

A good point related to this is that just compensation is different if you go to the seller (via police) or CGC. CGC compensates for (current) FMV. If you go to the seller, you could theoretically a full refund + damages. If you paid more than it is currently worth, then the best options are to go after the seller for a full refund, or to CGC for a replacement book that is legitimately the grade and comic represented on the holder.

NP. I have a lot more that I haven't photographed. Might do that in coming days, we'll see.

I should add that this comic contains one of Barks all time greatest stories. My opinion, this comic is one of the five most desirable Barks comics.

My oldest CPV, and the US version.

They could weigh them. A sensitive enough instrument should be able to tell the difference.

I don't think so. It makes more sense to give new numbers to all of the comics, regardless whether they were swapped, to remove the taint. My guess is that CGC intends to permanently retire all of the 350 numbers they've identified.

I prefer DC to Marvel up to about 1975. Not sure what changed after that, but something did. My favorites are about 1958-1970.

Sorry, didn't see this was for moderns only. I haven't bought any for awhile. Instead, I'm working on rebuilding my first comic book collection. As a kid, I had a little green box full of index cards to record all my comics. About thirty years ago, my mom offered it to me and I turned her down. Am I ever kicking myself about that. Same for rejecting my shoe box full of 1960's/1970's football cards. Trying to remember which comics I bought first is not easy because I eventually filled in the gaps of the collection after it was stolen, then my mom forced me to sell that collection also. Today, about all I have to go on are memories of comics that were in bad shape, or were exttremely memorable for some reason. I don't know why, but the DCs don't stand out as much as the Marvels, possibly because I eventually bought every DC by Neal Adams or Wrightson, making it very difficult to recall if I got those before or after the first collection was gone.