Randall Ries

Right?

I don't have a favorite scene.

Jaleel White as as Robin.

Batteats. That was unneeded and very jarring to see.

There he is. Computer room shoulders himself. "SNARF! I can't turn my head and my cape is tucked into my underwear!"

Exactly. Burton never should have been hired to direct a Batman film. Certainly not 2. And yes. I hyperbole a lot. I find it soothing. Who should have directed it? I would have went with Sam Peckinpah if he wasn't dead already. My 1st choice would have been John Waters. Or Martin Scorsese. Stanley Kubrick. Michael Haneke. Anyone but Burton. He was on a Beetlejuice high and that's why we saw Keaton as well.

Truthfully? With that -script? No one. At the time, Pierce Brosnan. Michael Pare, if he could lose the Brooklyn accent. Tom Selleck? Kurt Russell? Ray Liotta? Charlie Sheen? They considered Bill Murray as well. Just to illustrate how far off they were willing to go off the rails. I can say from someone who was actually there, NO ONE wanted Michael Keaton. It made NO SENSE. Everyone wanted Nicholson, of course. That was everyone's choice before it was cast. Others couldn't figure out why Pat Hungle as Gordon? He bore some resemblance to the 'Tec 27 Gordon. But Gordon could have been cast better. Simply put, they wanted to sell toys and fast food. T-shirts. The whole 9 yards. They pretty much ignored the hard core fans and wanted Batman '66 with a little low lighting scenery.

It's strange because when I read the pirated -script, that's the line that my eyes dragged across. "I'm Batman". Certainly they will change THAT. That's terrible writing. They did not. Life can be rough. It became a tag line for just about everything.

Ryan. What are you? 29? 30? Less? Yeah, I'm complaining. I complained about it when I was young as well. Does that count? And here YOU are, Ryan. On a comic book forum snuttin' down your nose at what? Another comic book fan? Oh ok.

"All of us" meant my group. My associates. My collector friends etc in 1989. Not you. Not your mom. Not your little brother.

Yes. It's what it always was. I mean, I watched Mary Poppins and Chitty Chitty Bang Bang through the eyes of a child as they reran the movies in the late 1960's. Know what I see when I re-watch them through my adult filter? Awesome movies. A little sugary (No pun intended) but we can use some sweetness these days. Mary Poppins was a b*&ch in the book. THAT much I noticed they changed. That was a welcome change. Ever huff ether with someone who's on a constant downer? It STINKS! LOL!

What they tried to do was alienate no one. And by doing that made a ton of money and set the tone for the rest of the movies which - just IMO - all suck. Nicholson wasn't scary to me. But I wasn't a kid. To me, he was a nuisance. Really? Bruce Wayne swinging upside down like he was a bat hanging off the roof of a cave? Show me any other reference to that. Wacko. And sure. I get it. It seems like most of the commenters here were kids when they saw it and it must have seemed awesome and that is fine. But y'all grew up, right? Try watching it through my lens as an adult who was conned into going to see it. I had read the -script one year before production and man. It was terrible. And they didn't change one single word. I refused to go see the movie and my wife made dinner out plans with friends and after dinner, guess where we ended up? I tried. I got to the line "I'm Batman" I said "Yeah? I'm outta here", tried to leave and they had to trank me back into my seat. It's funny to think about now. Back then, it wasn't universally accepted as a good movie among Batman fans. Lots of eye rolling. So, I as an adult (an admittedly cranky adult) I am still waiting for my grown up Batman movie. Think anyone could please pull off a DKR movie that stays faithful to the 4 books? That cartoon is terrible as well. Look at Sin City. That was amazing as a film.

According to this cover, one of those grappling hooks is going right through my house in VT. LOL! Anyone else?

The dude at the beginning would have been even better. That guy was a chill fest.

Well, HOPEFULLY that's why. LOL!

It isn't "heightism". 5'9 is better than average height for a male. It was the wrong choice of Batman and Bruce Wayne. We all thought so. LCS and their clientele at the time. That photo to me doesn't look like a respectable Batman. And that is the point. People who flipped over the movie can't even believe their own eyes.

That's exactly my point. The movie was beamed into your 6th grade face. You and your classmates were like Manchurian Candidates.

Irrelevant to the topic at hand.

1989 was a sorry year for the Dark Knight. 1986 was the year he was christened "The Dark Knight" by Frank Miller. As far as I know. Then Michael Keaton accepted the role of Batman in Tim Burton's ridiculous-a-thon "Batman". To the horror of all of us. Batman fans and Michael Keaton fans. Keaton is a comedian. Back to Gotham City as a giant playground. With giant props. With a goofus Joker again. And we got who? Talia Al Ghul as Batman's love interest? Awesome! MIGHT have been. But no. We got Vicki Vale. Neal Adams, Denny O'Neil, Terry Austin, Marshall Rogers, Jim Aparo, Bob Haney and Frank Miller must have sat in the theater in 1989 and wondered why they had put all that thought and effort into revitalizing the character just to watch DC Comics pander to their children. "Daddy! Make Batman wear a dress! Tee hee!" "Ok, honey!" "Daddy! Hire Tim Burton to direct your Batman movie! We LIKED Beetlejuice! He was fuuuunny, Daddy!" "Ok, Sweetheart!" I mean, come on. Tim Burton had manlier shoulders than Batman, fer Chrissakes! Tim Burton is 6'0. Batman was supposed to be around at least 6'4. "A huge man dressed like Dracula". Michael Keaton? 5'9. About a foot short. Don't believe me? How about....YOUR OWN EYES? Here's Michael Keaton as The "Dark" Knight and Tim Burton. Here we see Keaton standing bolt upright with the graceful, sloping shoulders of a high school lab partner. Tim Burton is humped over like Wybie in "Coraline" and he had a majestic shoulder spread compared to Batman in this photo.

Yeah, that's nice. I think the scammer is right here.

Haha! Looks to me you are about to take the cover right off the book. Don't worry about the names. Worry about staple pull.

I never understood how he even got that name. Terrible name for a sidekick.

The WP book is clearly a better presenter. Don't get the inside cover reflection. Someone said that's a trick of the slab, but I have seen that raw. Sweet books! You must love them!

Thanks! There aren't very many examples of pink pages I could find. One, to be exact. The Fabulous, Furry Freak Brothers books were printed with pink pages. Sort of, I guess. Doesn't look all that pink. I guess this one is aged.

Join the crowd. I sure get that. Even when I'm deadnuts correct, I get someone who ignores it and tells me to "lose the tone". Maybe it deserved a "tone". Sometimes if you don't "toney" it up, the point is lost. I can't even afford everything I would LIKE to have. Say nothing about entire series or even runs. I set my goals in a reasonable fashion. I have been a collector for many years of different things. I was always impacted negatively whenever I had "too much" of a given item. The items lost their significance and importance and it began feeling like work or money. Neither of those two things are high on my list of importance. Andy Rooney voice: "Ever notice when YOU are making a difficult point, you are considered 'Obnoxious' by a certain person, but when the same person is making a difficult point, they consider themselves 'passionate'? I have."