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Here's another example of how the art changed. According to Conrad, the original art has the face that is shown in Where Creatures Dwell #9, but the scary face was blacked out for the Journey Into Mystery #60 cover.
Now it looks to me like quite a bit of the cover was re-worked for the modern version -- the three characters in the foreground are clearly different as is the texture of the monster. The story goes that although the original art is long-gone (for whatever reason, pre-hero original art covers were reportedly destroyed or lost) but the production stats were used for the 70s recreations.
I would like to research it further because it's really quite interesting.
And the 70s reprint:
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This thread needs resurrecting. Even though I've sold a number of my books, I still love the things. I hope this doesnt' get repetitive, but a lot of the early posts have broken image links.
Just a few of my favorites:
Giant Robot cover. Classic Sci-Fi when Pre-hero was making the transition from straight Sci-Fi to more of the giant monster type stories:
This book has an interesting history -- I was talking to Conrad Eschenberg who told me that a number of the covers to early pre-hero books were modified before publication: either they were considered "too scary" by the editors (or perhaps by the Comics Code) and the art was modified to be "less scary" or even modified the other way to appease the input of someone who thought the monster was not threatening enough!! Some of the original art was restored or altered somewhat during the reprints of the 70s -- Creatures on the Loose, Where Monsters Dwell, Where Creatures Roam, etc. At some point I will do a thread that compares the original pre-hero covers with the modified 70s reprint versions.
Compare to the cover of Where Creatures Roam #4: note the different face
Another Giant Robot: KLAGG!
And my all-time favorite cover, in the vein of the Ray Harryhausen classic, IT Came from Beneath the Sea!:
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Kudos to:
55Chevy2door
Timulty
Calamerica
Mr_not_so_nice
For PROMPT payment and buying good stuff. They all have Excellent taste, Charlie....
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Here's a shoutout to:
drbanner
darthdiesel
comic supply
Anyone else I forgot, props to you as well.
I got a kick out the subject line on this post because it started out as the title of a post Rhino made over a year ago.....like a game of telephone gone wild!
I mean, I do rock of course, but.......
Red
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My pleasure -- I've not collected Archies but I LOVE this thread!!
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Kudos to the following forumites for purchasing a bunch of Silver and Bronze, pre-hero, and funny animal comics.
Bobpfef
Comicdey
finecomics
cryptkeeper59
Grifter
143ksk
shadroch
And related congrats and kudos to JimJum12 for landing a very special book from me via Captain_Tripps!
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Kudos to:
Sal
Jonjesper
buttock
Scrooge
topofthetotem
for helping me clear out some TPBs!!
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Got to love scary plant-creatures!!
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Excellent books. I love the upfront and proud signature on the Return of Gargantus. I know everyone noticed and it's been known for ages, but Gargantus had cosmetic surgery between issues 80 and 85 or is it not supposed to be the same Gargantus despite what the title hints?
I'm huge fan of Gargantus as depicted on ST 80, while I refer to the creature on ST 85 as the "Jagger-lips" Gargantus. Alas, the interior of both books is consistent with the Jagger-lips rendition.
It is likely also because if I'm not mistaken, the 80 cover is Ditko/Kirby whereas the interior story is Kirby/Ditko. So there is some difference in the styles between the cover and interior story. Then in 85 Kirby/Ayers did both the cover and interior, hence the better consistency.
I also love the cover to 80. Great perspective....
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Nice HG ST97 -- don't see a ton of those around!
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One of my favorite multi-panel covers (next to ASM 4)!!!
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Kudos to Mica for prompt payment on some nice Marvel Tales.
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You would think IRS agents would get paid enough not to have to resort to such lowly levels.(but they are so quick to bust my chops about the $1500 I wrote off as work clothes) ..he would have looked better robbing porn.Free Winona!
Money rarely enters into it. Most shoplifters steal because of the rush, not because of need.
A friend of mine owns a cigar shop/lounge in the North Shore Chicago suburbs -- high rent area. The majority of customers are very wealthy individuals (except me, I'm the trailer trash ).
The number of people he's caught stealing $8 cigars is unreal. They can afford them, they just don't want to pay or feel entitled or like the thrill of "beating the system". Whatever.
The ironic thing is there's a kind of divy locals bar about a block away and a lot of the customers from there come to his shop to buy tobacco and they are not the problem. It's the big $$ biz guys in Armani suits that try to rip him off. Go figure
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Thanks for FAST payments to:
- Stronguy on the Thanos sketch
- ArAich on the FF 67
Always a pleasure doing biz with forumites!
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Awesome books. Spidey has yellow webbing???
I love Jack, Ayers, Dan Adkins and Dandy Don Heck, but when you see the cover and interior to this book and books like Avengers 11 and X-Men 35, it's REAL clear why Stan had Ditko do Spider-Man....
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Hey, it was my first submission! I was young and naive!
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I always liked the late EC covers by Williamson and Frazetta
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Picked these up at Wizard World Boston.
When I have time to post nice scans I will, but the JIM 76 variant is in the Fine- range, and the other two are probably F+. I was pretty happy to find them. Not much else for me at the show.
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Kudos to the following forumites for buying stuff from me and for lightning-fast payment:
mlovest
followtheleader
divadrabnud
blutobc
THANKS!!!
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So which side of Aluminum foil should I use?
And no it's not for making a pointy hat.
Actually a lot of people don't know the answer to this either. You should place food against the dull side of the foil.
Have I mentioned lately that Iove these boards?
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Tune in next week, when FFB confirms the accuracy of the splitting of the human genome!!
Pre- Hero Marvels!!!!
in Silver Age Comic Books
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Crawdad, I always liked the monster and super-villain issues of the early Silver Age Marvel Westerns.
You can probably buy the Steve Ditko Visionaries book from Amazon with no 2-week ETA.
Also, Marvel put out a Tales to Astonish Masterworks earlier this year that reprints issues 1 - 10 in their entirety. They say they have plans to do that with the other pre-hero titles, which would be fantastic if they stick to it and put them all out.
Also, the Stan Lee Visionaries book has a few pre-hero stories in it.