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Comic Art Factory

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    message from Romain SOMEONE IS SELLING MY ART ON CAF !!

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    Posted · Edited by Comic Art Factory

    7 minutes ago, Nexus said:

    This reminds me of a story a few years ago where a boardie was invited to a private collector's home, and took a pic of a buried McSpidey cover on the wall when that collector was distracted. The boardie then shopped the cover by showing the pic to prospective buyers. Totally without the owner's knowledge or consent.

    IIRC, the reaction was 100% unanimous that this was egregious conduct by the boardie.

    I don't see the alleged actions in question here as being too much different.

    A week ago, a collector told me a story.

    It could be written in the Bible of colelcting. 

    Step 1 : A collector visited him and saw a few pieces that were not for sale. He asked if he could take a few pictues.

    Step 2 : a few days later, he called his fellow collector, to see if he could change his mind on a specific piece. The owner said no for the second time.

    Step 3 : a few days pass, and the guy callas back the owner of the art, and says 'I have a potential customer for this piece. I could give you as much, and keep a fee for me". Once again the collector says NO. 

    Step 4 : 3 days later, the guy calls again and says one his best line ever : "Now you really have to sell it to me because I already accepted the buyer's money, and he's gonna get pissed if I don't give him the art".. I think you can imagine that the owner of the art was a little mad at his guy he previouly invited at his place and who tried to took advantage of him. And of course he hung up on him. 

     

     

    message from Romain SOMEONE IS SELLING MY ART ON CAF !!

    in Original Comic Art

    Posted · Edited by Comic Art Factory

    Let's get a few things straight. 

     

    1. If you sell original art, you're never gonna pick the slowest shipping option as you want the buyer to get the art as soon as possible. A DHL shipping (7 days) or even classic international shippng (10-12 days) can be done from Europe to the USA for less than 70 USD usually. So holding on a few bucks to pick the slowest shipping option is not very careful, and we all know that the longest the art is on the way, the more it gets a chance to be damaged, especially if the package is not bulletproof. Getting rid of the tracking number before it safely arrives, especially when picking the slowest shipping option, shows no consideration at all for the buyer, IMHO. 

    2. Yes Visarspike put 9 pages on CAF for sale at the time of Romain's first post in this topic. One of them he just purchased, but the remaining  8 were from Romain's personal collection. And he had no agreement at all to proceed with these sales. He stole scans from the owner's collection and of course selected major pieces. He just thought he was gonna be able to get customers confirm a sale, and then he would have got back to the real owner of the pages. Is it dishonest ? What do you think... 

    Is there a reason why he changed his ID a few times on comicartfans and other websites  ? I'll let you guess.  

    And if I recall these events so precisely, it's because, I saw those pages for sale the day they were added on CAF and immediately contacted Romain, and a few other colelctores acted the same way. Of course, you can impagine the real owner of the pages was of course really pissed and contacted Comicartrfans's manager in the next few minutes.  I know that a few american collectors/dealers are more and more offering for sale pieces they don't own and have been in the business for years. But they're never gonna post it on CAf, they're just gonna send you stolen scans.  So here we have the french equivalent of these gentlemen. 

     

     

     

    Krigstein's 8-page "Master Race" OA at Heritage. How Much?

    in Original Comic Art

    Posted

    1 hour ago, The Voord said:

    Should be no reason whatsoever for the Donnelly Brothers to have altered this story artwork.  Gaines kept the bulk of the EC art locked away in a vault for many years and when released to the marketplace  (commencing late 1970s) were in great condition.  Krigstein altered the artboards himself, at time of publication, wanting to expand the story through a re-structuring of the pages (I think it was originally intended as a 6 or 7-page story?).  The Donnellys tampering habits usually involves altering unpublished artworks to make them look like unused cover designs.

    Not just that. Completely re-inking a published piece initially done with marker (which had faded when art was sold at auction) opened up a lot of possibilities.  And I'm pretty sure that wasn't a first. 

    Krigstein's 8-page "Master Race" OA at Heritage. How Much?

    in Original Comic Art

    Posted

    Considering the last owners of the art before it came in auction, I'm surprised no one addresses the possibility of the art being "altered", even slightly.

    Are there scans of the art or a real condition report of it, before it came into possession of those guys, as we all know they've altered so many pieces of art, and never hesitated to have art restored in some peculiar way, like having someone ink all over a marker-done cover for example. Because if by any chance the art was teared, or missing a piece of panel, there's very little chance this would be mentioned.  

    The Original Art for Batman's...er...member.

    in Original Comic Art

    Posted

    The way Azarello wrote the opening sequences of the animated version of "Killing Joke", and how he then considered the Batgirl character, you knew his "100 bullets" days were long gone. And for those of use who dared read the first issues of Moonshine, it was definitively confirmed. This little stunt will now eclipse the Joel Schumacher Bat-Nipples. Right now, I need some lazy writer repellent bat-spray  

    Keeping your collection private

    in Original Comic Art

    Posted

    There are very few collectors who like to discuss this topic, because it refers to our mortality. But it's as stupid as having a secret cache where you put thousands of dollars, not disclose it, and let the movers find it later instead of your flesh and blood.

    Also, because many collectors lied to their  wife and family regarding the price they paid for the art (very, very bad idea long-term although people getting a divorce will contradict me with a smile) to avoid a heated conversation. And another batch don't want to pay insurance money, which would have been associated by an official estimate from a third party (they don't want anyone to know what they have). Also a very bad move long-term.

    If anything happens to these collectors, their family will often sell their collection for cheap. give it for free, or even throw it away. I've seen that happen. Another thing, write down a list of people (professionals or well-educated flippers) that your family must avoid at all cost when it's time to sell if you passed away. Cause some are as hypnotic as the snake from the Jungle Book. 

    Pics from NJ Art Con

    in Original Comic Art

    Posted

    4 minutes ago, Panelfan1 said:

    That SS #1 was on ebay unsold a couple years back at 15k. Loved it then - but not so much  the price.

    It was offered at the NY comic Con 4 years ago for 15 K and didn't sell. It was previously sold on Heritage in 2013 for 8.5 K  

    Gorgeous cover. 

    Pics from NJ Art Con

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    Posted

    thanks a lot.

    Many pieces, among them, both Sandman pages, the Defenders cover, and the Silver Surfer Marshall rogers cover have no price written on pencil or a sticker. Do you remember who had those ? And were there many pages without any price mentioned on it ?