joe_collector

Banner you are the man to buy raw from

On that statement... we shall see, oh yes, we shall definitely see....

or you have the sort of personality that sees no difference between reality and fiction,

Joanna, why don't you blow this "superiority complex" you have out your butt?

The GCD lists the stories in Human Torch #31 as "He Gambled on Death" (Torch), "Troubador of Terror" (Subby), and "Man Who Could Foresee Doom"(Torch). Doesn't list a Captain America story. Is your book a different book or did they miss a story?

Cool, and thanks. It must be the Subby 31 that has the Cap story in it. Really cool one, where a mini-scanners-like maniac tries to match brains with Cap, and pays for it!!

Just found it:

The Hypnotist of Horror

Not sure.....

But here's a pic of the cover

Thanks, now what's the other one? Gotta be a Marvel multi-character book, as there are Cap, Subby and Torch stories inside.

Thats Subby 31 GA

Does that one have the ultra-cool Captain America story about the guy who tried to match minds with him?

Speaking of coverless GA, anyone know what title/number these two issues are:

Comilink were selling were selling Action Comics #1 one page at a time all CGC graded, didn't they?

You're lucky Bug isn't here to dress you down. The pages are encapsulated and certified, not graded.

Scotty....how have you been?

Working on his MVS book, which is 95% complete... and no, I don't have a Shanna the She-Devil stamp.

This guy is terrible with communiaction. After agreeing on a deal, he took forever and a day to provide scans of a few other books to close the deal. After about a few months, no word at all. Bad bad bad

Actually, I've found him to be extremely prompt in our dealings, but it may have to do with our first names and country of residence.

joe collector, i am beginning to think you are retarded

Watch out, that's senility talking.

Go take some Geritol and hit the sack.

I do remember people in the 50's/60's thinking comics would NEVER be worth anything...and they were wrong. Also, later on people felt once the hi-grade collections of the Silver Age collectors flooded the market in the late 80's/90's, Silver Age prices would drop...and they were wrong. Later on people said Bronze Age comics would never be worth much...and they were wrong.

Exactly, and how does this prove your point?

Do a poll and ask collectors and specs if the market is going to crash and the resounding majority would vote NO.. and they will be wrong.

By the end of the coming correction (whenever that may be), you'll all be thinking Joe_Collector was entirely too optimistic in his prognostications.

I know exactly what you mean. I remember chumps coming into my office, and boldly stating where the NASDAQ would be in 10 years, laughing about their "paper profits" and vowing to ride that horse to the moon.

When I brought up any mention of market factors virtually guaranteeing a correction, I was deemed a "negative thinker" and definitely not someone who was "in tune with the market". Not a few months later, the party ended and after a period of mourning, these same chumps were suddenly my best friends and asking for advice.

It'll be the same here, with few people understanding the basic framework of a collectibles market, and instead expecting the insane prices to increase and the market to sustain itself. It's never happened before and it won't happen here.

I do hope the fallout is not as bad as I think it will be, but as the sportscard biz has shown, all bets are off with "soft, new money" like this.

I still see folks buying coins and sportscards, so even though those markets have had their problems, the markets are still going onward.

Of course, a collectibles market doesn't dry up, as the true collectors remain no matter what. The point is always the relative demand and pricing, not the fact that people are still buying.

In the sportscard biz, collectors are still buying their PSA cards, but the fact remains that there are lots of PSA 10's that are selling for 1-10% of their previous high value.

I think comic books will be a viable hobby for many in the future, but the investment angle has been dwindling out, and I really don't see prices staying where they are. The Perfect Storm is coming to an end, and while I will maintain my collection and continue buying (where they ain't), I see no logical reason to buy an uber-expensive book now, rather than waiting for the inevitable a few years down the line.

I've always heard things like "What! XXX for that book! You've got to be kidding me!",. Ten years later, we would all jump at the chance to buy the book that cheap again.

Oh I agree, that's the danger of using past trends to project future ones. Do you really think stamp, coin, or sportscard collectors didn't think this same way? At a certain point in time, prices spike, demographics fade, and then it's time to send everyone home.

I do agree that certain GA comics like Det 27 and Action 1 have achieved a "historic importance" and have moved to the nex tier, but otherwise it's tough to see any factors for increased demand in the future.

It's becoming quite apparent you're just pulling my leg, so I'll just bow out.

Even so, a NM ASM 14 in 1986 was definitely cheaper than the same book in 1996.

Sure but the OS Guide is supposed to reflect trends, not create them. If you say prices will rise in the OS, then what will cause the OS to receive higher sales prices from dealers?

VM, I'm talking about "real-world" prices, and not those "dealer buy at 30%" values that Bob adjusts by 10% each and every year.

You're talking about something I refer to as "Price Guide Fantasy" where you look back at 1986 and really believe you could have bought a NM ASM 14 for the price listed.

So yeah, in 10 years, Bob may still be instituting his 10% annual price increases, but will collectors be paying them for raw comics?

Currently we're in a period of unprecedented price-growth for many comics, with Hollywood movies, CGC, EBay and other factors creating what I see as a "Perfect Storm" for comic prices.

This is certainly a great time to be a dealer (or greggy) but I'm wondering what possible factors will contribute to future growth? The movie machine is winding down (at least for Marvel/non-DC), the Census can go nowhere but up, the collector base is "graying", and we've already had a few very noticeable "market corrections" already.

So what factors would have you believe that comics will continue their incredible price growth in the years ahead?

I think we disagree on the basic premise here. feedback is for payment IMO and anything else about the buyer can be added to the public record using response to feedback or post feedback comments immediately under initial feedback.

That is definitely where we disagree, but what you feel "feedback is for" is all up to individual choice, and there are no hard and fast rules.

You're not right, LH isn't right, you both simply differ in the way you choose to run your EBay transactions.

IMHO, as a seller feedback lets your buyer know that you got their payment and you have completed your end of the transaction. As a buyer, feedback lets your seller know that you received the goods that you sent them and is satisfied.

I'm not disagreeing, only stating that everyone has the freedom to choose (unless you're from Cuba) and that worrying incessantly over when feedback is posted demonstrates a certain personality type.

I stoped leaving feedback for sellers that don't leave it first. If the only factor that affects their feedback about me is what feedback I left them then screw 'em.

That's a great policy and something even I've done after looking at a seller with 1K buyer feedbacks, yet has left on 20 or so in return.

Still, if they're selling nice books, I could care less about my "feedback points".

but I'm not sure how many potential bidders feel the way this guy does

Mostly it's newbies and people that wach their feedback rating like hawks.

Obsessive compulsive crack-heads like to complain about sellers and buyers not leaving feedback; EBay veterans use EBay to get quality merchandise not feedback points...

Use whatever policy fits your comfort level...if bidders don't like it then they can go elsewhere....there is no policy that is written in stone and for anybody to come down on you because you clearly state your position...is just a whiner...

Exactly, and be your own man and stand up to the whiners!! If they want to complain, you don't need their business.

I loved the GL/GA books, but I just don't see any DC book providing the impetus to create/launch all of the Bronze Age trends I identify with.

Plus, all the Key Bronze Age first appearances are Marvel.

My opinion on this whole debate is that the main trends I see as comprising the Bronze Age, such as anti-heroes, increased violence, heroes killing villains, villains killing heroes/bystanders, minority representation (as both heroes and villains) and an influx of brand-new characters exhibiting these characteristics....

Had little or nothing to do with DC comics.

Sure, DC did produce some exceptional Bronze Age trend-setting stories like Manhunter and Spectre (both of which might have been better than the Marvel counterparts) but in 1970-72, it was Marvel really taking the ball and driving it to a new and different territory.

Just my opinion.