grapeape

Buy it for $1950 or gets the page beats all other interested parties or Make a serious offer Its a nice price with plenty of room for valuation growth. Act now! Smile daily!

A self imposed ban? Are you a super hero? Activate will power!!! What an extraordinary super power!

All is forgiven. Simply send GrapeApe the “lesser” of the two #1 pages for what you originally paid for them and we’re good! Listen JumboJumbo better to be straightforward on this board. It’s totally ok to ask for help here especially on valuation. There’s a wide range of collectors/dealers on CGC. Without seeing the pages you won’t get the most accurate valuation. Hell even with you might sometimes get the wrong information depending on knowledge and motivation. Still I’ve found this a great place to get some honest feedback. Thanks for “coming clean.” 🍇 + 🦍

Haha yes those sheep look fat and happy but they are headed off a long drop mountainside of manipulated (allegedly) bidding and the intoxicating whiff of buyers premium BP farts. Turn back gentle collector. Think for yourself!! I’m buying a few pages back I let go in 2009 for three figures and paying up four figures to get them back. But that’s fair and I deserve paying that penalty. But I’m not buying a 5 figure page that was previously owned or available for 3 figures. Stay away from the shiny objects unless you have F U and F Me money.

Hahaha I like Brent Anderson, but I was thinking the second tier guys like Cockrrum, Smith and Silvestri.😂

Lol true...and on Kirby my friends comments came before Tony Christopher released all those pages. Vodou I’m with you. Knowledge isn’t enough. It takes money. Knowledge. Then you have to convince the seller to let them go. Today the very best work is in black hole zip codes. The rest is scattered around the globe. Occasionally you’ll find a stack of desired art but it’s sitting in a pile of dust with a INQUIRE sign on them. The Christopher Collection came loose late nineties.They were broken up to multiple dealers then I imagine cherry picked for personal collections before individual pieces were priced and offered to collectors. Even when a significant lot of pages come up it’s difficult for one collector to put their mind to cornering them. Even if they have the money other impediments can disrupt that pursuit. Ex.)Willingness of a seller to let everything go for a agreed upon price. I had a chance to buy 12 John Buscema Silver Surfer pages for $400-$500 a piece from one seller. I bought one page. This was 1998. I love JB surfer more then anything but I had other wants and I would have had to get a loan to buy all the JBS pages. I saw one of those pages I didn’t buy sell for $25K a few years ago. Even if I put the word out today that I’m buying up all McFarlane Spidey’s, the second owners heard I bought a couple a pages for $100K the new price becomes $200K and onward upwards. How far to I want to go? How much do I want to get fleeced for? Say money is no object. If I somehow buy them all (McSpideyI create a market at this point where no one else can afford to buy a page back from me. Most smart people with money always leave themselves a few outs. Not likely to corner any market that’s already been discovered. It’s smart to listen to other hobby trends that produce monetary value. MTG Black Lotus Card Pokemon Sports cards whatever Corner the market before discovery by the public on anything and you can rule the world. I’ve decided I’m going after all the post Byrne X Men pages through Cockrum’s second run. If I move fast, I can corner the market!! 😂

If video killed the radio star, surely it was Apple that killed the need for a watch or a Walkman. I was in a comic store recently and a young guy walked in with a couple of low grade ASM comics. The shop owner offered the kid barely enough to buy a decent lunch. ”Do you know how rare and hard to find these Spider-Man comics are?” the kid (24-25 maybe) argued. Our perception of what is rare or valued by others is almost always based on our own biases. Reality has very little to do with it. I thought “good for you” and before I could blink the shop owner flipped his laptop around to show nearly one hundred listings for the same books. It was quick but seemed to take place in slo-mo like watching Neo dodge those bullets in that “little cult movie” that came out 20+ years ago. Yes I have a friend that liked to spend rich people’s money. “Can you believe Michael Jackson spent $2,000,000 dollars on a monkey that can sing and dance while making pancakes?” “Think of the Kirby pages I could have bought with that money.”

Yes had I owned the piece I would have been hesitant to alter it. But it’s Don Rosa. You don’t say no to Don Rosa over a creative suggestion!!! The colors are wonderful. Now, I would draw the line if the artist had offered to sign the art across Donald’s blue coat with a red marker

Been there done that. Now if Wonder Woman wants to snare the Ape with her golden lasso ♥️🦍🍇♥️

Alex that’s beautiful.

Grapeape got a donation down! Hang in there John. The grape went through this same exact vision problem some years ago. Just lucky to have caught it in time.

Nathanlogan hope all these stories cheer you. I’m very hopeful things will turn out all right!

He wanted to give you Superman 😂 The guy is a character but I’m very fond of him!!!

You were and yes Moon Knight in particular as far as comics and comic art speculation.

A legend draws another legend(in his own mind), 🍇 🦍 Curse of the Virue 💀 😂

My friends I apologize as I further messed with the Golden Legend. Presume that Golden meant Virtue? Came up with V I R U E Then I came along being the 2+2=5 guy that I am, and wrote V I R U half hoping that we could keep the joke going until we got down to V U..... Like a Virue Virus I infected the thread with VIRU, since corrected in my post. Michael Golden = VIRUE = legend I feel sorry for Gerry but I think he actually made out ok in the end. The board now has a legend, a cautionary tale. It feels like an EC Comic. Have Patience lest Ye fall victim to VIRUE 💀 FYI I have met Michael in person and he’s a wonderful guy. He really is. He’s funny and intelligent. Very giving of his time. I have no idea how he feels about this whole ordeal today. I just think it’s important especially for my homies the NEWBS to know that one story does not necessarily capture the complete picture. Things I heard from others starting out. John Buscema hates comics and hates the fans even worse. A monster. Not at all my experience. John was kind, thoughtful and he enjoyed talking with me as much as I with him. He showed an appreciation of the work he created. Bruce Timm is unbearable!!! He won’t draw what I want. Haha....he’s not unbearable but yes at the last convention you had to sign on a list and you could put what character you wanted. But Bruce would draw what he wanted instead for a flat $200. At the end of the day you may or may not want what he drew for you. So you don’t pay he sells to someone else. Ecentric? Hell yes! I loved it. Some didn’t. I asked him up front, “Bruce who do you NOT want to draw.” Please don’t ask me for Harley, or Batman.,,,.” Haha!!! Of course—for us it’s fresh for a creative artist it’s like oh no not again. In other words, make your own experiences. 🍇.....🦍

There are many artists out there that are trustworthy. I met Bob Layton in Oceanside California at the Boys and Girls Club. It was for a fun local 1 day comic con. I paid Bob up front to complete a Dr. Doom Commission. I fully anticipated he wouldn’t have time to complete it for sometime. He’s very popular and Ironman at its zenith at this time. Well I’ll be darned if he didn’t work on the piece during the convention and presented it to me at the end of the day without the long wait and hassle. Still each commissioner has to work a transaction they feel comfortable with.

Yes...believe me the average Misfits fan probably is looking for coins under the sofa cushion to buy Taco Bell. Having a family is the only thing that kept me from still being that guy. I still think it might have been a music aficionado that bought the piece. I believe we will know someday. Wally Wood can do very little wrong in my eyes so I’m with you on the cover. Living the dream in Southern California but yeah, a dealer has me beat 9 times out of ten if he really wants a piece. I round sales tax in my head at 10% + 20% BP. It’s daunting on some pieces I’m pursuing. You’re hoping to stay in a range and those add ins can price you out quickly. Even when you bake those in psychologically you can lose confidence in the ability to make a reasonable winning bid, sans the emotional heat of the moment high wire bid now 5 4 3 2 1.... Kirby Kamandi....that should have been a win. I preguesstimated $28K. I had time to rationalize that. But I didn’t pull the trigger. I regret that as it went 25K. The Finch. I don’t get it. I won’t knock it. That couldn’t have been a speculator buying that one could it? That had to be a highly desired nostalgia buy? To each his own. Modern/newer art vs. silver and Bronze Age? My nostalgia and artistic appreciation belongs with the latter. We have so much to learn over the next ten-twenty years. I no doubt will add a few Tradd Moore, Frank Quitely type pages to my portfolio. I’ve wanted to do this for awhile just haven’t found the right deals. The ASM cover went “heavy” “high.” I understand why the panel said that. I just disagree. It’s a well known cover and it’s an ASM cover. I think it’s one of the artists “stiffer” compositions and still it’s a childhood favorite. I bet the bidders felt the same way and Moon Knight has had a strange effect on speculators over the last few years. The FF splash final bid felt light. It’s really gorgeous. Sometimes we lament what’s missing from art and miss out on the good things right before our eyes. I was hoping Mike would mention his Avengers 52 splash. That sat on his sight for six years at $20K no takers. Needless to say it sold during the auction of The Avengers 58 meteoric rise to 90K. WTF that page just sold last year for $25-$30K. Are people not paying attention. Still it was mentioned by another boardie early on “Do you think the death of C Boseman would influence bidding?” I believed that it definitely would. The price jump surely had to be influenced by that. I would love to hear what Mike had to say about his 52 splash. Won’t that go for $100K at auction now the precedent set? Gene thanks for your thoughts. Always great insight buddy. mike the grapeApe

Gerry should have spotted Golden the T 💡

It’s inspired BWS. I really don’t have a read on $$$ though the potential to reach six figures not impossible. Scott makes a great point about the use as cover on the Trade. But I pause as comix4fun based on past numbers. On the art alone, I really think it’s a knockout. I’m a big fan of BWS artistically. Some numbers of late suggest a decline in love ($) but this one is terrific.

haha....yeah other threads have beat this to death but VIRU is certainly a candidate for nomination to the Urban Dictionary. Viru: Also known as the Golden Rule: To lack a perceived quality (exp patience) as ascertained by one who agrees to terms and does not follow through and gets P OFF when called on it. ”I didn’t keep my promise and you called me out so you lack VIRU.

I think it’s worth considerably more then $537 now. I mean as a conversation piece alone at the next dinner party/original comic art gathering. 😂

That’s the one..... He who lacks patience gets Goldened.....

Nice breakdown of the HA Signature Auction September 10-13. Right off the bat the Elias COC 19 cover. Listen I might be wrong and biased based on my own personal interest in the cover. The gang focused on the other covers in the run, what they went for, and lightly touched on the connection to Danzig. For me the art later used as the album cover to Die, Die My Darling by the Misfits Is what drove the bidding. On my life I budgeted $40k to win that cover and expected to take heat from fellow collectors for spending that much. It sailed well beyond that early on in the offering. As a comic cover alone it stands as a visceral thrilling attraction to death, sex smoking and drinking. However I believe The added crossover into music culture and the cult attraction to the Misfits ,I’m certain was in play. This was a music-Misfits fan that bought this IMO. Now saying all that the new owner might step out and say he just likes lady skeletons. Other neat conversations... Finch X-Men cover.... Kamandi splash...the more I look at it the sorrier I am I didn’t go for it. The Avengers 58 splash... Look forward to future shows. 🍇+🦍

Yes....outing an artist as a deadbeat or offending their “sensitive” nature can lead to getting “Michael Goldened.” I will not revisit that further. I am sure one of our knowledgeable board friends here will share the dreaded commission pic.... ok ok a hint $537 Gerry Turnbull