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On 5/29/2024 at 5:30 PM, valiantman said:

Just adding a little bit to the "watching" conversation...

I usually have 300 to 500 items on my watchlist on eBay.

The reasons that I watch are:

1) Price is too low at the time I click "watch", but I will unwatch when it gets to the normal price range

2) Price seems too high but I am interested to see if it sells because I might sell mine if so

3) I'm looking for "one of these" (watching four to six of the same item, to see if one might end low that I can grab)

4) Price seems too high but I am interested to see if I get a discount offer by email

5) I already own several of these and I want to see the finish price

Of the 300 to 500 items that I keep in my watchlist, my eBay account shows that I made 4 purchases last month. 3 out of those 4 were "Best Offer" or "Discount Offer" versus the starting price. The other was under $10 buy-it-now.

6) Accidental Clicks

Self-Submitted:
 

On 5/29/2024 at 4:26 PM, Hepcat said:

File copies? I've never heard of DC File copies.

I've been collecting DC Silver for over 30 years and never heard of it either.

It's plausible I guess?

On 5/29/2024 at 12:29 PM, Rick2you2 said:

Some prices will stay frozen, or traded privately at below market rates. A healthy amount of pricing is a function of nostalgia, and as hobbyists age out, so will the demand for what they love. 

Years back i would have totally agreed however I don't see 1950's or 1960's DC and Marvel Hero art dropping in price so not sure if it will happen with 70's and 80's anytime in the mid-term or longer...

Thanks for posting the pic for those of us that missed it Also refreshingly and genuinely glad to see your not one of those "wrap must be totally perfect" folks!

1/2 splash or 2/3 splash for example are OK terms.

"Splashy" is a pure cringe term used by the same type of total used car salesman loser that says "Minty", "Minty Fresh" or "Gemmy" to describe condition of a raw Comic Book, Trading Card or Vinyl Record. It's best to avoid at all costs doing business with anyone who uses those terms.

On 5/28/2024 at 4:30 PM, vodou said:

It was in the 1990s. 80s Marvel was dirt cheap, covers for a few hundred, splashes for 100-150, panel pages for well under a hundred.

You removed my disclaimer in your quoting; "warning broad generalization below" 

warning broad generalization below.

For Published pre 1990 Marvel and certain DC; It was never a hobby for the "poor", but now it's a hobby only for the "wealthy"

Yeah folks when you have $2500 a pop to spend not using credit on Spidey Super Story panel pages you are wealthy in relation to the USA median income.

On 8/21/2023 at 6:46 PM, blazingbob said:

"Dealers just want your money. Period"

Listen,  everybody in the room, the dealers,  the promoter running it and the concession stands selling food at a show want your money.

The only reason I'm there is to make a living,  I'm not paying to setup and chit chat all day.  

What I'm not there to do is lie to get your money or bury you so deep you never buy from me again.

But rest assured I am there to make sales.  

On 5/26/2024 at 9:46 PM, Brock said:

Some books, I watch to buy. Other books, I watch to… erm, watch.

In so many ways, the behaviour of people on the CGC boards is not reflective of the hobby as a whole. We are the voyeurs of the hobby, in that we like to watch. I am confident that our little fetish is not widespread.

When I sell books on eBay, they sometimes sell when there are no watchers or views. But when I have books with many watchers and many views, they are far more likely to sell. The correlation between watchers and sales is strong in my experience, and @whetteon’s data speaks to this correlation.

When I plan to bid on a regular auction I never watch it. I set my snipe and keep track of it on the snipe service dashboard. Manual bidding and watching is so 2002, was not aware so many folks still do that...

Has the market and this thread paradigm shifted to what is most watched rather than what is selling well?

On 5/26/2024 at 4:20 PM, whetteon said:

I have a website that notices the comics on eBay with the most bids, most watchers, and the most expensive. If you see a comic with a big group of watchers, many people are interested in buying that particular issue. When I filter by the Copper Age most watched CGC comics on eBay, I find it interesting to see comics I don't hear often climbing up on that list. It's like a Wizard top 15 list. Usually, I will find out what's "trending" before most.

Thanks for explaining. 

I do not agree that watchers is = buyers. I'm sure there are many like me who do it out of curiosity as we already own the item. No longer will I click on "Add To Watchlist" and have deleted my current watched comics due to what you have mentioned.

On 5/26/2024 at 9:31 AM, whetteon said:

And the fact that 9.8 copies are getting so many watchers can only mean it will go down from here.

Please explain your reasons for mentioning watchers in your posts as I do not understand (seriously no malice intended) how that correlates into sale/hammer price nor what it means in terms of "hot".

P.S. if it is a factor then I'll stop being someone who clicks on Watch Item for Comics on eBay to avoid being part of some larger market manipulation machination.

 

On 5/25/2024 at 3:52 PM, ADAMANTIUM said:

If you put in the fine print "reheating up!" 😂 maybe?

 

Or "Thawing"

On 5/25/2024 at 8:17 AM, whetteon said:

Marvel Comics Presents # 72 CGC 9.8 NM/MT WP Key Origin of Wolverine, Weapon X | eBay

 

It is still a low price but 34 watches. I've been noticing a lot of 72s getting more attention lately. It's also down from its 2021 high. Shocker I know.

When it was around $450 I submitted my copies, although they all received a 9.8 given current FMV i should not have bothered.   Same with other books like Venom Lethal Protector 1, ASM 328,361,365,375.  As and I'm proud to admit i don't sell Comics (or trading cards), I should have simply left them all in their Mylars.

Yep, I totally wasted my money submitting high population glut or glut adjacent stuff. It could have been much worse however as I could have been one of the Moe Ron's buying them at those 2020-2022 prices

P.S. I now include Booster Gold 1 and Spectre 54 as books I should not have submitted. As a NON-seller finally at this juncture I've learned the lesson of never submitting a book when it's hot

On 5/24/2024 at 12:37 PM, ygogolak said:

Ended at $405. 12 month is down. Was selling in the $600 range. Still an impressive book and sales prices.

So cooling, not hot

then again cooling not cold may very well be the new hot...

Fast cash grab at the expense of Brand perception, reputation, and future business.

The only folks who should be happy about the deal are the Execs using it to pad their bonus before skedaddling and PSA who is overjoyed that CGC is no longer even a viable threat of any kind...

On 5/20/2024 at 5:15 AM, DaveBowen said:

This is an odd seller. All of the recent sales are Private Listing. Even though I've sold on eBay forever I've never used Private Listing and am not even sure what the use case is. The sellers live listings seem to be mostly for Mylars or super common modern slabs at a floor price of about $85. Strange indeed.

Then uses 2 of their likely many eBay accounts to get this to show up - "2 people have this in their cart".

To quote Forest Gump; "Dee Bahg is as Dee Bahg does"

not an error just running a bit low on the Yellow ink

eBay likely (and only) pulled due to image in the auction offering an off-ebay deal. 

Folks ensure to use strong passwords (or long pass phrases) for your eBay accounts!
https://www.cisa.gov/secure-our-world/use-strong-passwords

On 5/18/2024 at 10:39 PM, Lightning55 said:

That said, given a choice of buying 2 otherwise identical books, one with a large printer's crease and one without, I would think most people would choose the one without. So there may be a value difference. 

Exactly! 

On 5/18/2024 at 12:29 PM, scburdet said:

I want to know who is bidding on it. Part of the scam driving up the price, or are buyers really that gullible?

IME many Comic and Trading collectors are that gullible. If it was offered as a BIN way below FMV then add dealers into that mix from an angle of greed.

The primary incentive for not using the folks in Newport Beach, whose slabs have significantly higher resale value, was CGC's fast turn-around. With now glacial turn-around and line cutting might as well crank up Zepp's "Goin' to California"

Huge thanks!!!  While I'm probably the only one who ever views the set type, I'll now be able to do so without scratching my head 😀

^ we do overlap at 150

Loved his inking on Sal B's Cap pencils... Good family man and great father mentioned by his daughter on FB.  May he RIP.