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3 hours ago, Chaykin Stevens said:

Iron Man's armour switched from grey to gold in TOS #40.  Ditko pencilled #47-49 - would they go for a premium?

Well, TOS #39 (grey armor) was complete last I heard (was FS on eBay a few times with a high Buy It Now but to my knowledge never sold) and I don't think those pages count as they'd likely be 100k each.  The Ditko pages from #47-49 are all out there and while they sell for less than Spidey pages, they would definitely be in the 10k-20k range as well.

Unfortunately for public sales, they just don't exist for A pages that I'm aware of.  A lot of pages from #42 have bounced around but the really good ones haven't surfaced in years.  I understand a few of the stronger pages sold between 5-10k privately, but this was probably 2-3 years ago that I heard about it.

8 minutes ago, heartened said:

Great info.  I have moved up the 2Up Colan art (both DD and TOS/IM) to 10-20K based on those confirmed sales.  Added a Colan regular size category to the 5-10K range.  This makes a lot of sense, and I'm glad we have fleshed out the Colan market.

Since we're on the topic what about 2up Heck IM TOS pages?  3k-5k seems way too low for 'A' pages.  I would think 10-20k as well and would consider most of the 'A' pages as those from his silver armor issues (pre #48) as those seem to never come to market (at least publicly) anymore and Heck OA in general has taken a leap since Kirby and Ditko have gotten so expensive.  Heck Avengers would easily 5k-10k for 'A' pages.  3-5k would cover any early Heck Avengers pages but I've rarely seen any 'A' pages on the market for years.

1 hour ago, heartened said:

New York shows definitely had it all.  I saw all those books back then but alas I didn't have much money.  I was able to get the Grendel issues and Primer 2, but not Albedo 2 for a while.  I had copies of TMNT 2 and up but could never snag a first (or even second) print TMNT 1.  I had only the smaller sized 3rd print.  Another really hot book back then was the DKR signed and limited number hardcover.  Haven't seen that for sale in a long time, but it was super-cool.

Well this brings up another memory from this bygone era which is that regional shows meant regional pricing.  I remember the sentiment that if you were buying books in NYC you were paying NYC (ie top) prices.  There were comic shops in rougher areas of Philly that priced books accordingly because their demographic wasn't going to pay full retail.  You could find some pretty incredible deals in those stores.  Obviously this was way before eBay, etc.

1 hour ago, comiconxion said:

I believe T&I was Seattle based.  I used to see a lot more copies of Albedo on the West Coast when I travelled, but I remember finding a copy of #1 (2nd print) in a comic shop in Columbus, OH for $35 back in the 80's or early 90's. So, they made it all over the place. 

Chuck, its funny but I never thought about it until now how where the publisher was likely affected how common the books were in that area.  I grew up near Comico (and regretfully never visited for literally no good reason) and Primer #2 and the 3 issues of Grendel were fairly common at shows in the area and I never even considered why that was until now.

On 1/14/2021 at 9:22 AM, comiconxion said:

Remembering back to 1986/87, we had dealers in the DC area charging $200 for Albedo #2 back then.  At the time, there wasn't a lot of recognition of the different printings of #0 and #1 (except for the "Yellow" #0 which was selling for $800 if you could find one).  At the time, I think #0's were selling between $35-50 for 3rd and 2nd printings.  1st printings you didn't see very often, but imagine they were going for $125-150.  #1's were going for $60-100 from what I remember.  So, even back then, people were valuing the #2 a bit more, but occasionally you'd find them in boxes for cheaper as the price guides weren't keeping up with the market.  

#3's were plentiful as the print run on those jumped to 10,000 with that issue (from 2,000 on issues #2).  American Comics (the mail order company) had bought out the inventory of those.  At one point, I remember they were blowing them out for $.20/copy because they had so many.  Crazy to see the prices on them today.

Its funny to think back on how regional finding books was.  I was in suburban Philly and I bought the first Albedo #2 I ever saw at a show and Im not sure I recall seeing one again for quite some time.  There were a fair amount of cons in Philly back then, especially considering what a fringe hobby comic book collecting was in the mid-80s.  But I always imagined NYC was the mecca where if you lived in that city, no matter what book you were looking for, you were going to find a copy without much of a struggle.  

4 hours ago, heartened said:

hahaha, curiously, I see no mention of Albedo #2 in the posted image above you?  Maybe they didn't realize #2 was the really hot book

It took the hobby a little while to catch on but for all of us kids who were psyched about TMNT, Usagi was the best "copy cat" anthropomorphic "ninja" to follow them so we all were instant fans who wanted Albedo #2.  In fact, I'd say the older collectors who were writing these newsletters didn't really "get it" right away and so their attention was on Albedo #0 and #1 due to rarity, which was therefore more expensive, but again made no sense to us because no one cared about the animals in those books!  If you looked at a CVM or CBG six months later, Usagi's appeal was much more apparent.

56 minutes ago, heartened said:

Fish Police was great!!  Beautiful covers too.  Albedo was hot but #0 and #1 were the two really expensive books.  The appeal of #2 only came years later.

Blasphemy!  Yes, as crazy as the market was at the time, the early prints of #0 primarily and #1 secondarily were "hot" but #2 was always desirable as well and just as hard to find.  #3 was where the issues became much more common.  But Usagi was an instant hit and that led to Critters #1 and his own series.  I remember finding a #2 and being far more excited than seeing an early print of #0.

23 hours ago, batman_fan said:

First pickup of 2021 and likely the only one.  I will re-frame so it looks like my other Sunday.

Just have to reiterate congratulations.  I would say a Peanuts Sunday like this has always been on my bucket list but not a top priority.  This is probably my favorite Sunday I've ever seen for sale for a lot of personal reasons.  You're lucky to have this!

Minor add that pages with the hero and a main villian command a premium and it they are battling, they command a premium above that.  I think the higher value pages could certainly be parsed out where a Ditko ASM page with Spidey on the page is >100 but if a villian is on it with Spidey its >125 and if they are battling its >150.

4 hours ago, batman_fan said:

Thanks, really excited to add another piece to the collection.  My goal is 20 pieces I love but I seriously doubt I will be able to stop at 20.

Kudos to you for finding it at a small auction house but with the vig and tax it doesnt seem like it was a “deal” per se but what do think it mightve hammered at in Heritage? You certainly had less competition where you found it especially given that its such a stellar example with a great provenance/history. 

22 hours ago, batman_fan said:

This is an interesting Sunday. From November 1959  

 

Wonderful piece!  Very well bought...

A clean, well-presenting #33 CGC 1.8 sold for Make An Offer on HA for 36k in October.  Its in GPA.

14 minutes ago, manetteska said:

No, I don't think you did, but one more episode (12/18) for the finale (which is what @awakeintheashes was referring to).

Again this is all speculation but Ahsoka said she wouldn't train Grogu and then Mando puts him on the hilltop where he uses his Jedi powers to reach out to another Jedi - who?  Ezra?  Well isn't Ezra dead?  No idea, it was never confirmed, but what a great way to introduce him...

Or Ahsoka changes her mind and comes back to save Grogu leading into her series...and Ezra maybe gets introduced then...

42 minutes ago, awakeintheashes said:

Not many Jedi alive during the time period,

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and Ahsoka already said she wouldn't train him.

Question is:

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Is Ezra alive...

 

So thats the big 'what if' - is that the final scene in the finale?