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Adam Hughes and Art Adams are two prominent artists who come to mind.

I think this maybe the influence of manga.

I still feel like a newbie though!

https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1651776 This piece represents everything positive about the original comic art collecting hobby to me. This is a page from the Jonni Future story from Tomorrow Stories Special #1. It came about because another collector, Robert C, contacted me to inquire whether I’d consider selling him a piece of art from my collection. The piece wasn’t for sale or trade. But Robert had a piece in his collection that I liked and asked if Robert would consider selling that to me instead. He didn’t want to sell either. So neither of us wanted to sell and we couldn’t make any deal. But we continued communicating and chatting about the hobby (and life). And we actually became friends. To the point that Robert very generously gifted this piece to me because he felt it would go well in my collection. It’s an awesome piece of art and I’m grateful to have it. I’ve often heard people say that they love this hobby because of all the friendships it has led to. I now personally understand what they mean.

Until you say ‘woof’

It occurs to me that comparing a page of comics art to a piece of illustration art or advertising art is like comparing a clip from a movie (that hasn’t been sound edited or colour corrected or maybe even had the dialogue track added) to a finished music video or an advert. Taken in that raw form, the clip will be inferior to the music video or advert. But when seen in the context of the full completed film, the clip can be far more (assuming the film itself is worthy). And if the clip is a good representation of the overall theme of the film and works well as a unit of storytelling, that clip can even be classic work of art itself, much like the comic page.

Some amazing and diverse talent here. Here are some re-creations I did when I was a teenager.

Mid 30s. Not exactly wet behind the ears, but feel free to hit me up.

This does seem to be the case unfortunately. Throw in some cross-hatching or ink splatter, and collectors lose their mind! Takes the skills of somebody like Moebius to alter this perception.

I’d think no one is losing here. As for the art itself, I’ll quote @Rick2you2: “Art is unique, but desire isn’t”. The offerer walks away with the satisfaction of knowing he has avoided enabling the seller’s Richard-ish behaviour. As for the seller, instead of having an item unsold at X, it remain unsold at X+Y (and maybe someone even buys it at some point). So he hasn’t lost anything either. So really, it’s a win-win all around. 🥳

Would you be putting up your review here @glendgold ? I’ll look forward to your review to decide whether to get the book or not 😁

I tried going after the Understanding Comics pages. But someone else just wanted it more and wouldn’t be denied. First time I’ve bid on Heritage. First time I’ve even considered paying more than $1,000 on comic art. But what a thrill!

I think I may have gone into ‘A Beautiful Mind’ territory with putting up art on my walls during the lockdown.

LOVE THIS QUOTE! Pithy and true. I’m having a t-shirt made saying this.

I appreciate this and these are exactly the factors I’m taking into consideration is deciding what art I should go after in the next five years. I figure that I should go after the art that has been rising at a more steeper pace than spending those funds on a Kirby example. Not because I’d want to sell it later but because that art may well become unaffordable in five years time. Whereas, if I was to wait say 10 years for an Kirby example, I appreciate I would likely pay more for it then than I would now; but hopefully the not-as-steep increase on Kirby can be compensated by the increase in income over this time. Seems you’re allowed say it. Just not draw it 😁

Interesting observation. I’m minded to agree. Having said that, curves go in both directions. Curves can be: ( ) ( ) Or ) ( ( ) And yet, most (all?) of the cheesecake art falls in the latter.

Hmm, interesting observation about Kirby. Articulates in words what I’ve been feeling internally and couldn’t quite put into a coherent thought. When I started dabbling in OA a few years and, I did think Kirby was more interesting than the rest of the Silver/Bronze age art (none of which holds much interest to me). But I wonder if I was swayed by his stature as a key creator or if I was truly attracted to the art. And whilst I was previously keen to get a Kirby example, I still haven’t bought one and no longer feel particularly compelled to get one. Also, there is always Kirby art coming up in auctions or with dealers. So it doesn’t feel like there is any urgency. Thanks for the insight @delekkerste

I did scratch my head and wonder, if US tax law is anything like the UK, how anyone would deduct any portion of these purchases from their taxable income if they weren’t paying directly to a registered charity. Thanks for clarifying.

Excellent page. This period of X-Men is before my time, but this certainly seems like an important and meaningful story page. Congratulations!

@Bronty @vodou I enjoyed reading this exchange! 😁 Kim Jung Gi !

Ah right, the ‘is it moral just because it’s legal’ issue. Thanks Glen.

What was the Byrne v Miller 1987position?

I believe the thread was bumped due to Joe Sinnott sadly passing away; it was mentioned in this thread that he refused to sign the fake FF48 cover.

You can blame @alxjhnsn and his ‘teach-a-man-to-fish’ for that. 😉 We can’t really begrudge reps and artists of their pricing for tomorrow of the art from newer comic books. They see how great artists in the 80s and 90s sold their art to collectors for next to nothing and now that art goes for tens of thousands, whilst those artists get no benefit of that; the newer artists would naturally want to avoid such a situation. Now, if they price their art to the point that no one is buying at all, then that’s also a lesson to them. But from what I’ve seen, art from current comics generally sells well and sells fast.

As far as I’m concerned, seeing something listed double or more above what I consider reasonable is only MARGINALLY better than the ‘make offer’ crowd. I wouldn’t want to engage with either. I have a friend who makes tons of low ball offers at 50% or less. Most sellers don’t respond or politely reject, and sometimes not so politely reject. Once in a while, he manages to reach a deal. It sounds exhausting and I just don’t have the energy for that, at least not for something that’s supposed to be a fun hobby.