Rick2you2

I have no idea what my art is worth. I don't have any plans to die, but if that event should occur, I will let my children figure it out. Or maybe, they will just cover their homes with Phantom Stranger images. I like that idea.

Still don’t get it.

When a piece really is fresh to market, there is no track record of what people previously paid for it. I know I would not be anxious to pay, say, a 30% premium for art I could have had for that much less just 6 months ago. Since each piece is unique, it’s actual market value can’t be calculated when it is fresh to market. So, the theoretical sky’s the limit. In that sense, it is a thing.

As a word of caution, don’t let what you read change your personal aesthetics and convince you to buy something which doesn’t really resonate with you. No matter what I have read or heard, I just can’t get a personal appreciation of Jack Kirby’s work. And that includes reading his biography. I would not be happy later if I bought one of his pieces, or paid that kind of money for it. Also, don’t confuse pricing with quality. A lot of the higher pricing is driven by nostalgia, not just quality. Personally, I think that Tom Mandrake’s work on the Spectre is particular under-valued by the market, even though it checks off all the boxes I like to see in a piece. So, be careful what you read.

Only if you operate on the theory of cash-basis. Take an extreme example. If you buy something and the market for it freezes, but everything else goes up incrementally, you effectively lose money every day you hold it. And, it sticks like a bone in your throat while you look at it.

C A T had a bad day today. I am getting images of comics from ComicConnect. To me, that's as useless as t*ts on a boar.

Does it shoot out from the pointy top, like a whale spout, or blow out the sides?

Spreadsheet? I don’t think I know who the artists are on some of the things I bought. I generally buy what I like, and that’s it; but I do take photo’s of the images and now use a shorthand code for the artist’s name and source (usually).

? Allen Iverson?

Brain from the Brotherhood of Evil.

I can tell you that finding a published full body splash of the Phantom Stranger is rare. So, they tend to be expensive, given the relatively low prices most of the character’s art goes for.

And saying it’s okay to cheat for a few dollars is better? I agree with Gene on this one that anything which all submitters don’t have to pay equally, like taxes and shipping, should be excluded.

True, but I can virtually guarantee that as you move up the ladder in price, you are going to find the higher cost items tend to include more favorites than the lower priced items. - as a tendency.

I had suggested $5,000 because it has been mentioned on these boards that the vast majority of art sells for less. The $500 price also makes sense because a lot of art sells for less. How is someone to realistically compare a Frazetta cover to a lot of other work?

Of course it isn’t a career maker. The point of this exercise is show off great art you bought at a low price. And to pretend there isn’t an element of competition here, as someone else mentioned, is to ignore the obvious. Some of us live by strict rules, like lawyers, so what is really just for fun, can make us feel like we are cheating. What fun is that? Let me suggest a workaround. Instead of a hard cap of $500, allow entries for no more than around $500. And, if someone feels that is too loose a standard, it’s better than this.

Looks like the balls got detached from the shaft.

Seriously? I love looking at some of that cr*p , particularly the commissions. Not to buy, more like OMG. Next up, the European “soft porn” comic art. I wish I could read the word balloons. What kind of stories is that art framing? And by the way, who is Jordi Benet? I gather he is a real artist, but doesn’t he make enough getting his stuff published to stop clogging up Comic Art Tracker?

You could also cap the number of submissions per person to a lower number, like with the Emmy Awards allowing 1 episode for evaluation.

Any interest next year in a separate category for $501-$5000? That way, entries don’t have to compete with the really heavy hitters.

Okay, then how about it here?

There is a $500 price point now. Why not a higher, mid-level one, too?

For next year, let me suggest an additional price point. In addition to $500, let me suggest $5,000. That is probably the maximum amount many collectors will spend on OA, so lumping the values of $501 and up together seems a bit unfair.

Poor bubbala.

Agreed. The point is to show off our successes with all things being equal. This isn’t a situation where we are looking for our cost basis for tax purposes so we can figure out a potential profit on sale.

Personally, I think that only rarely does a storyline justify a premium over the art (although quality sequencing is part of the art itself which does deserve a premium). Is this storyline the next Watchmen? The next Killing Joke? Probably not. Eventually, most of those storylines will be forgotten by the next collector generations and the pricing will go with it. There will be a Next Final Crisis on Infinite Earths. But 10k for a storyline pair of pencil pages? No way that is worth a gamble; and even if this is a 1 in a million moonshot that works, odds are it is part of the other 999,999.