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Actually, I have recently gotten a response to an NFS, so they can and do respond. But there are also some posts with no status, or which say something like make offer, or even quote a price. What is the problem with marking something dormant after 5 years?

See below.

At the very least, flagged as dormant. They sometimes include art I would like to buy, and am disappointed—needlessly—when I get no response. Even a negative can be better.

The problem I have with Mylar toploaders is larger off sizes, or smaller sizes when I don’t need a lot of them. E Gerber will take orders on the phone for lots of sizes, if you buy a minimum of 10, sometimes 50. Anyone know where I can buy smaller numbers on line? For really large pieces, I am thinking of buying two mylars of slightly larger than half the relevant size, removing the sealed seam on one of them, and then fastening the two halves of the one I cut to the uncut one, maybe joining them with an epoxy or tape. Anyone tried something like that before? Did it work?

How many of us, if we even think about the subject, just expect it to slip out the back door, along with jewelry and lots of other stuff?

Mixed views on the subject. Mylar is archival; polypropylene, like used in Itoyas is not. But if you keep them generally in dark, reasonably cool places, I don’t think it will matter for decades. I have some art which was not stored in Mylar, but kept in regular plastic frames. The images are fine, but on some, the paper shows slight browning after 30 years. Others don’t. Same with old comics.

Not if you want to buy something and you get no response you won't.

Perhaps a simpler solution would start with Bill first sending out an email asking if the Owner is still interested in the hobby, but then gets no response. He can add the word “Dormant” to the top. He can also decide if he wants to set a time limit when the word dormant results in a take down.

My ex-wife was one. Fitting description.

Sounds like you are doing a valuation.😱

How is someone supposed to price the value of wealth? And if they could, forcing sales on those assets to pay taxes would be a great way to destroy the value of physical assets. Too much would appear on the market. And then there are intangible assets, like intellectual property. What is the value of potential reprints not issued, or, say, having Superman in a possible new movie, or for that mater, any use of copyrights, trademarks or patents? I could see a version of the proposal applicable to business since they have to generate financial statements, but being the accountant for that task sounds like a job waiting for a lawsuit for over or undervaluation.

For additional protection, you can also put them in top loaders (Mylar) and put the top loaders in a slightly larger Itoya.

I don’t think Thanos was in the series. But, he just had a guest appearance in Legacies.

That show was so under-appreciated. I grew to like it more than Buffy.

Actually, you pretty much nailed it. A couple of other items. The page has nicely balanced panels. Notice how well panel 1 plays off against panel 5, right down to the fog. To me, that has a major effect on appearance and value, particularly if the piece has no word balloons. Also, in my case, I generally won’t approach a dealer about a lower price by much, so if it is too optimistic, I walk away. And, if too many pieces are too exuberantly priced, I sometimes don’t look at other stock he has, figuring more of the same. I also agree with your valuation.

If that is the market for a particular piece, then that’s the answer. But there are also a lot of pieces I see listed by dealers, in some cases for years, and they don’t move. So a listed price doesn’t really answer the question. I would expect dealers to leave extra price room for both negotiation and extra profit. Also, percentages are not really relative. A 50% differential on a $1,500 piece is just $750. On an $11,000 piece, it’s a lot more money.

You are missing the point of this thread. Read the OP again.

But, discussing and debating relative pricing is still fair game, even if someone doesn’t want to buy it. There are people here who have extraordinary knowledge on this subject; I would hope they share it.

You aren’t the first to comment on the possibility of us being in the early stages of tulip mania. Go over the threads, and there is a lot of concern on the subject, which some boardies take seriously and others ignore. I only spend money on this stuff that I can easily afford. I have said this before, but in my mind, a lot of the newer stuff is high quality. The pricing on older stuff is often nostalgia driven, which only lasts so long as those with nostalgia are alive. Bottle cap collectors, anyone? You can get a lot of pleasure out of this hobby by buying things for less than $1,000. My favorite piece, and by no means my most valuable, or desirable to others, was only $600.

As I wrote initially, this thread is partly intended to educate, not draw derision. The closest analog in terms of time that I found was the auctioned page I mentioned above on Heritage. Personally, I think the price is quite high, based on published prices and even some published offers on other material, but I am not aware of what private sellers buy and sell them for. I would think it should be closer to 6-7k, but I would not spend my money on it at that price. I don’t love it, and to me, that is real money.

As the OP, I did ask that question about pricing which you asked me. To answer another of your questions, I picked the closest comp I could find to post. Vess is a lot cheaper in other series, covers are cheaper, and even his other painting is a lot cheaper. Also, not everything goes up these days, like Barry Windsor Smith, and while the page is more interesting than a traditional 6 panel, not a helluva lot. I am a big fan of clever border designs, where there is a lot of material to cram onto a page, and this one is not special. Nicely handled, but not special. Personally, I don’t add much value to a source, like ASM, except for origin or special issues, and this isn’t one of them. So while I really do like it, I would not put it on my “to die for” list. For me, it would be a buy but at a much lower price point. Much lower. Hence, this post.

Anthony’s is selling p. 17 from issue 395 for $299. Not signed, nicer page I think.

Why not just comment on the pricing?

So you agree the price seems way too high?

I deliberately did not mention you were the listing seller, but since you brought it up, yes, the seller’s demand for price setting is a good reason why it is so high. But that is not a reason to ignore the fact it does not seem to be supported by the market and I wanted to open up that discussion. The fact that the Sandman is not in his own book usually reduces value, because that is where people want to see itheir leads. Unrealistic pricing is bad for the buyers, who don’t buy, as well as the sellers. So bringing it up helps everyone.