shadroch

The Horror!

Outside of #1 and #8, the books would need to hit a 9.6 to make any money. As the rest of the books are not particularly popular, I would not waste the money and time needed to flip them. If you think they will hit 9.8, it's a good deal.

Many years ago, long before CGC existed, the consensus was that since so many SA Marvels suffered from this defect, that it wouldn't knock the grades as much. By the time I started collecting bigtime in the mid-1970s, it was the industry standard. I think there are a few examples of CGC allowing a defect in some modern books, based on paper stock issues and such, but I don't really collect or deal in modern books

When you factor in the Marvel chipping, that book is a 8.0.

That's a great story but you seem to be comparing a guy who overgrades to an industry that manufactures and sell counterfeit products.

So you used your own knowledge, bid accordingly and ended up happy with the deal you got. Sounds like a perfectly horrible experience. The OP has managed to find the one seller on ebay who overgrades and over-hypes his goods. Thank god, now ebay will be safe. Now that the seller has been exposed to about a half percent of his audience, I'm sure he will change his ways. Let's do a follow-up in sixty days and see how this affects his sales.

If you want a book that CGC will grade a 9.4, simply buy a book that's already graded. If you can't tell that the book you bought raw as a 9.2 is a 7.0, perhaps you need to avoid buying raw books. If you think CGC is the ultimate authority when it comes to a grade, why dabble with raw books? Ebay grading is and has been a joke since the first book was sold. It's an ebay 9.4 is a punchline. It's a jungle out there.

Can you elaborate on this? You bought a book from him and were happy with your purchase but now you aren't? Why?

Why? Not everyone is a fan of CGC. Some people remember how they set up an undisclosed pressing factory for select clients. Some remember the shadiness of the Ewert-Schmell affair. Some of us remember the same book being resubmitted multiple times and getting multiple grades.Some people realize a CGC grade is nothing more than an opinion. I'm in the process of sending in $50,000 in consignments to MCS. Could I make more if I laid out tens of thousands to grade them and waited six months to sell them? Perhaps, but the lost opportunities of having my money and goods tied up for the next six months simply doesn't do it for me. I don't slab books.I don't press books. I buy slabbed books but I buy based on the book, not the label.I've unslabbed a few books over the past twenty years and if and when I sell them, I will grade them. I unslabbed a TOS 52 in 1999, long before it broke out. Does anyone think I should disclose that CGC once graded it a 4.5? How long must a book be free before its former grade is irreverent?

You are comparing people who sell restored books as unrestored to someone who is selling pressed books at grades higher than they were pre- pressing. If that brings you some comfort, go for it.

So disagreeing with a CGC grade is okay as long as you go under it but disagree with it going the other way and you are scum.

So he is damned for not answering people’s questions and damned for answering them, as well. He says he pressed the book. It looks like the book was pressed. What more do you need?

I traded for a Spidey 11 with a very reputable forum member. He said it was a cracked CGC 5.5. I recently sent the raw book to MCS on consignment and they graded it a 4.5. Where is the outrage? Where is the justice?

He told a forumite that he pressed the book.

That makes as much sense as saying once a book is graded a 7.5 by someone that it will always be a 7.5 no matter what is done to.

CGC says taking the book out of the slab voids their grade so once a book is liberated, the former CGG grade is moot. If I had an obvious flaw pressed out, why would CGC’s opinion of its former state matter?

So the book that was once a 7.5 was pressed and improved. The strange thing is if it was resubmitted and came back a 9.4, no one would complain but without that CGC seal of approval some think the guy is a crook.

Just wanted to share this. Originally signed by Kirby in 1990 it had Stan and Joe Simon sign it almost 20 years later. Can anyone name the figure above Barda?

The avengers was sold on the same site I bought it from. You are pretty quick to make accusations about things you are ignorant of. do you know if the book in question was pressed? Do you know anything about it?

So if someone buys a CGC 7.5, has the book pressed, resubmits it and CGC now calls it a 9.4, you guys are okay with it being sold as a 9.4 but if they do the exact same thing but skip resubmitting it they are scum? I bought a 2.0 Avengers #1, sent it to CGC who graded it a 4.0, and then sold it on the same site I bought it from. Should the site have mentioned this was previously graded a 2.0 by their graders? My book doubled in value without anything being done to it.

In your circumstances, GPA is not worth it. What you want to do is check out completed sales on ebay, and also to check out mycomicshops inventory. It is invaluable to a person like you. Looking up Rom 36, you would see a VF copy sells for $8. Sending the book in for grading cost many times that. You also would see that only two people have added the book to their want lists in the last six months indicating the book is in low demand, and lastly the fact that there is no yellow section for the book reinforces the fact that this is a slow moving book with little demand. Now look at Rom #1. Lots of yellow , indicating high demand. You can see a VF copy sells for $36 raw or $57 slabbed. You also can see that 8 people added it to their want list in the last few months, showing the book has moderate demand. As a rule, super-hero books do much better than non-superhero books and Marvel does better than the other companies. I would set aside any Archies, any Dells, any Charltons and any funny animal and western books for now and concentrate on the superhero books with 10 and 12 cent cover prices. Those are where your money is most likely to be found. That's not to say the rest are worthless, but they are usually worth less.

Pre-internet, these had more of a pop to them. The X-Men at the State Fair one was worth more in 1988 than it is today. Kool oddities that have a niche but supply exceeds demand for the most part.

Sent three packages FED EX Ground on Friday. One to Tejas and two to the same address in NYC. As of now, one got to the address in NYC.

I'd ask for some evidence that this happened system wide. If it happened to a bunch of books, I'd pay. Absent proof of widespread computer error, I would be very reluctant.