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On 5/31/2019 at 5:24 PM, rsouxlja7 said:

Two questions from someone who does not normally "speculate" on books:

1) Amazing Spider-Man 5 seems to have increased in value alongside FF5. Should I hold this book or keep holding for a Dr. Doom movie appearance?

2) I also have an ASM13 that I was wondering if I should sell now or if prices will continue to rise until the movie comes out in July. Any future upside beyond your typical value increases over time?

I would not sell any early Spiderman comics. They're only going to go up, not down. I would grab any under issue #20 that I could.

22 hours ago, Kevin76 said:

Just got this yesterday.  

 

 

Wow! I know that set you back.

6 hours ago, Darkowl said:

Nope, because we were discussing H181. Actually, we were discussing both books simultaneously, so I could see how things could get blurred. 

Well, I know that prices on these books can't keep rising indefinitely; they have to top out eventually. IMHO, I think a (sorely needed) new X-Men team, produced by Disney with good CGI, would really do wonders for the value of GS X-Men 1. I'll be very interested to see what happens on eBay when Disney announces that a new X-Men movie is in the works.

On 5/30/2019 at 4:04 PM, Darkowl said:

Depends on the grade. If you look at the census, you'll see that a few have actually decreased in value. My guess is that the other grades will follow.

I'm quite sure we're going to see a dip in GSXM1 in the next few months, then 5 years from now a movie will be about to be released, and the madness starts all over again.

GSXM1 was undervalued, but it wasn't this undervalued. People are going to soon realize that, which is precisely why I'm dumping my copy. 

Well, from what I can see on eBay, it would take almost double the price to replace my CGC 4.5 since I bought it at the start of the year. Maybe other grades are doing something different, but I'm quite happy with the progress at my grade.

On 5/15/2019 at 11:11 AM, Darkowl said:

It's possible, but i just don't see it playing out that way. All books get to a financial comfort spot where people aren't willing to pay much higher. Take a look at AF15. Some grades have actually taken substantial hits in value. I thought AF15 was the poster child for perpetual comic book growth. If AF15 isn't immune, then nothing is.

Speaking of continual growth, I still haven't seen a slowdown on Hulk #181. It just keeps rising into the stratosphere. I just hope the same thing starts with GS X-Men 1.

3 hours ago, Mucheee1 said:

I remember buying this when I was a kid - but it was "Where Monsters Dwell."

3 hours ago, newshane said:

It's his book. He can do what he wants with it. 

2 hours ago, pemart1966 said:

I'm not a numismatist nor am I American but I don't think that there's such an animal as an 1804 Morgan dollar...

Yep, you're correct - my bad. At least I had the date right.

I understand if he doesn't want to display the most famous Action #1. But what's the deal with no photographs? At all? Have any of these top graders ever asked him why he's refused a single photograph?

I thought "The Dentist" had the best copy, but I wanted to make sure. I've heard of him over the years, and I have heard all the talk about him supposedly having the nicest copy of Action #1 of all of them. However, a red flag has popped up in my mind over this and has been nagging me. If he does have the nicest copy of the most valuable book in Comicdom, why hasn't it been inspected, graded, and slabbed by CGC? Why has he not allowed so much as a photo taken of it? If *I* had the holy grail of comics, you'd better believe I'd be showcasing it occasionally at, say, the major ComicCons for everyone to drool over while I stood in the background and watched the adulation like a proud papa. So why all the secrecy? People display super-valuable things all the time, so security shouldn't be an issue. The only logical reason I can possibly think of is that maybe it's "merely" a tie for that 9.0 copy that sold for $3 million - or that it's, say, an 8.5 (what a travesty) and would NOT make it the top Action #1 copy out there. So he keeps it under wraps to keep the legend alive.

I dunno - most people with other mega-collectibles, like a Monet painting or an 1804 Morgan dollar, display them. There are at least photos of them for people to view and critique. For this Action #1 - nothing. For all we know, his dog accidentally chewed it to pieces years ago, and everyone thinks he still has it. Maybe what I'm saying is blasphemy against the Holy Grail (have mercy), but someone else must surely be thinking the same thing.

I know that ComicConnect paid over $3 million not long back for a 9.0 Action #1. Is there another copy considered to be in better condition? And if so, who currently owns it?

9.0 Action #1

I bought a 3.0 ASM #4 about three years ago, and I'm kind of disappointed that it's only gone up in value just a tad. I thought with the renewed popularity of Spider-Man with him appearing in the movies, along with #4 being the first Sandman that it would have gone up more.

20 hours ago, Supa-Bad-Mofo said:

Finally! A personal grail! Been a long wait, but I ended up with a beauty thanks to a fellow boardie! Love it!

That looks like a 9.0 to me. Maybe you could crack it, then resubmit it to, say, CBCS, for an 8.5 or even 9.0.

8 hours ago, Pontoon said:

The current topic prompted me to see what's doing on ebay. I'm counting 11 TOS #1 and 12 TTA #1! Seems like an unusually high amount. Of course at a glance it looks like a fair amount are priced on the aggressive side.

Compare the sales of TTA and TOS #1 with the number of JIM #1s an ST #1s - I see them on eBay (or anywhere else) very seldom in any condition. Kind of odd, since they're weren't part of the WWII paper drives.

Incidentally, I had a chance to buy a mid-grade JIM #1 way back in '97 for $700, which I thought was a king's ransom. I decided against it, thinking it was out of my price range. Why, oh, why?

Between TOS #1 and TTA #1, which should cost me less in, say, a 3.0-4.0 grade? Even at that low grade, it's going to push my budget to the edge. I wanted to try and get one of these before the ceiling went even higher. I can forget a JIM #1 or ST #1 - they're out of my league now.

I've seen some 9.6 and even 9.8 GS X-Men #1s posted here. Has there ever been a copy graded at a 10.0? If so, I wonder what one would sell for at that grade.

On 5/8/2019 at 10:04 PM, Martin Sinescu said:

Also.....I'm in.

First time I've ever owned a copy of this book, too. Long overdue.

Wow! (Do I want that boat - or that 9.6 GS X-Men #1?)  :>))

3 hours ago, mysterio said:

Here is another of my recent pickups, though I made the deal about six months ago. Finally got it paid off and feel like I can show it off.

Nice! That's the next to-buy comic on my bucket list. Golly, I was only looking at a 3.0, and here you have a 7.0. Maybe I should up the ante and buy a 9.0.....

On 5/5/2019 at 6:55 AM, Sweet Lou 14 said:

Original Owner

I don't guess you're going to mention how much these cost you? If the OO was a collector, too - don't. LOL

Just curious what are the hardest Tales To Astonish issues to find, or the ones that come up for sale the least often?

On 5/5/2019 at 6:06 PM, Kevin76 said:

This book will continue to climb as long as the movie speculation continues and won't settle down until after the movie comes out, we all know the XMen are going to join the MCU and it won't happen for a long time. I should have bought this book a while ago but wanted other books instead and a GSX1 was put on the back burner, it's such a common book but people gotta have it. FF48 is seeing the same thing..prices will continue to rise until we are sitting in our seats at the theater then it depends on how good the movie is that will decide if your investment holds it's market value..rinse and repeat.  

Right, and conversely, I think that a bomb of a Marvel movie on the character portrayed can kill the momentum of the comic cold. I mean, look at the early 2000s movies on the FF. They didn't exactly drive up FF prices above anything else. Today I think the movies have a lot to do with a comic's potential value. It wasn't that way 25 years ago. If Feige screws with the original Galactus/SS storyline like he's done with so many other Marvel characters, and he gets a critical reception from it, the price of 48-50 will definitely fall and the bubble will bust. The opposite is true, of course.

On 4/25/2019 at 11:56 PM, Moetown said:

Here a few books from an OO collection I just picked up:

I'm speechless.

Btw, what's an "OO" collection?

15 hours ago, Darkowl said:

The way GSXM1 has risen in value is crazy. Sure, it's been undervalued for a long time, but that's not really the reason why it exploded. It's the Disney/Fox deal, and a reason like that seems unsustainable and unattractive to me. I think we're going to see a decline within the next 6 months, and I'll be dumping my copy as soon as those green arrows on the census turn red. As for now, I'm enjoying watching the equity grow in my 9.0.

LOL - I was saying that a year or two ago about Hulk 181 when I could get a mid-grade copy for $1,200. I couldn't get the same grade now for under $2k. There's no good reason that GS X-Men #1 should "burst." If anything, the expectation that Disney will eventually produce a new X-Men movie will keep this comic red hot until then, at least. And when the film does come out, it's just going to create that many more fans of the characters who wouldn't have know about them otherwise, which will create more demand for their first appearance.

36 minutes ago, Finhead said:

What? Where are they selling for that? A 6.0 (not so low a grade) sold for $970 3 days ago.

There's always an aberration. The lowest graded copy on eBay right now is a 3.5 for $1,260, and the price/grade curve seems to go proportionally up from there. 6.0s are not selling generally for under a thousand like that one - far from it. All the ones I'm seeing are close to $2k, if not over it. Whoever got that one for $970 got an extraordinary deal.

Oh well. I don't know if this is going to hurt the odds of this book continuing to rise in price as a collectible.

https://cosmicbook.news/x-men-mcu-years-away-feige

On 3/25/2019 at 7:39 PM, ADAMANTIUM said:

Personal story I don't know how it will be recieved.. ... I think that I've only paid over $500 twice in my life for a comic slabbed or raw.....

Once on a 7.5 IH #181

And the 2nd I was torn between a similar grade ASM #129, a 9.2 IH #180 in 9.0/9.2, or GSXM #1.....at the time these were all similarly priced...

I ended up with only a 7.0 GSXM #1 but later added a 8.5 IH #180....

Hope that I'm not counting my chickens before they hatch....

My 4.5 GSXM #1 cost me $750 three months ago from an auction bid on eBay, and it was significantly lower than the comparible "buy it now" prices. About a year ago I bought a 5.5 and it only cost me $550. this issue is going up like a rocket, and with no specific mention of a Disney movie in the works. Makes me wonder what's gonna happen when Disney does publicly state that they're working on an X-Men movie.

On 3/11/2019 at 3:18 PM, ft88 said:

I gotta believe X-men 1 is due for a rotation up.  GS X-men 1 is the new Hulk 181 and X-men 1 is the new FF1.  

I hope you're right. I just picked up a GS X-Men #1 a few months ago. Surely Marvel Studios will want to do something new with the new X-Men - especially with Colossus after his new huge CGI look from the Deadpool movie.