RockMyAmadeus

Yes, but it gives a ballpark idea of the max number of copies that will be available. No, it doesn't, in any meaningful way. If a distribution ratio is 1:100, they could print 500 of them, and 250,000 of the "regular" version. The distribution ratio has absolutely nothing to do with the print runs of either.

Why are people still trying to make 1:X ratios fit for print runs? Those ratios are distribution ratios, not printing ratios.

You know why that's the case. CGC overprotects the 9.9 grade. It makes absolutely zero statistical sense that there are 673 9.8s, and not a single 9.9. That defies statistics...unless there's a conscious effort to overprotect the 9.9 grade, which is what CGC has always done. Unfortunate, but reality.

With the current market madness, many sellers are determined to get "the best price" they can for their stuff...and, in most cases, they've been able to do it. It's not until there's a flight from the market of large numbers of buyers, as happened in 1996-1999, that those selling will get desperate and stop sitting on what they have waiting around for a better offer. I haven't been able to buy much at what I consider reasonable prices for a long time (5 years+), and, frankly, I haven't been able to justify what I want to pay, either. "If there's someone willing to pay more than me," the comment goes, "by all means, sell it to them." Unfortunately for me as a buyer, in the last decade or so, there have been plenty of others willing to pay more than me. Will that change? Probably. Will it change in the next 5 years? Possible, but not likely.

Pages and pages and pages about how, where, what, why, when, and with whom. At what point do we recognize that trying to micromanage every single possible permutation of a transaction down to its quarks and gluons will never work?

Ah no, honey I'm good I could have another but I probably should'na I've got somebody at home And if I stay I might not leave alone.

There are 521 ASM #162s of all flavors on the census. The are only 461 ASM #161s. There are 86 9.8s #162s, as opposed to 69 #161s.

Hardly, Rockhead is an '05 newb like you. Why JC gets to consistently and routinely ignore board rules, and the mods do little to nothing about it, I don't know. And they wonder why people have a problem. Oh well. Want cheese? Nope. Just commenting on what is.

I'm RICH!!

Hardly, Rockhead is an '05 newb like you. Why JC gets to consistently and routinely ignore board rules, and the mods do little to nothing about it, I don't know. And they wonder why people have a problem. Oh well.

In a single sentence, RMA again does his best to alienate the entire board. Not in the slightest. That comment doesn't apply to the entire board, only the sycophants who thought your "burn" was a "burn." Nice try, though. Besides, you were supposed to be ignoring me...your words, not mine.

That's called a MIRROR, not Death. Damn, RMA got Burns have to have some resemblance to the truth to be effective, or they're just dumb comments that only sycophants think are funny.

That's called a MIRROR, not Death. You're one in a billion, Vinny. And everyone is grateful for that.

Captain Marvel 26 - that is a 1973 comic and War is Hell is a 1974. Even easier, CM 26 is 20-cent and WiH 9 is 25-cents. In my mind, these are not even the same character. Mistress Death is an aspect of death that clearly is feminine. The other character is not. That' just how it showed itself to Thanos. I think this makes sense. Death can appear to everyone differently. True. Death appears to me as a bread-stick armed CGC board member.

How that guy is still selling is beyond me.. Makes me very curious what's required to be an overstreet price guide adviser. Buying advertising in the book is the way to do it. There are "Overstreet Price Guide Advisors" who post here and have no clue what they're talking about, and when shown proof that they don't, arrogantly dismiss it and those posting it. There are also OPG advisors who are at the top of their games, and know exactly what's what (I'm looking at you, FD.) There are people who aren't OPG advisors who know just as much as the most knowledgeable advisors, and more. So...as in all things, just the label alone isn't nearly enough.

So sexy.

Sure, but this "why later versions have "$4.95, $5.95 Can" on them" argument is idiotic, as why release a comic for $4.95 USD and then a later printing for $5.95 USD, then later issue another printing with "$4.95 USD, $5.95 CAD" on the cover? It makes no sense, other than if the $5.95 on the second comic was intended to be CAD. Why do Jan-Sept 1982 cover date Marvels only have a "regular" price and UK price, but Oct and going forward have "regular", Can, and UK...with a Canadian newsstand version to boot...? Answers to questions: 1. The Canadian economy. 2. Brand new format. 3. Reprintings. That's why. This has all been gone over. The market for Canadian versions was evolving at that point. It was quite clearly unsettled. Will you ever be able to have a discussion without being demeaning?

Heritage doesn't understand Coppers and Moderns, which is why they underperform there. I was at Ed's booth on Friday, and Lon Allen, who is the consignment director for Heritage, was going through Ed's books. He doesn't know me, and I decided not to bug him, but I considered it.

I was standing in the post office, trying to mail books for a client off to Lonestar, getting ready to drive to Phoenix for the con, and my phone rings...Heritage calling me to see if I wanted to phone bid. When they called, it was at $1100 (I pushed it up to $1000 several weeks ago). I said "$1300", and it was immediately at $1500...I told the guy I was out. $3300+ is a jaw dropping price. Not $4,000....but close enough.

I hate it when people disappear. My thread was genuine, even if scorned. Whovianone hasn't posted in 5+ years. Conan_Aficianado hasn't posted in months. I may not make a show of it, but there are people here I genuinely enjoy seeing on a regular basis, even if it's just to spar.

I actually think this is the heart of Sulipa's data, and that there are several conclusions we can draw: 1. Sulipa is a dealer located in Canada, and therefore is likely to have higher numbers of Canadian price variants in stock. This may or may not give him an incentive to "pump" these variants, but he will nevertheless have a greater volume of sales data than many other dealers. 2. Having said that, Sulipa is not primarily a dealer in high grade or CGC-graded books, so the comparisons of sales of such books may not mirror his experience in the marketplace, which tends to focus on books that are a) low to mid grade and b) not always mainstream in appeal (i.e. they're "oddball" books) Basically, if you're looking for a CGC 9.8 of Tales of the Teen Titans #44, Sulipa is probably not the first place you'd go. But if you're looking for an obscure issue of Yogi Bear or Mod Wheels to fill a hole in a run, he's your man... The nature of that market (in my mind anyway) is that he specializes in books that guide for $2 or $3, and will sell them to you for $10 or $15 - i.e. 150% to 500% of guide or more. A quick browse through his website seems to bear this out. This market structure eventually brings self-reinforcing results. If you want to find Canadian price variants, because, hey, that's your thing, Sulipa is probably the one consistent place you can go to find them. And if that's your thing, you're likely to pay the premiums he's reporting... In turn, this will prompt him to buy or identify more of them, and raise his prices, even though other dealers (with only a small selection or no reputation in this field) will struggle to achieve the same premiums. It's also worth noting that Sulipa's model is not local... he's based in the Winnipeg area, which isn't exactly the centre of the comic collecting world (no offence to the 'Peg). His market is primarily mail order and online, and heavily skewed towards European collectors, and to collectors of genres that don't usually crack the "hot books" mindset of those of us who spend time on "mainstream" sites like the CGC boards. Having said all that, I love reading his thoughts on the market, because he's sometimes a kind of bellwether of future trends... I've scooped up a fair bit of weird stuff like Gold Key Scooby Doos or 75c Canadian price variants of late Whitman issues over the years because of the data he reports, and have done alright. All fair points.

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If you put it in your skull that "output" means total print run, then of course you are going to find fault. However my use of output is linked to the circulation/order numbers (I stated as much in the listing), which I have also remarked as being an approximation. Those are the only reported figures known, so I have no idea where you're coming from with me being "dishonest." If the rest is really more about your need to take sides, knock yourself out. (thumbs u No one is "taking sides", and you are trying to backpedal. Fact: your listing says the following - "The Marvel Graphic Novel first print runs averaged roughly a 5-6K output." http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-New-Mutants-1-Marvel-Graphic-Novel-4-Price-Variants-Beauties-/321760537971?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aea6c2d73 Fact: The words "print runs" mean "print runs." There is no other qualifier in your listing that says anything about your "information" being only from 1. one distributor, Capital City, 2. referencing the CapCity orders for issues later on down the series, which have nothing to do with the issue at hand (MGN #4.) Those aren't "the only figures known" for MGN #4 any more than the figures known for X-Men #15 (1991) is an approximation for the figures of X-Men #1. We don't know the figures for MGN #4. Citing the numbers for issues #15-22 or whatever later issues you choose to use has absolutely no bearing on the "circulation numbers" for #4. "Circulation numbers", from a SINGLE DISTRIBUTION SOURCE, without identifying that it is from a single distribution source, implies TOTAL circulation/order numbers, and you SAY "print runs" which means....ya know....the PRINT RUNS, not some fraction thereof. Fact: An "approximation" means that it is "close to" an actual number. Saying 5 coffee beans is "approximately" a pound of coffee beans doesn't work. But you are quick to throw around the accusation that other people "can't admit they're wrong"...? Yeah, ok.

No, they sell far more infrequently because there's little demand for them. There are currently 18 copies of Hulk #1 for sale in all flavors on eBay, and I guarantee you that Hulk #1 is far scarcer than all but the most obscure Canadian price Copper books. That's demonstrably untrue. No, that is what you red and interpreted. That is not what was said, at all, at any time, by anyone. The fact is, anyone...it doesn't matter if they are the most honest, decent, wonderful person in the world...should always be questioned when there's a conflict of interest involved. Doug specializes (among many other things) in Canadian price versions. That doesn't mean he has "a stockpile" of them, but he CERTAINLY sells them, as this proves: http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=&_ssn=dwscw&_armrs=1&_osacat=0&_ipg=25&_from=R40&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC2.A0.H0.Xcanadian+variant.TRS1&_nkw=canadian+variant&_sacat=0 Therefore, his statement that they "sell for 150% to 500% of the regular versions", especially when there doesn't seem to be much clear evidence of this, MUST be viewed with scrutiny, because it is In his own interests to claim this. This isn't some sort of personal attack against Doug. If I was selling something that I was claiming should be sold at a premium, at the very least, you should question my motives. It's only rational. Don't run to conclusions that cannot be supported by the actual conversation. Examples, please. Then providing examples should be no problem. *I* had difficulty finding higher price examples with sales data for Canadian versions. ASM #238, in CGC 9.8: ( 9.8 ) Canadian Edition - Apr-21-2015 $500 Cert# 0193275001 ( 9.8 ) Regular Edition: May-08-2015 $515 Cert# 1203678003 Apr-12-2015 $478 Cert# 0916160001 Apr-05-2015 $565 Cert# 0250770009 Mar-22-2015 $487 Cert# 0237158003 Mar-18-2015 $590 Cert# 1202792008 Feb-18-2015 $545 Cert# 1162378001 Jan-19-2015 $630 Cert# 1202792008 Jan-04-2015 $500 90 day average: - $514. No premium. (Personally, I think that one is damn cool, and wish I'd had the disposable cash to buy it.) Granted, I just used the 9.8 numbers, but it's enough to show that the "150% to 500%" simply doesn't exist, on any reasonably consistent basis. Secret Wars 8 CGC 9.8: 9.8 Canadian Edition: 2014 - (1) $285Hi 2013 - (1) $138Hi 9.8 Regular edition: 2013 average - $126 2014 average - $137 One sale of Canadian with negligible premium, and one sale with a premium of 115%, or 215% of the selling price of the regular (and I used the average price; there are examples that greatly reduce this number, from around the same timeframe.) GI Joe #21: ( 8.0 ) (1) $35 Mar-2013 ( 8.0 ) Canadian Edition (1) $30 Jul-2013 ( 7.0 ) $15 Feb-2007 ( 7.0 ) Canadian Edition $26 Aug-2008 (No other sales data exists for this book. Clearly, no premium.) Transformers #1: 9.4 Canadian Edition - Sep-17-2007 $150 9.4 Regular edition Oct-23-2007 $52 Cert# 0147775020 Oct-19-2007 $63 Cert# 0607794006 Sep-23-2007 $31 Sep-12-2007 $51 Aug-21-2007 $36 Cert# 0796763901 Aug-10-2007 $42 Aug-09-2007 $70 Cert# 0146165006 Aug-09-2007 $103 Avg price = $56 So, we see in this once instance, going back nearly 8 years, a single example where the one Canadian version offered for sale sold for a 167% premium, or 267% of the sale price. In all of these examples, there is nothing even approaching the upper limit of Sulipa's claim. "But I said RAW!" Fine, but we don't have access to confirmed sales of raw books, and the data we DO have access to...GPA...should coincide, at least a little bit, with what is being claimed about raws, too. It isn't a vacuum; what one does affects the other, because they are all comic books, after all. There is no mischaracterization going on here, except by you. Will you revise your listing, which contains inaccurate information, or won't you?

This is a good theory, but one small correction: MGN #2 had a $5.95 original cover price, the same as #1.