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    On 4/21/2022 at 8:24 AM, F For Fake said:

    Wow, that's nuts. I guess I understand the thinking behind the facsimile editions silver and bronze books, as they're not easy/cheap to get in ultra high grade, and I'd also expect the paper quality/type to be vastly different from the original. So, the price being $3.99, the different weight/gloss of the book, it should be immediately easy to tell the difference in an original and the facsimile. 

    But UF 4, that's such a new book, it's likely identical in its construction. I haven't been in the market for this book, but if I was, I likely wouldn't have known that the facsimile even existed. This book is just asking for trouble, and it's not surprising that people are already taking advantage of it.

    Which is why CGC should catch these submissions 100% of the time.  They are the experts and are providing the service of grading and authenticating, if they can't do that, the service is worthless.

    current turn around rates at CGC

    in Comics General

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    On 4/20/2022 at 1:20 PM, skybolt said:

    It could also be a case of CGC grading books more harshly these days (in certain cases) to reduce the glut of high grade copies hitting the market all at the same time. For example, if all of sudden 10 times as many copies of Batman #500 are submitted for grading, this could potentially kill the market for this issue if 10 times as many 9.8 copies hit EBay all at the same time. If that happens then less people will submit this particular issue in the future since the return value would have dropped significantly. 

    This is even more evident for books like ASM #300 and 361. I have two 9.8 copies of ASM #361, which I purchased already graded about 5 years ago. Since that time, I've owned better looking raw high grade copies, but can't get a 9.8 for the life of me.

    I think this makes a lot of sense.  And the added bonus they churn extra submission as folks chase the higher grades.

    The one thing that would benefit everyone is consistency in grading and that is the thing that seems to be lacking.

    Where in the world was the Quality Control at CGC???

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    On 4/20/2022 at 12:20 PM, Axe Elf said:

    lol  Yeah, nothing's ever a problem until it's YOUR problem...  heh

    I'm not exactly opposed to the concept of third-party grading.  If done properly, it gives the industry a standard on which values can be based (although I'm not sure the standard is as reliable as it needs to be when the same books sent on different days get--sometimes vastly--different grades).  I am kind of dismayed at the prospect of rendering a book unreadable by encapsulation, but I can kind of understand it with the really high-end books that nobody was going to handle/read anyway--they just become commodities rather than books at that point.  As I said, I've even come to consider it for some of my better-looking Warrens--but with the daily torrent of problems with the process right now, I'm in "wait and see" mode.

    I like what Axe Elf posted above.  I've been collecting for decades, I've been on the boards since '18, I want to be a customer but due to all the issues CGC has and the fact they seem to be getting worse I just can't pull the trigger on sending in any of my books.

    CGC restricted and then blocked my account on Instagram.

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    On 4/15/2022 at 11:25 AM, oakman29 said:

    Are you saying that as existing customers as people who post here vs. new customers who are on Instagram? I'm sure there are plenty of people who post here could very well be new customers.  I understand that CGC is inundated with submissions,  but this is not a new thing, not a covid  thing. This has been going on for years. They should have made adjustments a long time ago to provide better customer service,  and quality of service. There's really no excuse.

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