SBRobin

Do I need to tape off the book if I don't care where the creator signs? I'm getting Buffy #1 signed and I don't know enough about SS to know where a good place to sign is, so I figured maybe leave that to the signer?

If you plan on leaving it to your son, leave it to him unrestored and let him make the decision on whether he wants to remove the pen or not. I would be resentful if my dad left me a comic in 40 or 50 years that might be worth a ton of money, but he devalued it by restoring it so it would look better to him. 

You can submit it to CGC for a reholder, although if you have one of the Stan Lee labels with his image on it, FYI they no longer have the license to offer those. You will receive back a standard SS label in its place. 

On 2/12/2019 at 7:58 PM, Bomber-Bob said:

Then I must have gotten screwed on my restored books because they were not graded on how they looked.  Here's an example of a book I still have. Can you honestly say it looks like a 5.5 ?  If they graded it on how it 'looks' this would have been a 9.4. It doesn't work that way. 

The regular grading rules still apply. That book might be a 5.5 even if they couldn't tell it had restoration. It could have hitler mustaches drawn on everyone on the side pages that dropped it down 4 points. Do you have the grader notes?

On 2/12/2019 at 3:31 PM, sledgehammer said:

What I'm saying is they know the color touch is there, and without the color touch the grade would be 4.5.

 

This is what I was saying. The grade is a restored 6.0, meaning that the restoration has brought the grade up to what would be a Universal 6.0, but they are flagging it as restored. Without the restoration, the book would be a lower universale grade. If I have any of that incorrect please let me know. 

6.0 because of the restoration, meaning that if CGC couldn't tell the book was restored, it would be a 6.0 book. The restoration doesn't negatively affect the grade, just the label.

21 hours ago, Phill the Governor said:

Incorrect. The initial value estimate is just that, an estimate, and ultimately CGC has the discretion to change it if necessary. While they didn't value it higher, they were 100% wrong to do so. But that's not my problem.  Neither should sending a book to be re-holdered with full insurance because the book has fingerprints, scratches, and debris inside the case.

You're right. They should have invoiced you the additional $300 and then subtracted the $30 for your insurance and covered it for the full amount. Then you would be out $270 instead of $30 but at least CGC would be following their policies. 

On 2/8/2019 at 11:49 AM, Phill the Governor said:

 If the book was encapsulated correctly this new problem could have been avoided.

 

But it also could have been avoided if you had valued it correctly to begin with and paid the additional $300. Then they'd likely have offered to insure it the full 20. 

On 1/28/2019 at 7:42 PM, Rich_Henn said:

Symbiote Spider-Man #1 (Artgerm variant) s/s Artgerm - $135

No charge for writer Peter David----just LMK if you want Peter David on the book. 

 

What a beautiful cover. Artgerm + Peter David please. Is there an option to also have Greg Land sign? No worries if not. Thanks!

On 2/8/2019 at 10:23 AM, jBiggie said:

I wrote him, requesting he contact cbcs.

Know how much he disliked signing things, that seems like a real pain in the on his part to have to call CBCS to authenticate someone's books.

If you plan on keeping most of them in the family and only need to authenticate a few, then I would just put them on ebay and explain the connection. People buy fake stan lee sigs on ebay all the time. They'll certainly buy your ditko sigs without third party authentication.

11 hours ago, john fucsalot said:

I would keep the ASM #300... Its has a lot going for it.. Spider-Man & Venom are very popular characters.. key issue.. classic cover.. Todd McFarlane

Thanks. Based on the replies, I'm going to hold onto it and might sell my original issue 300 6.5 newsstand edition and see what I can get for it. I hate selling it since that's the copy I bought at the store. It's too bad it's not in better condition. 

1 minute ago, ADAMANTIUM said:

everyone would know even if it was in a green qualified label?

 

That's true. Kind of a dumb thing for me to be annoyed about because of that. I've just grown to have a negative association with green labels, as irrational as that may be in this case.  I appreciate your insight into it. 

5 hours ago, ADAMANTIUM said:

I spoke with Dean again and he said Neal Adams site has a service that sends it to CGC, long story short Dean Said once it is in my hands off a site and not the artists then the chain of custody is broken... you were right...

 

What you brought up is interesting. I like that policy because I don't necessarily trust an artist to authenticate their own sig. Can you imagine Stan Lee doing this? I know if you pay the same fee for them to authenticate as sign it doesn't seem like there is any benefit, but you could always have a case where a book has a forged (but realistic) sig, you then get it SSed by another artist, and then decide to take it back to the fake sig artist and have them authenticate it to remove the green label. 

I was trying to figure out if CGC had any type of consideration on a book where you can guarantee the signature is authentic because 100% of the books were signed. I have this brand new book just as it came from the publisher and there is zero way for me to obtain a universal label on it.

8 hours ago, Turtle said:

Believe it or not, this very thought has been brought up dozens of times on these boards over the years.  I'm very glad to hear that you won't be doing this.  It speaks to your character. 

Basically, this would be a form of deception.  CGC has stated that they are not on board with this practice and books will be graded either with a sizable grade penalty or it's possible they'd refuse to grade the book.  I wouldn't recommend attempting to get an artist to sign over an old signature in an attempt to cover it up and pass it off as Signature Series.

I don't know much about this particular Buffy variant.  You say it was limited to 100 issues and Dan signed all of them.  Does this mean the variant itself only has 100 copies and Dan signed each one?  Or does this mean that out of all the copies printed, Dan signed 100 as some form of limited edition run?  In other words, is the only difference between the regular version and the variant Dan's signature?

I didn't even think there was anything wrong with doing that. I figured it was just a way to get around a technicality in order to get a Universal label on a book that ordinarily would always be a Qualified label since it has a non-witnessed signature. The purpose of that would purely be to avoid the inherent stigma of the qualified label rather than trying any act of deception. I know if the artist signed in a different place it would still be qualified because it has a second unwitnessed signature, but I thought maybe by signing directly over the original, it would "cancel it out" and CGC wouldn't have an issue with it since you're not trying to pass off a second unauthenticated signature. I realize now I asked my original question incorrectly. I should have asked if CGC would give a Universal label on the variant rather than a qualified, since they know the sig is legit. I realize now though that this is just too rare of a circumstance for it to be practical for them to have an exception for.

Regarding this variant, yes, it was limited to 100 issues and every one was signed by Dan, except for one which was signed by Joss Whedon. I would like my copy slabbed but I just don't want a green label, even though anyone who buys it has a guarantee that the Dan signature is legit. The person who tries to sell the Dan + Joss copy though can only guarantee the Dan signature

I purchased this book off eBay as "NM." I guess that could be any condition from 9.4 - 9.8, but I was hoping it was 9.8. After receiving it, I noticed there are a couple long scratches on the back. They are in the ebay pics, but those pics weren't high resolution and I thought it was part of the art when I saw it. The main scratch runs from the middle right down to the "Y" in "Buffy" and then there's another one about 4 inches in length right above it. How much would this affect grade? It's not really worth it to me to submit if the book isn't a 9.8, but if the book is at least a 9.4 I feel like I can't request a return as the book was advertised as "NM." I hate when people request returns so I don't want to be a jerk to the seller. Thanks. 

I have a comic in 7.0 with below notes. I think when I was a kid I used to practice drawing by tracing over my comics. would a press possibly take out the indentation causes by tracing lines? I can't see the tracing lines now that the book is in the slab, but I'm assuming they are noticeable when the cover is viewed through a light. Thanks for any help. 

Grader Notes:

4 hours ago, Cliff R. said:

Yes, it does. Just another controversial gimmick to sell books.

How do you know Batman's genitalia was put in there by the artist to sell books and not just an artistic decision he made? It wasn't a DC marketing decision since they recalled it (unless you're under the impression that was their plan all along). 

I have an ASM direct 9.6. Given that this is the most graded comic in the CGC census and there are likely still 100,000+ issues out there, from a purely speculative standpoint, should I sell it on ebay for around $775, and use that money to buy SAGA 1 and Into the Spider-Verse #2 CGC 9.8? or spend another $150 and get Invincible #1 CGC 9.8? I can't imagine ASM 300 holding its value over the long term. 

22 hours ago, Cliff R. said:

I don't buy modern books, I have no interest in seeing

Batman's : Batman exposed

Jesus' Second Coming : DC comics 2nd coming

And countless others.  I wouldn't collect this trash if it were free.

 

It's the vague outline of a <edit, apparently the "p" word is filtered>. It's one panel. It's not gratuitous and not a central part of the story. Does it really bother you that much? 

19 hours ago, Artboy99 said:

 

1. Number 1! Number 1. New all new #1. Etc.

 

I don't hate the first twenty years of the modern age, but this is the main reason I hate things now. I hate the stupid renumbering of the comics. I get why they do it from a business standpoint, but it is so confusing to me as a collector when Spider man jumps to a numbering system every year. 

On 12/21/2018 at 8:00 PM, EC Phanatic said:

How about you remove the money equation....what if this book has sentimental value...why is everyone so concerned about value? Why can't I choose to pay to get something restored regardless of whether it makes sense money wise? Yeah...I get it...but what if I WANT a high grade copy of this book regardless of whether I loose money or not? Why are all the comic restorers so focused on value? Why can't I just say..."hey....you want money?  Please restore this book because I use to have this book as a kid and it means something to me emotionally....."  This book also has a small split spine.....I think it would look gorgeous restored...it may not make logical sense money wise...but who cares? I am willing to pay for it.....everyone is so concerned on value and worthiness...what if I don't care? 

Then maybe you should have mentioned that in your original post? People are trying to be helpful in your absence of information.

He listed it for sale here in September and it still had the old label.

8 minutes ago, ADAMANTIUM said:

Unfortunately....I've been told by cgc that the only way to get an unwitnessed Sig for yellow label is to go to a con where the artist is attending, go to CGC at the con for a form, have the artist fill it out, and have a facilitator pick up the book and the form.... then it will be considered "witnessed"

To answer your question, no sending it to CGC won't get anything but a green qualified label.... unless you follow the steps for the form at a con...but that in itself is a chore and will cost money...

Oh yeah, I don't know what I'm thinking. It wouldn't have a yellow label at all and all issues would be graded as green. I wonder what they would grade it as if I submitted it at a con to be witnessed, and had Dan sign over his previous signature. I'm not actually going to do that, but it's an interesting thought. 

I have a Buffy #1 variant signed by Dan Panosian. The variant was limited to 100 issues and all were signed by Dan. If I submit to CGC would they still slab it as a qualified? Or is there any chance that it comes back unqualified since the nature of the variant is that it is signed. I'm assuming there is no way it could come back SS since not actually witnessed, but I really don't want that green yellow label. 

I think I mixed up your post with another one about AF15, or maybe was confused by faster's reply because I just noticed my reply makes little sense, since you're asking about it being trimmed and not whether you should have it restored. Sorry for any confusion.