Lightning55

+1 on all the misspellings throughout the boards. Very annoying, but no one apparently cares. Except you and me, @kav

I see where you are coming from. We are arguing about 2 different things. My apologies.

What is clear to me is that you have no comprehension. They provide a service, get paid immediately, like you would like to. No interest accruing. It's THEIR money at that point, for services rendered, not our money they are holding. You are blaming them for bleeding you, when in fact YOU were bleeding them earlier. You''re just blind to the facts. It's change, and you don't like it, can't even understand it. Like if you pay your electric bill, are THEY accruing interest? NO! You just paid them for the power. Take a year or two and figure it out.

Doesn't mean you HAVE to ship with PayPal. You can use any service. But if you like it, and it's up and running, that's the right thing to use.

I hear ya, but it's nothing new for eBay. It's all corporate babble now, spinning it as only eBay can. It's all about grabbing the 1% that PayPal was netting on a sale. PP charges 3%, but they don't get to keep it. They have to give the credit card company that was used most of it. They are just a pass-through, as eBay is now with their processing fee. But I'm sure it is a lot of money with the scale of it all. When they were "related" companies, it didn't matter. Now it does. This is only the beginning. There is still a wide gap between what eBay charges and what Amazon charges. That should tighten over time. Why should eBay get less, they will figure. Online sales is not the new frontier it once was. Things have changed, the pie slices are smaller and have multiplied. Everyone's waiting impatiently for the "next, new big thing".

Because a listing fee is NOT a FINAL VALUE FEE. It's a separate issue. You keep dragging listing fees into FVF's and they have nothing to do with them. There has always been a big divide between the two. This same point of argument has come up before, almost every time the FVF is discussed over the past 20 years. EBay is always careful NOT to add it to the conversation, just ignoring the listing fees, as they know it's a sore spot. But every time they change the FVF's, the listing fees are still intact. Then when questioned about it, eBay says, "We never mentioned listing fees, why would you assume they were being changed or omitted?" So every 5 years or so it's like the Groundhog Day movie. People think, by omission, that eBay will abandon the listing fees. Never happens.

Yes, "there is only 1 final value fee". They are differentiating the current 2 FVF's being melded into 1 fee. There is always a listing fee on eBay, unless you use the 50 free listings or you have a store with a budget of listings. They are saying you pay only 1 Final Value Fee instead of a Final Value Fee and a processing fee. They aren't addressing the listing fees, because thee are no changes there. Just because they didn't mention listing fees doesn't mean they went away. They will never go away. You are reading in something that is beyond the subject of the announcement. I couldn't bet my life on it, but close. There may be no way to verify what you speculate. The current eBay fee pages show a listing fee, have always shown a listing fee, and unless I see the explicit words "There will be no listing fee", I presume there is one. A moot point anyway, as whatever happens, happens. We just roll with it.

Some people like the GPS, some don't. Nice that there is a choice. The main advantage of GSP is the seller being able to ship to KY and wash your hands of it. A lot of buyers internationally don't like it because the fees are included right away, done deal. Without the GSP, they get a delivery and sometimes there is no fee, or a lower than expected fee. So at least there's a CHANCE that they may get some customs or tax relief, hit or miss. For the seller who does their own direct international shipping, there are risks. I used to sell 30% international, no GSP. Then it started to get a bit sticky a few years ago, some customs issues, some handling issues, some buyer issues. I didn't lose anything at all on those, all resolved well, but it was like a warning shot, so I got out. I was lucky, and only lost money at the very beginning by not knowing where NOT to ship (Brazil comes to mind). I only ship to Canada now, besides the U.S., and I'm sure it has cost me some sales. But I do sleep a bit better, don't really need the hassles. Selling enough here, so not a problem.

This has nothing to do with listing fees or store fees. It's speaking specifically to Final Value Fees. The listing fees have not changed.

You can't dismiss it, since it does happen to some people. If you sell electronics, you are more susceptible. A lot depends on the demographic of your typical customer. There are people, such as yourself, who haven't had the "pleasure" of a fraudulent return. I have had a couple only out of maybe 50,000, so can't complain too much. But I sure didn't like it when it happened, more than aggravating. Because of what??? PayPal is still ok for the buyer to use, so nothing different regarding sales. It looks pretty much the same to the buyer. There was a time, recently, that PayPal was not an approved method, but that has changed. I can think of zero reasons that MP would be a hindrance from a sales standpoint. Maybe the opposite, as other forms of payment are welcome also. Then I guess it has been a "big deal" in YOUR favor all these years, when eBay got paid well AFTER its services were provided. YOU were accruing the interest, not having to pay when services were rendered. That seemed ok to you. Now they are getting paid AS they provide a service, still not AHEAD of providing it. That's appropriate. Where is this interest they are now accruing? Or are they still ripping you off with a pay-as-you-go format?

My understanding is that the case was designed that way. It is welded at the corners, but not necessarily on the sides. You can usually get the sides apart with any type of wedge-shaped item, like a screwdriver flat tip, etc., sometimes even just pulling on it by hand. The case is just for general protection and display. the book is sealed in the insert. There is nothing wrong with this CGC case. It is tamper-evident (welded corners), not tamper-proof. You have to educate the buyer. And even with that, if they don't buy into that concept, you might have to take it back. But that's kind of a rare situation.

If a buyer uses PayPal, they are paying EBAY, not you. It goes into EBAY's PayPal account. Then the money is shuffled into your account, without any PP fee. Will eBay be paying PP a fee? Maybe. But eBay is charging you, so it might be a wash for them.

Pretty sure that's how it works. They already have the money at the time of sale, so why give it to you so that you can give it back later? Not sure it makes much difference. They get paid eventually either way. Technically, we have been holding eBay's fees from THEM all along, since we are billed in arrears. Just won't be in arrears any longer, just in the rear.

I don't have experience with it yet, but I have heard that once you get rolling along, the transfers are daily, with the occasional exceptions of 2 day, and the rare exception of a few days. If you read the email above, eBay is stating " Payouts consistently available within two business days of an order confirmation, and deposited to your bank account weekly or daily as soon as funds are available." I see 2 days, weekly, and daily in the same sentence. That sure pinned it down.

Yeah, it's a no-win situation. Actually, we have already been paying a fee on sales tax collected. PayPal charges us on it with each transaction, but at admittedly the 3% PP charges will be better than whatever eBay charges. Very glad someone besides me is handling the sales tax thing in general. What a nightmare that would be. If I have to throw a few dollars at it to make it go away, you won't have to twist my arm. EBay is being cautious about its approach to this new fee structure, mentioning it's supposed to be less than we pay now. I think they are going to lump all the funds into 1 amount, and charge a slightly smaller fee than they currently do. Very slightly less. And that's kind of ok. EBay hasn't raised fees for quite a while, which is not like them. They certainly have had plenty of opportunities, if they even needed an excuse. I'd rather pay eBay's 9-14% (depending on category, if you have a store, etc.) than Amazon's 15-25%. I think eBay sees that they have room to go up, since Amazon charges so much and people don't seem to care. Maybe Amazon delivers more value, and can move mass market merch faster. I know I have zero luck with Amazon.

I copied the text from the email: Managed payments is the new way to sell and get paid on eBay, providing sellers one place to sell and get paid, and buyers more ways to pay. eBay will manage payments for most sellers in 2020, and your account, magiclamp1, will be activated for managed payments starting late July. To ensure you are ready in advance of the change and that there are no interruptions to your business, you will need to register by July 15, 2020. Please click here to register for managed payments by July 15, 2020. Here’s what you need to know about managed payments: • More ways for buyers to pay: Buyers can pay with credit, debit and gift cards, PayPal, PayPal Credit, Apple Pay or Google Pay. • One place to sell and get paid: You can access everything you need to sell and get paid, all on eBay, including a single source for fees, customized reports, refunds, simplified protections, tax documentation, and dedicated support. • Streamlined operations: ○ Easily ship to international buyers with our Global Shipping Program (GSP). ○ Integrations with top bookkeeping solutions such as GoDaddy, Xero, Quickbooks, and other platforms. ○ Payouts consistently available within two business days of an order confirmation, and deposited to your bank account weekly or daily as soon as funds are available. • Simplified fees: ○ Once activated for managed payments starting late July, you will pay only one final value fee1, consisting of a category-based percentage of the total amount of the sale, plus a $0.30 fixed fee per order, with no third-party payments processing fees (such as to PayPal). ○ Your final value fees will be automatically deducted from your sales proceeds, and the rest paid out to your bank account. ○ Most sellers can expect to see overall savings2. For full fee details, click here. • Registration is easy. You can register in a few simple steps, including verifying your business information and providing a bank account. You are required to register for managed payments by July 15, 2020. To ensure that your sales continue uninterrupted, and no restrictions are applied to your account, please be sure to register before your account is activated starting late July. Nothing will change on your account or how you manage your business on eBay until your account is activated for managed payments starting late July 2020. We will ensure you have access to all the detailed information you may need to be prepared before activation and you will be notified of your activation date well in advance. Please click here to register for managed payments by July 15, 2020. For more information and frequently asked questions and answers on managed payments, please visit the eBay Seller Center. We’ll keep adding information, so remember to bookmark this page. You can find details about the registration process in the Help Hub here. If you still have questions, you can request a call from one of our Payments team members there. 1Other fees, such as listing fees, international fee, and optional upgrades, may apply. 2Savings based on annual total sales volumes, and comparisons of (a) prior eBay final value fees plus typical 3rd party payment provider fees, with (b) new eBay final value fees (with no 3rd party processing fees). As outlined in our User Agreement, eBay will periodically send you information about site changes & enhancements. Visit our Privacy Policy and User Agreement if you have any questions. eBay will not request personal data (password, credit card/bank numbers) in an email. Copyright © 2020 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners. eBay and the eBay logo are trademarks of eBay Inc. eBay is located at 2145 Hamilton Avenue, San Jose, CA 95125.

Waiting patiently for SOME kind of announcement???? If movie spoilers were like this, no movies would get spoiled.

I got the email of doom yesterday. Figure I'll change over 7/1, so if there are any speed bumps I have a couple of weeks to sort them out. I have heard plenty of anecdotal evidence from people who have switched - kind of singing the same tune - hated to switch, found it wasn't terrible, now business as usual.

@masterlogan2000 It is true that eBay's prices for the specific services you mention are slightly lower than Pirate Ship. I ship mostly by media, about 95%. Prices are the same, so not a factor. On a typical day, maybe one of my purchases would be cheaper on eBay, but not worth shifting back to do 1. Also, I have no love for eBay, and will take money away from their greedy clutches every chance I get. I will even pay slightly more elsewhere (like your examples of an extra quarter here and there), just to deprive them of any of my money that would normally drift their way. To be free of their constant changes, probably pay double the difference. I send some expensive stuff, so I make it up with Pirate Ship's much lower insurance. MORE than makes up the difference, so it's cheaper overall for my purposes. There is no one-size-fits-all system, so it's good that there are choices. In any given week, I use Pirate Ship, PayPal, AND eBay. Pirate Ship has become my main interface, but sometimes it doesn't matter.

I don't know the answer to your question, just wanted to point out that you mention 129 where you might mean 121?

Yes, PayPal Ship Now can be used, if the site itself is ok and working. There are some disadvantages that it has from Pirate Ship. It won't auto-fill the address, as you mentioned. If not a sale routed through from a marketplace, Pirate Ship won't either. But as soon as you enter the name, choices show up in the address bar, like in a GPS. So usually one is the correct one, and you select it. The rest of the info goes right in, pretty fast, less typing. PayPal does not support Regional packaging, if you use that. PayPal only offers USPS insurance, and at counter rates. Pirate Ship has insurance available at 80 cents per $100. Not many people use insurance anymore, but if it's a $400 item, I'm using it. Got a damaged shipment in the other day, $1000 total value, no insurance. The seller offered $200 to compensate, and I accepted that because it was the right number for the damage. Insurance for the whole package through Pirate Ship would have been only $8.

Glad it's helping you. I like it because they don't mess with it too much. EBay and PayPal like to 'change things up" a lot, which means a new learning curve each time. Keeping it simple means ease of use, fewer clicks, and not having to hunt around for new locations of functions all the time.

The seller is trying to deceive the buyers by manipulating photos, lighting, backgrounds, etc., not honestly portraying his item for sale, hiding defects, dodging them, obscuring them. Then adds lies about the provenance of the item (original owner, bought off the rack, yada yada yada). It's the type of thing that generated all the consumer laws we have today, vendors misrepresenting their products. It's the type of thing that is a cancer in the industry, and should not be tolerated. And eBay is the getaway driver. @theCapraAegagrus, you are backing the wrong horse in this race.

The Crazy Cracker is certainly entitled to his opinion of grade. But when you move it up several steps consistently on professionally graded specimens, and the visuals indicate it can't possibly be correct (despite camera trickery), it should produce a vote of no confidence. The amazing thing is that people are lining up to pay disproportionately high dollars for his comics "of dubious grade".

Might be the same people as the eBay seller. If someone already pointed that out, sorry, I'm a bit behind on this. The spelling and grammar look familiar: 💎A Bit About Our Staff💎 Located in the mountains in the beautiful Northwest, our family owned and ran business started over a decade ago with my very knowledgable husband, Joshua. His love for comics started as a young boy who watched his own father collect as well. As an adult his knowledge grew stronger and he seen the perfect opportunity to make money doing what he truly loves. Thus Diamond Comicz was born.