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Posts posted by WPPJames
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Looking closer, I think I undergraded. Leaning more towards a 4.5/5.0 now.
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My guess, without seeing interior pages, is a 3.5/4.0
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So just curious. Maybe this already exists here. But it would be very interesting to have a forum area for people to post a PGM just prior to sending in a book for slabbing. Then post the CGC result so we can all see how our grading "skills" compare. Perhaps modify the thread subject with a "Results In!" and have it move back up to the top of the forum. Otherwise it will be buried so deep by the time the results come back that no one will ever see it. Just a thought.
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I see it lower than everyone else. More of a 4.0 to me. And I agree it would be a good candidate for a clean & press.
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14 minutes ago, comicginger1789 said:
2.5 from me mainly because of the writing where it is.
2.5 would be my guess as well. Lower if it has a cover tear / spine split. I can't tell from the photos.
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9 minutes ago, davet75 said:
example from a recent sales thread
The Witchcraft #5 one? What an awesome book, especially the cover. Definitely "presents" much better than a 1.5. I'm jealous.
I love the pre-code horror books with the girl in peril covers.
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59 minutes ago, davet75 said:
A NM looking book with the cover neatly detached at both staples will grade no higher than a 3.0
I agree that's what it would grade as. But that's kind of my issue with the grading scale. I'd think you'd factor in scarcity. Take a 1965 book that looks like a NM except for the detached staples. How many books that old would otherwise present as NM? Seems like that would be rare. But the cover is detached so now it gets graded down like all the common worn out copies. Just doesn't make sense to me. But structural integrity and all that I guess?
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4 minutes ago, davet75 said:
There's been a lot of discussion on this board regarding technical Overstreet grading standards vs CGC standards
It might be a naive opinion, but I'd think that with the heavy emphasis on slabbed books in the last, what 5-10 years?, that the cover appearance would be of greater importance than years past. All you can visually inspect in a slabbed book is the front and back cover.
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2 minutes ago, davet75 said:
The major defect is actually the full book-length vertical color-breaking creases on the right edge of the cover. That will keep the book out of any Fine category. The chip is the lesser defect and could be found in up to Fine grades.
Thanks for the feedback. I guess I'm guilty of sometimes putting too much weight (positively or negatively) on what I personally see as a major/minor defect and not going straight by "the book". Not sure who decided what is considered a major vs minor flaw? But it is what it is. For example, if I didn't know otherwise, I'd put much less of a negative for a centerfold detached at one staple than defects on the front cover.
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17 minutes ago, flashlites said:
3.5-4.0 is my best guess on this one
Thanks. Not really sure how I estimated a 6.0 to begin with. Just modified my Ebay listing as I had it graded way to high.
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CGC 9.0 sold in June on Ebay for less than $80. So 9.6 be happy - 9.4 be OK with it - less than that be bummed.
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Agree that if it gets a 9.6 it might eventually be worth $250. Might have to wait a while for it, but... And if it was me and I thought I could get a 9.6+ I'd totally go for the slab. Just saw the $1550 you mentioned earlier and it kind of knocked me off guard.
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*And* that's on a consignment item. Which are often grossly overpriced.
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2 hours ago, gadzukes said:
the last one sold for $1500
Not sure where you got that. a 9.6 is available on MCS for $379. And usually you can get a better deal than MCS on Ebay if you wait around for it.
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My guess is closer to a 9.4. But at that high a grade interior pages are very important. And we don't see any of those. And my disclaimer: sometimes I tend to under grade.
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Just now, WPPJames said:
Wow. Apparently the word "insufficiently_thoughtful_person" gets automatically "corrected" to insufficiently_thoughtful_person. I can't even call myself an insufficiently_thoughtful_person I guess. That's OK. I have a wife for that.
This is getting funnier. "insufficiently_thoughtful_person" was supposed to say i*d*i*o*t. I'm so confused.
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1 minute ago, WPPJames said:
insufficiently_thoughtful_person
Wow. Apparently the word "insufficiently_thoughtful_person" gets automatically "corrected" to insufficiently_thoughtful_person. I can't even call myself an insufficiently_thoughtful_person I guess. That's OK. I have a wife for that.
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14 minutes ago, ROBTOTHEC said:
You should have immediately asked to return it. That is perfectly within your rights and his grading on it was atrocious. It's probably a 3.0/3.5.
Lots of differing opinions on this. Perhaps depending on whether you are more of a buyer or a seller? And the seller did offer to accept the return, but not cover the shipping cost. So I could have returned it. And probably a lot of people will say I'm an insufficiently_thoughtful_person for not doing so. But as I stated before, I'd prefer to offer it back up via auction and hope someone feels like they received a good deal than get $6 back after return shipping. I mean, regardless of whether I got a fair price at the actual grade, that's not the grade I wanted. But, as they say, opinions are like a**holes. Everybody has one.
That said, I did still feel guilty about the negative feedback. So I sent this to the seller earlier this evening:
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I personally still feel your listing was misleading. At best. But I posted this question on a comic forum and opinions were split. Much like my comic book spine. Anyway, I've never left negative feedback before and I don't want to be the one responsible for ruining your 100% positive feedback."When a buyer posts negative Feedback accidentally, you can ask them to change it using the Request Feedback Revision page. If there is no response from the buyer, you can go to the Report Feedback page and explain the situation directly to eBay so they can handle the negative Feedback removal."
If you'd like to do the above I'll remove the negative feedback.
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PGM X-men #10
in Hey buddy, can you spare a grade?
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That's a nice book. 7.0 to 8.0? But I'm admittedly a very novice grader. My questions would be: 1) How much of a factor the $0.10 stamp on cover? Seems like the higher grade book the more this is a negative. And this otherwise looks very high grade. 2) Staples (top one mainly) seems to be a bit off center. Not on spine. Does that matter at all? Considered a "defect" or just normal printing variation?
I currently have this exact same book out to CGC for grading/slabbing. So opinions on this are of definite interest to me as well. I wish I had photos available I could post as comparison between our two books.