Brian Peck

For the question what is a splash, this page from Brave and The Bold #186 page 9 I just won in ComicLink could be called a splash or panel page. Technically its five panels but the its one background across all five panels. Could have been done with just one panel but Aparo gave it an extra dimension breaking it up into panels.

On 6/6/2024 at 11:54 AM, Andahaion said:

This observation is only cursory and may not mean anything, but I'm always intrigued by the number of trackers that comics and comic art lots receive.  This is really only in comparison to other things that I collect and may track at HA; things I pay attention to.  For instance, there's a signed first edition of The Hobbit with 126 trackers in the English and American Literature auction.  In the Japanese woodblock print auction, those lots are topping out at about 10 each.  And in this comic/OA auction, the highest tracked item is something I've no idea about; a Lee Elias Black Cat Comics #50 cover art with 475 trackers.  

Again, not sure that means anything, but when the question is posed about OA costing too much I tend to look at things like the above and can't deny that there is (or appears) to be a lot of demand and interest in this stuff and I would guess there's an impact on price.  But I'm just an internet post.

Big difference between tracking and bidding. I like the tracking feature in HA and I use it alot. Much of the art I am not going to bid on in the auction.

I track a piece for a number of reasons, either I have a similar page and curious what the current market is but auctions are not always the best metrics. Other times I track because I like the page but not enough to add to my collection. Some pieces I am on the fence and may bid or may not. If the art goes low I might bid. Then there are the few I plan of definitely bidding.

On 6/6/2024 at 10:18 AM, Bronty said:

Its kind of crazy that this would be literally the biggest transaction ever in this space and it didn't even create a ripple (at least that I could see).

What happens in the Cobal stays in the Cobal.

It's all a matter of perspective.

Yes there is alot of crazy priced OA out there today but you are just looking at the stuff everyone talks about. I have been collecting for almost 40 years seen the prices increase and yes I have cut back in my purchasing but alot has to do with me being more selecting of what I want.

Just speaking about published art not con drawings, commissions or pinups. Last year I bought 19 published pages under $1K including art by Giordano, Layton, Barrows, Guice two of which were covers, and I bought 3 pieces between $1K and $1500 Heck, Willingham and Gibbons.

This year I have only bought a dozen published art, due to a personal event. Of the 12, three were under $1K (including Swan and Guice), and 4 published art between $1K and $1500 by artists like Nrbres, Thorne, Dillin and Gindberg.

I did buy some higher end pieces in the last two years as well but to say everything is priced out of your budget is not true. Unless you only collect Kirby, Byrne, Miller, Etc. Over the last few years I have gotten alot of art under $1000 and I love it. I am a BIG Eduardo Barreto fan and I feel he is a great artist who has been over looked by collectors and I can find alot of his art for very reasonable prices.

So for those that say the whole market is over priced I say bull mess. Yes some artists work is priced out for many collectors but there is still alot of great art out there at reasonable prices. Again its all your perspective, $100 pages can be found but reality its good pages these days art more at $500. Just be patient and look for the art you like and much of it is not outregiuously priced.

On 5/31/2024 at 6:00 PM, The Voord said:

I'd meant this as a kind of joke example, Brian, and I'm surprised you took me seriously.  Too many collectors seem hung up on the idea of what constitutes a 'slash page', so I thought I'd post something with water effects (splashes, geddit?).  I think most people here got the joke. 

Personally, I'd never quite got where the term 'Splash page' came from.  For me, it's always been title page (usually a page 1), with (some) interior pages having large panels . . . or single panel pages.  

I think this is more of a dealer mentality . . . trying to hype their inventory with interior pages that have larger panels than the norm.

Since Image was founded it seems like many artists put in splash pages in an issue not for the story but because a splash will sell for more.

On 5/28/2024 at 10:24 AM, The Voord said:

THIS is a splash page!

 

This is a panel page with a large panel. If it has more than one panel to the page it's a panel page. 

If the whole page is one image from side to sideband top to bottom with images inside the single image,I still considerate splash page.

Too many people selling comic art will call something a splash page, eve if its composed of an number of panel images just to jackup the price.

I posted 24 pieces today and only two were over $1K.

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Just looked at the artists list. Most I have no idea who they are. Ones I know, I have meet at cons and not interested flying across the ocean to see them. 

Just 3 artists interest me all live in Europe and I may never seen them but not worth $2500 minimum to attend.

On 5/3/2024 at 4:09 PM, Dr. Balls said:

I think there's a fine line between misrepresenting and not doing a little research. As a collector, part of the fun and interest for me is learning about the page and the artists involved. I would imagine a dealer who is posting lots of artwork that might be his to sell, on consignment, etc may not give it that level of attention.

I spent $12 to buy a book for a page of art I bought for $50 to make sure I had the correctly notated page and artist information - but that's just me, and that additional cost is part of my desire to have an accurately notated piece of art - I would imagine that there's a different threshold to how much time and additional money dealers want to put into a piece of artwork they have only to sell, not enjoy.

You sell something for $6500 do your research.

On 5/3/2024 at 3:05 PM, RBerman said:

Could be an honest mistake if Cockrum did ink the other three issues of this mini. Cockrum is listed as the inker here: https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Nightcrawler_Vol_1_4. But the title page does list Rubinstein as "finisher." I reached out to Joe and will post update if he responds.

 

I own a page from issue #4 and I know it's inked by Joe Rubinstein. Many who collect the series know this, Dave was running later on the issue and Joe helped out. I would not put any weight behind fandom's accuracy.

What does everyone think about sellers not mentioning the inker when selling artwork?

This question came up due to a page posted on a dealers site of Nightcrawler #4 and Dave Cockrum is listed as the penciler and inker which is blatantly untrue.

Joe Rubinstein was the inker, in fact he is credited as embellisher which means Dave gave him less to work with than usual. Don't get me wrong I love Joe Rubinstein's inks and he was a good match for Dave. But the dealer listed the page as $6500 (it's on hold already). That is a very healthy price for a page from the series but that would be if its from the first three issues that Dave Cockrum penciled and inked. This page is being promoted as penciled and inked by Dave when it is NOT.

When it comes to prices like this, the seller should be up front about what the page really is. I hope the buyer realizes that the art was sold under false pretences and its not all by Dave.

Here're some prelims for Warren Publication

Vampirella #2 cover prelim
By Bill Hughes

Vampirella #15 cover pencil prelim
By Manuel Sanjulian 
 

Vampirella #72 cover prelim
By Enric Torres
 

Vampirella #95 Cover prelim
By Ken Kelly
 

Eerie #45 cover prelim
By Luis  Dominguez
 

Nova #12 cover prelim by John Buscema

Spirit 50th prelim by Will Eisner

Aliens Omnibus #1 cover prelim by John Bolton

X-Men #30 trading cards prelim by Bob Larkin

On 4/7/2024 at 7:39 AM, J.Sid said:

Have to disagree with this. Take a step back and look again. Miller. Elektra. Vintage. An absolutely fantastic image. If drawn on one board it would have gone for 2x the result. Probably much more.

Actually if this were drawn on one board the consignor probably would not have selected it to consign. It would take a 7-figure offer to pry it away.

Just my

I don't think that would have made a difference as the consigner has a large selection of Miller DD art and this was only put up for auction to pay for something he likes much better.

On 4/5/2024 at 7:41 PM, gumbydarnit said:

What an impressive batch of X-Men art by Kirby, Cockrum, Byrne, BWS and Jim Lee!

 

The other cockrum x-men gsx was much more impressive

On 4/5/2024 at 11:47 AM, Matches_Malone said:

Very strong price for the Mark Schultz Xenozoic Tales Hannah Dundee T-Shirt Illustration $33,6k

It went for 50% more than the Xenozoic Tales #5 Cover which was published the same year.

On 4/5/2024 at 11:07 AM, jjonahjameson11 said:

Thus far,

sal Buscema Cap 137 cover sold for the same price back in 2019

 

Byrne Xmen page went at $30K discount

 

Frenz ASM 252 page … a steal at $174K

 

Hannigan Spec Spidey 64 complete interiors average $7.4K per page seems strong 

 

Heck ToS 39 page - congrats to the seller!

Romita Jr DD 254 cover seemed light by 25%
 

Eisner stuff - good to see prices reflect the importance of his work

X-Men #121 Bynre page did not go for a discount but set a record for a page from the issue.

The pages you must be referring to are the ones from the Phoenix Saga (129-137) that you comparing to.

$81K is a very healthy number for the Alpha Flight issue, pages from that have gone for much less. Comparing a Phoenix Saga Byrne X-Men page and an Alpha Flight Byrne X-Men page is apples and oranges. There was no discount here. I think it got a record for a page from that issue. It went for $30K more than another page back in Sept of last year.

There was only one other Byrne X-Men panel page (outside of Phoenix Saga) that went for more than the X-Men #121 in ha and that was from issue #113 and it had the whole team.

On 3/20/2024 at 10:18 AM, grapeape said:

Human Torch concept drawing by an absolute golden age legend. That's a nice bit of coin for this illustration. Earliest drawing.

 

I saw it in person at OAX, Cominc Connect had it framed in their booth. I really liked it but knew it would go high.

Alan Davis posted that Paul Neary has died after a long illness.

I loved his inking over Alan's work especially Excalibur, he will be missed. Below is a copy of what Alan posted:

On 2/8/2024 at 2:05 PM, PhilipB2k17 said:

I get that. But I’d prefer if it were limited to pieces that were acquired during the year. Makes it more interesting. 

Too many entries to police, we had just under 1700 entries not everyone submitted 5 entries each so there was about 350 who participated. Most people post their art during the year but a small number don't and then rush to post before the end of the year. Not sure what evidence you have that people post art they didn't get in 2023. Many don't participate in Best of and rarely post art but I know a number of the that do get a good many of pieces during 2023 and many high end but they don't usually;;y publicize the fact. That may be why a number of you think people post art they got out side of 2023. For me I have been a part of Best of for longer than CAF is been around. I just want people to post the art so I can see what I missed what was posted the previous 12 months. If a few get posted that they own and they didn't get in 2023 I don't mind much. They are sharing and that is one of the reasons for the Best of when it started some 25 years ago.

On 2/8/2024 at 2:32 AM, PhilipB2k17 said:

I am curious about the criteria for these things. Do you have to add the art to CAF during the year? Or acquire the art AND add it to CAF.  Because it seems like a lot of heavy hitters are adding pieces they’ve had in their collections for a while. Maybe I’m wrong, of course. 

Its done on the honor system. Pieces that are posted during 2023. The Best of is a way to share pieces acquired during the year. So many pieces are posted in the CAF during the year its easy to miss them. Best of is a way to see the ones you missed poster in the year.