kypackman

Anyone sent in some 61-62 Fleer Basketball that they want to share pics?

On 3/26/2021 at 8:54 AM, CardGrader said:

CSG will be able to encapsulate cards such as this one as Authentic Altered in the near future. Watch for an announcement on the website and through social media.

Thanks for replying to the original post.  Is there any plan to provide grader notes as CGC does?   I think it would be especially helpful at least for the high $ cards sent in through the walkthrough service.  When you send in a $30-50K card and it comes back ungraded and you get no explanation on why the grader thought it was trimmed/altered it is disappointing to say the least.   Some type of note such as "Card trimmed on left side" or "color touch top left corner"  would be helpful.   Thanks.

19 hours ago, CardHero said:

That's kind of bad they wouldn't even elaborate on it. Did you store the card in any way that may have flattened or warped the card, like a screw down holder that didn't have a recessed area for the card?  That can sometimes cause an EV Altered I believe.  How was it kept?

That is interesting, I have never heard that.   I did have it in a soft sleeve inside a screw down holder for many years.   I guess I am just going to send it to another grading service.  It certainly has me second guessing sending my other 60's - 80's cards to CSG.  

On 3/25/2021 at 4:10 PM, Brent Dorner said:

I sent in a bunch of 1976 football, I am seeing videos on YT of grade reveals and a lot of people are getting card back marked trimmed or service unavailable mostly on cards 25 years or older. They claimed you had a flaw in your system that was kicking these cards out.... can you fill us in about seeing a problem with older cards being kicked back? I am a bit worried that many of my cards will not be graded. If they are not graded am I charged for them? Thank you for any info you can provide. 

I had a similar issue.   I sent in my 86-87 Fleer Jordan rookie I have had since 1987.   It was sent back as EV (altered or trimmed).   I have had this card for 33 years - it has not been trimmed. It has the exact same dimensions as every other 86-87 Fleer card.  I was charged for grading and shipping as if it was a $50K card.   No explanations on why the graders thought it was trimmed.   Unlike CGC you do not get grader notes.  Even after calling and speaking to a supervisor/manager they could not provide any information on why they felt it was trimmed.  No notes, no explanations buy thanks for the money.   For a card like that you deserve some kind of notes or explanation on why the grader thought it was trimmed.  

I'm still waiting for my Neal Adams books.  They must be doing them "first in - last out".   I sent mine in the third week of Sept.  They were there 45 days before the signing.  They are still "Scheduled for grading".  The 2 magazines are not even SFG - still just listed as "Received".    Pretty frustrating!   My Roy Thomas books may get here before my Neal Adams books.

Thanks James, that was a great post.  It turns out that my seller did finally respond to me and his thoughts were very close to yours.   He apologized and refunded my CGC fees.   I guess he took that same Business 101 class

Thanks to everyone who took the time to respond.  I didn't expect reimbursement from the seller, but I did think it would be the right thing to do.   I think if I had a customer consistently spending good money on books I would want that to continue and would make it back plus more in the long run.   He evidently does not share that same view as he has decided to ignore both of my emails.   Oh well, lesson learned.  

This is my first post on the boards.   I recently bought 2 fairly expensive books on ebay from a well known comic dealer with a good reputation.  I have bought from him before with no issues.  I would like to continue business with him if possible.   I would like to think that he did not know of the color touch and trimming that was detected by CGC.   I requested a refund and upon receipt of the books back from me, I got my money back. He now has his books back in slabs that I paid for.  I asked for reimbursement of my CGC fees.    Because of the value of the books (over $5600) I had to submit them under the Express tier which was $90 each.   Shipping and insurance to CGC and back puts me out over $250.   Since the books were not disclosed as being restored or trimmed this is money I would not have spent if I had known the books had been doctored. I have now asked twice for the reimbursement and gotten no response.   I don't think I am being unreasonable but would like to know what others who have been around longer think about this.  Thanks.