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Thanks. I was editing. Should be fixed now. BTW, that is a scuff on the SS11 on the case near the Comics Code logo.

Hello folks. A couple of CGC high-grade books. Nobody on the hall of shame list please. No returns on slabbed books. Payment via PayPal. First “take” wins it. $10 US domestic shipping; to Canada at actual cost. PM’s welcome, but a take on the thread wins out over PM negotiations. Asking $525 $450 for the Iron Man #66 CGC 9.8 OW/W. Asking $550 for the Silver Surfer #11 CGC 9.4 OW/W.

Take SW1 per PM.

Thanks. Just one more follow-up. CGC says: "Conservation repairs are performed with the intent of preserving the structural or chemical integrity of a comic book using professional techniques and materials. It excludes aesthetic repairs such as color touch and piece fill. All conserved grades must satisfy the CGC quality scale of "A" and quantity scale of "1"." Shouldn't that give comfort that quantify of the reinforcement and tear seals is NOT such that, once unconserved, the grade hit wouild be huge (that the book would fall apart)? Or are you saying that the quote only applies to each instance of tear seal and reinforcement, and you still get a conserved grade no matter how many reinforced/sealed areas there are?

Thanks guys. So in a conserved grade, sealed tears do not lower the grade noted on the label due to their being tears. Instead, sealed tears aftect the conserved grade only to the extent that they remain visible (in which case they are treated like a stray pen mark that outlines the tear)?

Okay! How about this (not exactly what I hypothesized above, but close):

So you three guys who responded most recently are basically saying that Tony S was WRONG when he wrote, "Restored or conserved, the numeric grade represents what the book would otherwise grade if not restored or conserved." So I must ask: WHO is right? Do i go with the majority?

Hey! Are you suggesting I had a brain fart? Maybe I did, but I'm a noob in this area. Plain english sometimes isn't plain enough. Thanks to you and Tony for input.

Hi. Sorry if this was addressed elsewhere, but I couldn't find it. Why does GPAnalysis data exclude sales tax paid by buyer? Obviously, the fiinal price to the buyer includes sales tax. Now that sales tax is more and more often being collected/paid by sites such as Heritage, ComicLink, eBay, etc., wouldn't prospective sellers like to know how much a buyer actually paid for similar items? Relatedly, does anyone know whether GoCollect data includes sales tax paid? I am assuming it does not, not for any good reason, but just because GPA doesn't and I expect GoCollect prefers to be consistent. Of course, there are other costs that make up a final price paid at these auctions (like shipping fees), but they are relatively insignificant relative to sales tax on big ticket items, so not a biggie that GPA does not include them.

Thank you. So, to make sure I understand, if the book looks like a 6.0 but has a conserved label grade of 4.5, then 4.5 is the presumptive pre-conservation grade or the presumptive post-removal-of-conservation grade? Is there a difference? I am grappling with what you said, the possibility that "once the reinforcement was removed you would have a book that the cover was detached - and perhaps some loose interior pages as well" -- should one expect that such a conserved 4.5 book receive a universal grade of 4.5 after the conservation is undone, i.e., the 4.5 already accounts for all of that?

Hi folks. Hope you can enlighten me. CGC explains a conserved label as follows: "This label is applied to any comic book with specific repairs done to improve the structural integrity and long-term preservation. These repairs include tear seals support, staple replacement, piece reattachment and certain kinds of cleaning." If the conservation consists of some bindery chip size pieces added to cover and interior with archival material, tear seals to cover and interior with archival material, and cover and interior reinforced with archival materal, I gather that all of that work only enhances structural integrity without (or at least not significantly) affecting the appearance of the book--in other words, the conserved grade is not an apparent grade but the universal grade the book would otherwise have obtained had the conservation not been performed, correct? Also wondering if such conservation as described above would be completely reversible without harm to the book, assuming one would ever want to undo it?

Take both per PM.

$60. You were in college(!) and didn't realize that was a good deal at the time! Joking aside, congrats on the JIM run.

Thanks for all the input. There is the 1-inch top spine split, but the spine and staple areas are othewrise in great shape with the cover firmly in place, and all corners and edges are pretty sound. Seems like less wear (like worn areas or wrinkles) than expected in light of the creases, especially in the non-crease areas. So hopefully at least a 2.5, and I gather a longshot for anything above that, but thankfully I can't complain even if a 2.0, as it looks nice overall. We'll see. Something interesting about this book, perhaps a pence variant thing, is that the above pix are not inaccurate color-wise. In hand, the colors really pop throughout, i.e., both front covers and interior pages. The colors, but especially the blacks, seem to be more intense/brighter than other JIM83s (I only found hi-res pix for 12-centers), which reminds me of the folks who believe that the pence variants were printed first before the 12-centers during that initial print run. For example, it's really cool that the front cover's "THOR!" jumps out at you, likely due to the intense blacks. I also never really noticed Thor's belt and boots on the front cover before this book, but they present boldly here, along with the logo, the black and yellow in the large text bubbles, etc. To research or not to research, that is the question. Anyway, thanks for all the comments. Stay safe folks!

me too!

Hope you all are well. The stain under the "E" is some residue (food-related liquid?) which used to have some paper from another comic stuck to it, since removed safely. Are these white pages? Those are not my fingers in the final pic, btw . Is this a worthy press/clean candidate?

Looks 8.5 like an 8.5 I have for a 1967 book. Nice book!

nice book! Maybe even a 7.5, shot at a 8.0? The spine looks that good.

JIM 84/85 per PM.

7.0 after clean/press? There is a cool full date stamp on the back. But it’s curious—4.5 years after the book came out! Curious indeed.

Nice book. Maybe 4.0 if front tear is treated the same as rear tear of same size? But at least 3.5 I would think. Also, not necessarily trimmed because there is at least some miswrap (evident from bottom edge) which could have caused the Image overall to shift upward enough to marginalize the top text.

Nice colors on the cover! As someone already mentioned, whatever the grade due to the water stain, it may fetch a premium over a non-water stained book of same grade due to the eye appeal. Thanks for sharing and GLWT.

Thanks for all the coments. You guys are awesome. Pulling out the book in better light (for the first time a few months), I thought I could provide more accurate front picture and provide a spine shot. I used old pictures originally that I now realize (upon looking at the book) are not as sharp and true to color as they could be. Sorry about that. I am wondering if these new shots affect your overall assessment. Yes, if I submit this book I will update! Anyway, here goes.

New pix helped. I am on my phone. A really nice book. Sharp corners. Clean. No creases that I can see. The indentations along spine of front cover (around the 50c and below the blue text bubble) appear to be mostly pressable, so at least 9.0-9.2. Even higher possibly if the dents are completely removed because the ink overspray is minimal and shouldn’t affect grade. I can’t see any grade-affecting flaws other than the indentations.

Yes, sharper pix needed. As is, 9.0 to 9.6. Is that a water stain along bottom front cover, between the !/foot and Wolverine's claw, and along the top front cover to the right of the yellow band? If either, then 8.0-8.5, since the water damage appears to be minimal?