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On 4/14/2024 at 3:09 PM, KryptoSpidey said:
NEXT UP...
TTA # 27 CCG 2.5 CR/OW
This is a REALLY PRETTY book for the grade...especially the front cover....CGC Scan and Picts this time....(forgot I had the CGC images for the Xmen 13)...
Last GPAs ...
1.8 $1750 Dec 2023
2.0 $1750 March
2.5 2024 ($1560,1700,2040)
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I generally avoid Brittle but I can see myself making an exception for a megakey that would otherwise be out of reach.
My All Star 3 has "Slightly Brittle" pages and that just means one isolated area of the book is flaking but the rest of the book is fine. I don't expect any further deterioration if I store it properly.
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On 9/20/2023 at 11:38 PM, Telegan said:I don't actively look for purple label books, but I've always found it humorous that a book with color touch gets a purple label thereby probably drastically reducing its value, but if you carve the color touch out such that the book looks like swiss cheese or just rip the cover off and throw it in the trash, it can get a blue label, and it becomes "ok to collect". In this regard, I'm not sure I blame the CGC, but rather the consumer for creating this monster. lol.
I've even thought about actively looking for good deals on purple label books lately.
If CGC did away with different color labels for books and simply just listed defects and any restoration work on a standardized label, I bet restored books wouldn't be hit with as drastic a value reduction.
And yes I wish everyone would stop the practice of scraping off CT. CGC should not "reward" this behavior with blue labels.
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On 9/18/2023 at 9:59 PM, N e r V said:
Great Caesar’s Ghost! My old stomping grounds the MarvelMasterworks boards. I even had a post on that thread you linked. I’ve heard arguments for both sides and still no one has produced enough evidence to sway me one way or another. I think most of these arguments should be left at “I think” instead “It is or isn’t” as a fact without a smoking gun to prove your “opinion”. The fighting is tiring. We live in an age of comic covers as art and I don’t believe a lot of prices move up or down if it’s not the cover artist you think it is. A great cover is always going to be a great cover no matter who or who didn’t draw it.
Generally if we are unsure of something, we should default to "uncredited" or "unknown." Older CGC labels of PL17 don't have the Matt Baker cover credit. I wonder when it changed and what evidence CGC saw that made them change their mind. I agree the value of PL17 isn't going to be swayed by the cover artist because it will always be a historic, infamous, and iconic book in the hobby. But attaching Matt Baker's name to a previously unknown book would certainly boost its value.
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Yeah the spine is in really rough shape. I'd grade this 1.8. As someone else pointed out, it does contain the pin-up which is often missing so still worth a couple hundred of dollars if the rest of the book is complete.
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On 8/29/2023 at 4:02 PM, M-F0uRce99 said:
A CGC 3.5 Young Romance #1 sold on ebay a couple of days ago for $1400. I know this question is subjective, but- How would you figure the approximate value a CGC graded 5.5 of the same issue. I checked GPAnalysis and it appears that a 5.5 has never come to market. Thanks in advance for your replies.
The easiest way is to calculate the price per point of the actual sale and then extrapolate for your copy. So 1400/3.5 = 400. 400 x 5.5 = $2200. You can adjust upwards or downwards then based on page quality or eye appeal, etc. Price per point works okay for the low to mid grades. Higher grade books tend to have more of a premium as they are rarer. You can also take a look at the census and see how rare a 5.5 is. If 5.5 is the highest grade for the book, you can get away with more of a premium. Hope that helps.
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On 8/28/2023 at 8:13 PM, Telegan said:
Lol. This is part of the aggravation for many people.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but during the auction, the BP is not included in the current bid price you see. After the auction, the BP is included in the "sold for" price, but the text that states a 15% BP will be added at the conclusion of the auction still remains, I guess.
So in this instance, the final bid that won the comic book was $4200 + 15% BP = $4830 total (again, assuming that $4830 really does include the BP).
Yep this is correct. The BP doesn't automatically show during the auction, you have to account for it yourself when you bid.
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On 8/28/2023 at 5:01 PM, manetteska said:
Apologies in advaance if this is common knowledge, but on this book (or any like this), is the 15% already factored in? Or is it $4830+ 15% as it still says "will be added"?
Yeah the displayed price has the 15% BP factored in already.
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Yeah I can see VG if it were a simple spine split. The damage to the interior pages knocks it down to VG- or G/VG I think. Perhaps bug chew? Still a solid copy!
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On 8/24/2023 at 1:08 PM, Jasgut said:
Sorry. 8.5 😞
Oh yeah the foreign substance hammered the grade.
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On 8/22/2023 at 2:22 PM, LadyDeath said:
Isn't it up for debate if Baker even drew this cover?
Ah yes my favorite topic! I don't think there is any possibility Baker drew this. Hair, eyes, hands, chest, and wooden pose all do not look like Baker's work. The heavy shadows and wrinkles on the shirt look like classic Al Feldstein. (Although in the The Art of Glamour there is an interview with Al Feldstein and he only recalls doing minor inks and backgrounds on Phantom Lady, not the covers) I'm not sure where the Baker attribution came from. I think there was some signed Baker interior Phantom Lady art and folks then just assumed he might've drawn the covers as well.
This classic debate pops up from time to time in the Baker thread here. (I copied over some of my comments from there).
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Offering discount codes on rare GA mega-keys. No way this was a legit sale. Seller has 0 feedback and created the account on August 9th?
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An accumulation of lots of normal, honest wear and tear... 3.5!
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On 8/20/2023 at 4:56 PM, FloridianDemon said:So this is where I disagree. This run is not as simple as hit the big keys 1st. Some of the mid run imo is the HARDEST due to the census count, alot of them share the same census count as the massive keys. if 200k flew in my pocket right now, it would make more sense to go grab 40-60 high grade 1 of 2-3 census count slabs in the mid the run then to drop it just on #4 and now i have to spend years and years waiting for one to just pop up to even buy the damn thing. I started this thread/quest on nov 8. of last year with #66 in 9.0. in that almost full year there has been no #66 in 9.0 or above since, and it costed 150. could i have passed and saved to maybe get a 9.0+ of #60 or 79? sure! but i see those books every week/slash month alot of the ones I have gotten i havent seen at all since. no regrets so far.
If 200K magically appeared in your pocket, it would be a massive mistake not to get the Showcase 4. 200K also isn't enough for a 9.0+ Showcase 4. A 9.6 sold in 2009 for 180K.
Not sure what census figures you are checking but none of the mid-run books are as rare as the early Showcases in 9.0 or above. As I mentioned earlier, Showcase 2 doesn't have anything higher than an 8.5 on the census.
Even if the mid-run Showcases are as rare as you say they are, they likely won't experience the same price growth over the next decade of your collecting journey (well unless B'wana Beast has a hit Hollywood movie), which is why all the experienced collectors in this thread are imploring you to start with the keys first. For the non-keys, it is also likely there are many raw nice copies that haven't been graded yet so the census is less representative of the entire population of the book.
I say keep doing what you're doing with the non-keys, it's fun to build momentum and check off acquisitions from the want list. But at the same time, you should have a plan for what you're gonna do with the earlier mega-keys. Procrastinating on that will make it financially out of reach in the future. You can get a low-grade but well-presenting copy of Showcase 4 for under $10,000 today. That's obviously still a ton of money but something realistic if you save up or sell off other books in your collection.
Good luck!
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On 8/18/2023 at 10:02 PM, comicnoir said:
I met Feldstein twice and we talked about Baker and how he influenced him, but nothing about PL17.
Yeah in the The Art of Glamour there is an interview with Al Feldstein and he only recalls doing minor inks and backgrounds on Phantom Lady, not the covers. So the mystery continues...
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On 8/18/2023 at 9:47 PM, comicjack said:
The hands give it away for me he was so much better than that
Hair, eyes, hands, chest, and wooden pose all do not look like Baker's work. The heavy shadows and wrinkles on the shirt look like classic Al Feldstein. I'm not sure where the Baker attribution came from. I think there was some signed Baker interior Phantom Lady art and folks then just assumed he might've drawn the covers as well?
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On 8/18/2023 at 9:27 PM, comicjack said:
One can say that about Phantom Lady 17 also they all most likely had some input on many books from what i see
Yeah I'll take it a step further with Phantom Lady 17 and confidently say Baker did not draw that cover. Does not look like anything else he has done.
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On 8/18/2023 at 8:53 PM, manetteska said:
I guess I'm a bit out of touch on the Jo-Jo #25; I thought that price was crazy until I looked up recent sales -- seems line.
Is it definitely a Baker cover?
There is some doubt about that one. In The Art of Glamour, there is a footnote that says it could be an Iger Studio artist swiping Baker's style.
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On 8/18/2023 at 12:31 PM, Average RE said:
Hi there thanks, a friend told me it would be a 0.5 because of the detached pages I would be happy with a 2.0 grade I can’t seem to find any information mentioning grading for more than 1 page detached
It would only be a 0.5 if you threw away the detached pages and the book was incomplete
This looks to be a 2.0 to me.
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On 8/17/2023 at 11:21 PM, brainbats said:They sold one last August for $720, and I thought that was high. $1500 for the Cinderella Tiny Tales book also surprised me. I have extras on both if anyone's looking.
I was the buyer last August. Sweet vindication with this recent sale!
The two look good together though right?
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