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12 minutes ago, Sauce Dog said:

wut? She didn't wait long at all, she destroyed it the second she arrived back on earth - it was literally the very first thing she did.


My main issue is WHY go back to New York for the chance at only THREE infinitie stones, when they could have just all went to Titan the moment Thanos was tied up with FIVEstones, and had Thor cut his arm off then (That entire battle almost worked if it wasn't for Starlord hesitating and snapping Thanos out of his stupor)

Come to think of it, Captain Marvel was not with the Avengers when they time jumped, was she? More important things to do than save half the population of the universe?

Good point. Tony Stark should have known how close they came to beating Thanos on Titan.

5 minutes ago, comix4fun said:

I think you missed a part...he didn't regret killing Thanos...he regretting not killing him fast enough to prevent him from snapping his fingers in the first place. 

Why did he give up? He is given a chance to fix things and he was hesitant to take it. But offering him beer motivated him? I do not see Thor, God of Thunder, ever giving up let alone having regrets.

I finally saw the movie last night in the Cine Capri (largest movie screen in AZ). Just a few of my thoughts:

I am not as enamored with these Marvel movies because unfortunately I am too familiar with the source material and do not like all the changes they have made to several characters to adapt them to movies. I have said before I wish I had not spent the past 45 years reading comics and I would probably enjoy these movies more. But, putting aside that, they did a great job of wrapping up arcs for several characters and there was lots to love here. I like Tony Stark’s send off as well as Captain America’s.

Thor in the movie is just so different from the comic and if it wasn’t for the costume and title I would not recognize the character I grew up reading. I have a hard time believing Thor would regret killing a villain like Thanos let alone it impacting him to the point where he just gives up. His character has been the most butchered of all the characters in these movies and this final movie just was more of the same.

Why did Captain Marvel wait so long at the end to destroy Thanos’ ship? It seems like she could have taken the ship down immediately after it started bombarding the ground and we could have avoided a big fight. Along those same lines why did Thanos and his army stand there letting the Avengers and allies assemble?

I like that they actually killed off major characters instead of having them live so another actor ala Jame Bond can carry the mantle. I believe this will just mean we will inevitably get a reboot which might give us a chance to see some of these characters reinterpreted for the movies. I hold out hope I will eventually see the noble Thor I grew up with on the big screen.

Now that the heroes can time travel and have used it successfully a few times, it will be hard to believe they will not use it again in the future when things get dire. Unless Kang or Doctor Doom step in and make the consequences of having done so a negative. This kinda reminds me of when Superman reversed time in the original movie to bring back Lois Lane and Jimmy Olsen.

Why did SHIELD not have a bigger presence at the final fight and during the Tony Stark sendoff?

I know the Vision was not created after the time jumping but I hope they find a way to bring the character back. His absence as well as SHIELD’s was noticeable by me.

It wIll be interesting to see where they go now that Tony Stark aka Robert Downey Jr. is gone. That single character has done more to define these movies and not always in a positive way.

Oh, I did have one question:

10 minutes ago, drotto said:

Did you also find the direction kinda flat? To me the camera angles, pacing, etc just did not seem to build any tension.  Also the fight scenes seemed competent, not exciting. I never felt anyone was every in any real danger.  Some of that was likely due to prequelitis.  It is always hard to build and sustain stakes when you know the characters, and the planet are just fine 20 years later.  From a visual standpoint it was good, but felt right out of the earlier MCU playbook, not original. This was part of my reaction, since the later MCU movies have managed to develop nuanced styles that vary from movie to movie, and character to character. Never felt that here.

I am sticking by my 6/10.

I thought they were attempting a throwback to a 70s style of directing and it did fall flat to me.  One of the bigger problem I had with the fight scenes was I didn't understand Captain Marvel's powers.  Hulk is strong, Captain America has strength and uses the shield, Thor has strength and uses the hammer, Iron Man has flight and repulsors,  etc.  Captain Marvel is ... strong, has glowing hands, and can punches hard; can blasts things from a distance; turns into some sort of flaming character in space (does she do this in the comics?); can heat up things by touching them, is yet another Marvel character with a super-powered suit (probably my biggest complaint with the MCU), etc.  It really felt all over the map.  She is basically Superman plus.  There was no tension or sense of danger because she is invulnerable.

I think 6/10 is fair.  I would have said 5/10 personally.  TBH, I wish I had not grown up reading comic books, because I would probably enjoy these movies more.

I went to the movie yesterday with my family and some couple friends.  The general reception was positive.  Just one friend did not like it.  I thought it was below Marvel's usually high standards.  Definitely in the bottom of the Marvel movies for me, somewhere around Iron Man 3.

It is clear from reading through some of the reviews, many of these bad reviews are from people who did not even see the movie.  Just the same political b.s. that has been plaguing blockbuster reviews for a while now.  It is too bad Rotten Tomatoes has an influence on some movie goers.  Their system is severely broken and in need of an overhaul.  Including their critic review scores.

Unfortunately, I don't have tickets for this weekend, but I'll be seeing this movie next weekend.  I've always been a fan of Marvel's cosmic characters and I'm looking forward to how they handle the Skrulls.

Rotten Tomatoes has their audience score up and this movie has a dismal 34% liked it score.  I guess Rotten Tomatoes didn't purge the bad reviews this movie was getting before the movie was even out?  Watch Rotten Tomatoes tweak this review process some more to appease the big studios.

This is my least favorite Marvel movie. The first movie was Disniefied and this one more so. The plot holes are jarring. And the humor was forced. I sat in a full theater and there was hardly any laughing. The few scenes where the heroes actually do something are decent but too few and far between.

This is such an inconsequential Marvel movie. I recommend skipping this one at the theater and saving money.

After Panther and Avengers this was a big disappointment. Definitely kid safe and aimed at younger kids.

5 hours ago, Gatsby77 said:

Agreed - but RJRJR specifically questioned whether Infinity War will "double its first week" by the end of its domestic run.

I mis-read that as "weekend" and checked the usual suspects -- including those you mentioned. I legit thought it would be Harry Potter 8 -- which was legendary at the time for how fast it fell.

It lost 72% in its second weekend -- from $169 million to just $47 million -- that's $120 million worse in second frame.

_Still_ was the # 1 film of the year.

Nope -- turns out I was wrong -- BvS had worse overall legs.

I'm glad someone read what I wrote.  I was talking about the 1st week.  This movie has not double it's first week domestically yet.

I'll let everyone get back to the whataboutism that overtook this thread.

Will it be able to double it’s first week by the time it is over? I do not remember a hit movie being so front loaded. Probably the future of cinema.

On 5/8/2018 at 6:34 AM, jimjum12 said:

The CGI just keeps getting better and better.... I can't think of anything that was "fakey" ..... GOD BLESS....

-jimbo(a friend of jesus)

On 4/17/2018 at 10:38 AM, David70364 said:

Is Star Wars #9 the 1st appearance of the Cloud-riders? They look to be in the solo movie.

Star Wars #8 has the first appearance.  Star Wars #9 has the first cover appearance.  It will be interesting to see if there is more in common between the two besides the name.  I have no doubt there will be more in common than Star Wars #49 has with TLJ.

Star Wars #8 also has the first appearance of Jaxxon who just made his first appearance in the Disney canon this week.

4 hours ago, F For Fake said:

I agree completely, but I think there's still a mental disconnect with a lot of collectors re: magazines. No matter how influential, how important, or how cool, a lot of collectors just don't seem to want to deal with them. There are definitely exceptions (as our own esteemed magazine forum will attest) and I feel like there has been some forward momentum on that front in recent years, but they still seem to lag behind their smaller, punier cousins.

I believe we will see that barrier for magazines fall eventually.  We are starting to see it fall for international editions.  I imagine someday, we'll be able to look across the entire spectrum of ephemeral products that contain comic pages and talk about comics collectively instead of categorizing them like they are now (pamphlets, paperbacks, international editions, magazines, etc.)  That is when the true awareness of what this hobby has to offer will really kick in.  What is the most popular comic today?  What comic fetches the highest price?  Which comics are truly rare?  I think the answers will surprise many comic collectors who are only aware of the American pamphlet market.

15 hours ago, jcjames said:

 

Well CGC hasn't identified either as being Boba Fett's first appearance (or even 1st cover) YET, so maybe there's still time (even though Voldemort has declared his 1st app to be SW42).

 

Star Wars Weekly #129 has the 1st Boba Fett cover.

As you mentioned, the Marvel Comics Illustrated Empire Strikes Back paperback is the first appearance of Boba Fett in comics.  Why go for the 2nd or 3rd printing (depending on if the magazine or Treasury was published first) of the Boba Fett artwork when the paperback is the first printing?  Does it matter if CGC slabs paperbacks or not?  If CGC started slabbing paperbacks, everyone would just qualify Star Wars #42 as the first pamphlet format appearance of Boba Fett, the paperback as the 1st appearance of Boba Fett, and Marvel Super Special as the 1st magazine appearance of Boba Fett and I'd bet the comic format would still be the higher priced format.

Momentum is on the side of Star Wars #42.  In the end, it doesn't matter what makes sense, just what collectors are willing to spend their money on.

2 hours ago, paperheart said:

the Marvel Universe is the Marvel Cinematic Universe. the monthly publications aren't even the tail that wags the dog, they are the ticks that fly off the dogs tail.  BP will make a half a billion dollar profit; has the publishing division made that amount of profit in its entire existence?

You won't get any arguments from me about this.  Definitely more people have watched a Marvel movie than have read a Marvel comic.  Which is why they can get away with not staying true to the printed characters.  They have definitely forged a new direction for many of the characters in the movies and if it wasn't for the names and some other tidbits, many of them would be unrecognizable to someone familiar with the comics.  My understanding is many people who read the comics even prefer the movie version over the comic version.

On 3/19/2018 at 9:30 AM, gadzukes said:

I think we humans enjoy seeing records broken, whether it's an athletic record, or a record price for a comic book, or a movie box office record.  Everyone knew the first Avengers movie was going to do really well at the box office, but Black Panther (and to a slightly lesser degree Wonder Woman) came out and SO exceeded expectations that I really cheer for it's success.  Part of me knows it's just the industry getting rich, but another part of me is rooting for the movie to just keep breaking records.  

Black Panther has always been a "B" list character in the Marvel Universe.  NO MORE!  BP will now be "A" list all the way. 

Marvel Cinematic Universe.  The success of this movie unfortunately won't pull Black Panther up to a "A" list character in the Marvel Universe.

You don't need to look any further than Guardians of the Galaxy as an example.  "B" characters before the movie and "B" characters today after two movies and countless attempts by Marvel to create a GOTG comic that has longevity.

Having problems on eBay right now and tried it from several browsers.  All attempts to place a bid result in a modal window that doesn't allow any input.  I also see the same when trying to use a best offer.  Anyone else having issues?

On 1/31/2018 at 8:56 PM, roach04 said:

I just got the email too.  Be interesting to see how this goes.  I think you guys are bang on - why let PayPal get the fees when eBay can get them (again).  I'm trying to remember why they sold PayPal in the first place...but too lazy to Google it.  

Never a dull moment with eBay.

Carl Icahn forced it.

10 hours ago, zhamlau said:

Just looked at the sum and weekly totals for TLJ and I think now Its more likely this movie will do about 700 million less than its lead in TFA. I think it did about the same numbers in China for example as Alien:covenant or Murder on the Orient Express and be CRUSHED by such power-houses as "GeoStorm" and "Valerian". Why this matters is simple: The Chinese were going off pure entertainment value. They have no such fanboy devotion to Star Wars many of its strongest supporters here do. They just care "did it give me the enterains?"...it appears that it did not despite a heavy marketing campaign in country. its going to do about 20% of what TFA did, and about 33% of Rogue One.  When you strip out fanboy loyalty, this movie on it merits alone tends do to "meh" at best.  Rian managed to cost Disney nearly 700 million in lost potential revenue, Likely damaged the Chinese Market for future SW films, and overall created a movie that overall was somewhat disliked by the people who actually pay for the tickets.

This hurts future product, and his -tastic choices will I believe haunt Disney and their investment in SW for a generation. As a lifetime fan who even made star wars his living for a while, this really bothers me. I almost hope they pull some sort of "Time inverter" trick or other such nonsense and undo most of it in the final one.

 

Worldwide Summary	Rogue One	Star Wars: The Force Awakens	Star Wars: The Last Jedi
Worldwide Gross	$1,056,057,273	$2,068,223,624	$1,312,210,006
Foreign Gross	$523,879,949	$1,131,561,399	$701,091,802
Foreign % of Worldwide	49.6%	54.7%	53.4%
Domestic Gross	$532,177,324	$936,662,225	$611,118,204
Domestic % of Worldwide	50.4%	45.3%	46.6%

All I see is a movie that did huge numbers at the box office?  Top movie at the box office last year by far. 

Haters are gonna hate.

Is that X-Men Gold cover for real?  I'm ... speechless!

We can close this thread now.  Nothing is going to top that book.

14 hours ago, zhamlau said:

And two years of defensive fans pretending cr-p is gold.

4 minutes ago, Marwood & I said:

You meant the Watcher didn't you rjrjrjrjr? 

Yes, Watcher.  The guy who wears a robe and lives on the moon.  Shows you how long it's been since I've read a Marvel book. 

On 1/15/2018 at 12:42 PM, JazzMan said:

Back to the topic of incredibly badly done MJs.  (hehe)  This is why I don't buy many moderns.

Is that a female Beyonder?