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On 6/7/2017 at 2:58 PM, Gatsby77 said:
Here's where I disagree - it won't catch Guardians but it can _certainly_ hold better (and stay in theaters longer) than SS.
Because that movie sucked donkey balls.
Also, there is zero chance that WW won't repeat at # 1 this weekend, smoking Tom Cruise's The Mummy.
Regardless of how you felt about that movie, Suicide Squad had higher than average hold over. Wonder Woman won't be able to pass it.
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I'll bet the Copper Age folks would love to see this book.
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On 6/3/2017 at 2:14 PM, rjrjr said:
Do you have pictures of the Star Wars #1 - 4 $0.35 variants? Those books continue to astonish with the prices they fetch.
Which books did you pay the most for?
Not sure of the OP saw this or not.
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On 6/4/2017 at 8:45 PM, ablue said:
That's awesome. Congrats on the collection.. Funny thing though. A few days ago I was rummaging through an old box of comics I have had for 25 years and it was just sitting in the closet never looked at hardly.As I was going through them I found Marvel super heroes #65 and #66 .35 variants in extremely high grades.. The person I bought the books from had bagged the comics as soon as he bought them.These were just forgotten for years.
Nice find!
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On 6/6/2017 at 4:10 AM, bronze johnny said:
How many chase Stan Lee signature books? How many remove the books from the slabs? There are countless variations in the universe of cgc collectors. Again, there are a great deal more cgc collectors than those who collect price variants.
Your attempt to compare cgc collectors to an extremely to those who collect BAcprice variants -an extremely specialized area of comic collecting- assumes that those all of those who collect slab books do so for the slab an not the book and fails to take into account that there are many collectors who purchase via the internet and want a guaranteed restoration check that cgc affords. We will continue to disagree on one significant point- Star Wars 1 35 cent price variant is not a mainstream book. The Star Wars 30 cent copy is.
Who was arguing it was? I was just pointing out that collecting the top graded CGC book is not mainstream either.
I figured in a thread that is trying to reason if the IH #181 or Cerebus #1 is the top valued book in the Bronze Age in top grade, it would be informative to tell everyone there is another book that sells for more than twice as much as both of these in top grade. You can caveat it all you want, but it doesn't change anything. Cerebus #1 has even less books graded that this Star Wars #1 variant so is that a non-mainstream comic book, whatever that means, as well?
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On 6/6/2017 at 8:51 AM, Marwood & I said:
Ouch!
On 6/6/2017 at 8:51 AM, Marwood & I said:
"She had man-hands!"
Overall, a nice selection of covers, but these two ...
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17 hours ago, bronze johnny said:
True, CGC exclusive collectors represent a smaller percentage of overall comic book collectors. Think we can agree that the universe of CGC collectors is a hell of a lot bigger than the one consisting of Bronze Age price variant collectors? Imagine how many Bronze Age books have been graded since CGC's inception? Now try to imagine how many of those graded Bronze Age books are price variants? Do you think price variant collectors are representative of the average CGC Bronze Age collector? The average CGC collector overall? Think it's safe to say that the average CGC collector is more representative of the overall comic book collector in terms of collecting mainstream books (albeit with the condition of a copy being a major attribute) than someone who collects Bronze Age price variants (a very specialized area of collecting given the scarcity of these books and the fact that an average collector is satisfied with having a mainstream copy of Star Wars 1 in their collection).
Then there are collectors who collect both raw and CGC graded books? There are those who collect books graded by CGC and its competitors? We can also include collectors who collect raw, graded, and restored books? We then have those who collect exclusive raw comic collectors? Do you think the percentage of price variant collectors will change in any of these collector universes? We can agree to disagree.
How many collectors chase the top graded CGC books?
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On 6/2/2017 at 9:10 PM, comics4all said:
I was thinking about this too, but I think it is a just a fake controversy to get us talking.
I don't think the House of Mouse would be letting Mark talk bad about it & this isn't the only time.
He said Daisy & him had big reservations about the story but he trusts the director.
I smell Bantha poop
This is not exactly the kind of controversy a studio wants though. Early leaks of problems with the story has a tendency to turn off movie goers.
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4 hours ago, VinnyT said:
Where are all the new Sketch variants??
I'm not a hardcore collector by any means, but I am always interested in collecting those super hard to get sketch variants (1:100+). Has Marvel stopped making them?? The last Quesada sketch variant I saw was the Spiderman wedding. Turner, I don't even remember. The batman vol 2 sketches were cool... for the 10 or so issues... but outside of that, am I correct in saying there hasn't been anything?
Is there a site that announces these types of variants in advance? Am i just not looking in the right place, or do they not exist?
Star Wars #26 was the last sketch variant for that title. Darth Maul #1 had a sketch variant. There are some upcoming Star Wars sketch exclusives, but nothing that will be going to retailers.
I've noticed Marvel has been scaling back the Star Wars variants the past few months. I'm guessing they are looking into why there sales are suffering and this is one area they are examining. (Or we could hope this is the case!)
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19 hours ago, bronze johnny said:
You do. Those who collect price variants do not represent the average collector.
Those who collect CGC slabs don't represent the average collector either.
Regardless, I'll drop it.
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9 hours ago, Jaydogrules said:
Agreed. Variants need to have their own discussion. Comparing the star wars 35 cents variant to a hulk 181 is like comparing the ASM 667 variant to Nyx 3 in the modern age and touting how much more valuable the 667 is. They're just two different conversations.
And yes, looking at one sale of one grade of cerebus 1 and proclaiming it more valuable than hulk 181 based on that is silly.
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But, if you are looking at the most valuable modern books, why wouldn't you look at all the books instead of selectively choosing which ones "count" and which don't?
Regardless, that is not the discussion of this thread. I don't think anyone is going to change their mind on which is more valuable, IH #181 or Cerebus #1. What does Overstreet show? Still Cerebus #1?
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9 hours ago, bronze johnny said:
The existing evidence supporting Cerebus 1's value over Hulk 181's is insufficient. Just not a large enough sample to go on.
Do you think it's fair to compare a 35 cent variant of Star Wars 1 to a mainstream book like Hulk 181? There are many, many more collectors who do not collect variants than those who do (no offense to variant collectors- I respect those who do). That being said, Star Wars 1 35 cent variant is the most valuable BA variant book- and that is a great distinction nevertheless.
It's the most valuable BA book, you don't need to qualify it.
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Those hardcover Famous 1st Editions are really cool.
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Do you have pictures of the Star Wars #1 - 4 $0.35 variants? Those books continue to astonish with the prices they fetch.
Which books did you pay the most for?
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It does appear Cerebus is still the more valuable of the two Bronze Age books in high grade.
But I don't think anything comes close to this:
I don't have recent data (the article is a year old), but this is from the article:
"Recently a CGC 9.4 sold for $26,290, which was up from the previous record of $23,000 which was up from $11,131 months earlier."
How much did this CGC 4.0 actually get? Astonishing money for a 4.0:
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4 hours ago, Ken Aldred said:
Don't forget the must-have Foom 2.
Essential addition to any Wolverine collection.
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13 minutes ago, FineCollector said:
(Edit, someone already mentioned Previews!
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Trading cards have it right... Crosby has a card with his junior team, the Rimouski Oceanic, but it's not a rookie card because he hadn't played in the pros yet. Same should go for comics: advertising is advertising, but a first appearance doesn't count until it's in a story. I hate that we have to argue this.
I have no problem if someone wants to say a magazine is a 1st appearance of a character. But most of us collect comic books, so it is the first appearance in a comic book story that most care about. It is a rare few who value the panel in a magazine article or an ad in a comic. And I don't see that changing in my lifetime.
We agree BTW!
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28 minutes ago, SteppinRazor said:
Why does the creator owe their fans?
They don't. Fan entitlement is one of the reasons why these creators are so jaded IMHO.
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11 hours ago, ComicConnoisseur said:
Of course he is not worth 94 million dollars,but I am pretty sure he is worth at least a million.
Everyone at his age should be at least worth a million, regardless of which industry they worked in. How else are they going to retire?
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1 minute ago, Lazyboy said:
But there is and has been for years. Show us the first time that advertising material of any type was referred to as a first appearance in any comic-related publication.
It seems kind of self serving, doesn't it? Imagine Wizard magazine claiming the first appearance of a character occurred in a previous issue of Wizard magazine.
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5 hours ago, classicaaron said:
comic only appearances are all that count. preview books or an ad in another comic do not equal a first appearance. basically like they say a sucker is born every minute and dealers know it so they will try to hype anything up.
I collect comic books, not magazines about comics. If others want to spend their hard earned money on an issue of Previews (most modern 1st appearance are in Diamond's Previews magazine) then more power to them. I'll still collect comic books. I'm guessing this is true of 99% of comic collectors.
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44 minutes ago, Dogsupreme said:
What is VOLDY? Is there a link?
The other grading company we don't talk about.
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Here is a group shot of some foreign treasuries I acquired in the past year:
The 2 in the back are the Heritage treasuries from Canada. The 3 in the middle are Indonesian treasuries. The next 2 are the Philippine and Australian treasuries.
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It took over an hour to read, but this has been an enjoyable thread. Probably the best since the new boards started.
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Infinite Bronze Horror Thread
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Sounds like a riff on Sesame Street's count!