kustomizer

I feel like telling this guy I'm willing to bid $100K if he could post more photos of those 6 Hulks and I like the look of them.

I like how he misspelled Ferrigno, to make it look as if he's just some clueless non-pro who doesn't know what he has in those dubious first 6 Hulk issues and only knows Hulk from TV.

valiantman wrote: 'It wasn't that white in 1962, let alone 58 years later.' Tell me about it. I was born in 1962 as well and have the same condition.

In the event of a mishap, how can either party prove the scans are of the same book?

Jeez, I would not put a book with that corner damage in the 9+ range.

The guy just keeps listing more and more. I notice that a lot of the replicas are quite poorly trimmed, so at least that's something to watch for. I can't believe he's going to a printer where they have no regard for copyright. Maybe he's getting them done in China. Ah well, who knows?! I thought it was worth flagging this, as I'm sure it'll lead to problems down the track.

As far as I can tell, these books do not have 'replica' printed on them anywhere. The whole idea appears to be these are copies that cost way less than originals for collectors who just have to have them. At best, they can fool their collector buddies with their seemingly impressive aquisitions. At worst, they can try to resell them as genuine. I don't see this as any different than printing up exact copies of $100 bills and selling those as replicas. It's just unbelievable.

He apparently uses newsprint paper for the interiors, not sure what he has for the covers. They don't look vibrant/saturated enough on his photos, but they might be better in person. From his feedback, people seem pretty happy with the results. In 10 or 20 years, will new collectors be able to tell the difference between these and originals?

FF #61 was the first late-60s Kirby FF I ever saw, around 1977 when I ordered it sight unseen. It's right in the middle of Kirby's absolute peak years.

Actually, I'm here to be convinced that Gil wasn't all that bad after all. His cowboy covers were somehow better than his superhero stuff, probably because he preferred the genre. But when I look at his cover to X-Men #76, all bets are off.

He always drew dinosaurs with snake-like heads. I can't believe he was assigned the Jurassic Park comics.

Gil Kane is one of my least favourite artists of all time. His characters all look like those poseable wooden figures at art shops, with really weird anatomy. And all those ugly up-the-nose shots + knock-kneed poses. His cover to X-Men #76 pretty much captures everything I don't like about ol' Gil!

Probably easier to get away with fake copies of this too, as you wouldn't know what the genuine article is supposed to look like, being an indie printing.

KNOWN supply, obviously. And everyone knows what a warehouse book is, so shove your snide little insults. Is being a creepy passive-aggressive misanthrope like you acceptable on this board, is it? Nasty, nasty...

WARNING! DO NOT READ IF THIS SUBJECT IS BORING TO YOU! We know for a fact that Hulk #181 was included in the Mile High II collection of 1.5 million uncirculated books. I've spoken with a dealer in the US who says Chuck used to trade quantities of his bulk finds as a way of 'laundering' and varying his stock. Guys would just sit on multi-copy boxes for years, being careful not to flood the market all at once -- unlike this all-things-comics dude who now lists around 10 x Hulk #181 per month. From this very board, a thread called 'I thought Incredible Hulk 181(Wolverine) was rare and hard to find?' posted in 'Comics general'. Posted May 4, 2009 Topnotchman 'I was at one of Carbanaros NY conventions in what I think was year 2000, the year CGC was getting organized. The conversation amongst a few dealers was about a guy in New Jersey who still had a brown box case of uncirculated Hulk 181. The debate was do you just pull one book at a time and sell it without telling people you have hundreds.'

Yeah, except the scenario of uncirculated case-loads is actually genuine.

Jeez, I hope that's not gonna happen.

The price has been manipulated to where it is now. People pay according to their perceptions, not reality. What if it came out that there are case-loads of 150,000 VF/NM copies of 181?

I've seen similar listings on eBay before, but the sellers seem to go underground pretty quickly. I contacted one of them last year as if I was interested in purchasing from him. Initially he said he could reprint virtually any comic I wanted, but after a further equiry he stopped responding. Probably got spooked. This is pretty serious stuff, making near exact replicas of items that are worth tens of thousands of dolllars. His feedback is good, buyers are impressed with the quality.

Aside from copyright, the biggest potential problem is these could be passed off as originals.

Yeah, that's pretty much the point. These books are common and supply exceeds demand.

The fact that he's been selling multiples of these issues, week after week for at least ten years, reasonably implies he has warehouse level quantities of them. I guess nobody who's spent thousands of dollars on common books wants to know about this, however.

Some guy's selling home-made 'replicas' of Silver and Golden Age keys, quite blatantly: https://www.ebay.com/sch/sun_tzu_lao/m.html?item=224139018032&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562

And here's an unofficial 'replica' of it that some guy's had printed. That's kinda scary: https://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Incredible-Hulk-181-Bronze-Age-Classic-Replica-Edition-Wolverine-Mint/224139018032?_trkparms=aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20200818142525%26meid%3D15e09f12e3674e75894ddcac0b3ca91a%26pid%3D101195%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dpf%26sd%3D202913984060%26itm%3D224139018032%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DSimplAMLv5PairwiseWebWithBBEV2bDemotion&_trksid=p2047675.c101195.m1851

Yet another one's just gone up, for those who still need it: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Incredible-Hulk-181-Vol-1-Near-Perfect-High-Grade-1st-Wolverine-w-Marvel-Stamp/202913984060?hash=item2f3e9dae3c:g:V4kAAOSwORhd52Dw