DrWatson

Looks like you're on the probation list because you didn't pay for two books you bought for a total price of $55. That doesn't instill a lot of confidence in the sellers here that you would follow through and pay for any hypothetical Wolverine 35 9.8, a book that would command significantly more money.

 

 

there are issues that came up with that sale that I will not discuss here...also I won't be goaded into a war or words...I could care less if anyone sold me anything on here for the rest of my life thanks...also thanks for your unwanted opinion

Was I the first to turn you down?

So?

So, where is vtcomics' strike?

Probably just a PM warning.

A warning after a third offense? Whatever, the ever consistent moderators strike (or not) again.

Old news. Pitboss and someone else is on it. Dre knows he's on the probation at this point.

So, where is vtcomics' strike?

And further, if a boardie posts a pic of a comic and lists his/her personal grade why is that not sufficient?

It is sufficient. As long as the picture of the comic is raw. You can even post a picture of an Avengers 161 in Very Fine and call it Near Mint + with a $15 price tag.

Ultimately I am the one who will have to answer to the buyer.

Yes, and you will be here to answer to the buyer if something goes wrong. You aren't a post today and gone tomorrow board participant. You aren't here solely to take advantage of a free selling arena. Preparation H didn't label their suppositories "Do Not Eat" for people such as yourself.

All of these people aren't around anymore or are no longer willing to answer to the buyer:

THE HALL OF SHAME

The following Board Members have been elected by the community to the

Probation List's "Hall of Shame" for gross misconduct as members in the

Marketplace Forum:

• Herald2Galactus
  (Inaugural Member & 1st "Hall of Shame" Member)
   
  
• gilbertotorres
  (added 11/5/08 - 2nd "Hall of Shame" Member)
   
  
• ComicSupply
  (added 10/28/08 - 3rd "Hall of Shame" Member)
   
  
• CAP freak
  (added 5/21/09 - 4th "Hall of Shame" Member)
   
  
• AlleyBat aka BucOne aka WolfHulk aka Roxx Gang aka MarkWeb aka lastyle7 aka royig aka Punkkitty aka bamaboy aka Greenpep
  (added 5/23/08 - 5th "Hall of Shame" Member)
   
  
• TFL
  (added 6/2/09 - 6th "Hall of Shame" Member)
   
  
• Dr. Frankenstein aka muscleshark
  (added 5/3/10 - 7th "Hall of Shame" Member)
   
  
• TheDanimal
  (added 8/12/10 - 8th "Hall of Shame" Member)
   
  
• MachineGunned aka William Townsend aka Chester Jordan
  (added 8/31/10 - 9th "Hall of Shame" Member)
   
  
• Joker-Fish
  (added 11/3/10 - 10th "Hall of Shame" Member)

THE PROBATION LIST

The following Board Members are currently on "Probation" for failure to complete a Marketplace Forum transaction in good faith after one month's time. Those with an "Off-Board" notation indicate the failed transaction occurred outside of the CGC Message Boards.

[*] aaron568 (added 11/6/08)

[*] BATMANFAN (added 2/9/10)

[*] bkwon12 (added 10/08/09)

[*] brasseye (added 7/2/09)

[*] bronzejunkie (added 3/26/07)

[*] Chrissr (added 12/22/09)

[*] clobberintime (added 11/7/07)

[*] comicmankev (added 3/27/07)

[*] comicseekers (added 9/14/10)

[*] daken2626 (added 10/14/11)

[*] DarkKnight2K4 (added 4/24/08)

[*] Dimebag_D (added 12/17/11)

[*] donavan74 (added 3/27/07)

[*] erbdom (added 12/08/09)

[*] ffxmen14 (added 4/12/10)

[*] Gaijin2010 (added 9/24/10)

[*] Ghastly (added by majority vote 12/3/07)

[*] Hammerhead (voluntarily added 7/27/11)

[*] Henchman (added 4/25/08)

[*] HGComics (added 10/7/09)

[*] htown79 (added 8/4/10)

[*] holyghost (added 6/30/11)

[*] itsatoy67 (added 9/21/11)

[*] kevin109 (added 4/19/10)

[*] Lighthouse (added 6/13/07)

[*] Marc Wolfe (added 9/15/08)

[*] Marvelguy34 (added 8/5/11)

[*] matewan1990 (added 3/3/08)

[*] mishu2nite (added 3/3/10)

[*] mjacobs8 (added 1/24/09)

[*] Nascar (added 6/2/07)

[*] NEXTLVL (added 10/12/08)

[*] panahobit (added 3/8/11)

[*] rza808 (added 10/18/11)

[*] SAGAT (added 4/29/11) - Off Board via eBay - eBay ID Miffybunny

[*] Sid (added 8/8/07)

[*] SilverSlinky (added 11/20/09)

[*] SIXX_VAN_ROSE (added 11/7/08)

[*] SpiderJay300 (added 9/15/07)

[*] Superman20 (added 12/18/07)

[*] Taz007 aka Thesavros aka Rudolph (added 7/15/09)

[*] Tyson (added 10/7/11)

[*] ZoMbiE13 (added 9/21/11)

Oh, and Merry Christmas, Happy Christmas, Joyeux Noël, Happy Holidays, Happy Chanukah, Feliz Navidad, Happy Kwanzaa and Merry Kissmyass.

There you go. I think I covered all my bases with North American, traditional English, French, non-denominational, Jewish, Spanish, African Heritage and redneck.

I think the line CGC has already drawn is fine.

Great! So no need to change them (thumbs u

According to the current administration, change is good.

I'm not a lawyer at all. Plus, I don't shop Brian's sales threads. Thirdly, more power to him. It's a shame one rotten apple can spoil the entire barrel so that label scans are a requirement.

 

So you just make sheet up to argue? Do the facts matter?

Sign post. Wrong road home. Have at it.

I'm not a lawyer at all. Plus, I don't shop Brian's sales threads. Thirdly, more power to him. It's a shame one rotten apple can spoil the entire barrel so that label scans are a requirement.

Of course, I should have thought better. Scanning the label when you scan a graded book requires so much extra time that selling would become a herculean task and therefor no longer worth the time or the effort.

Got anything other than sarcasm?

 

Doubles the number of scans if you don't have a scanner compatible with the entire slab. I think the sales rates for someone like Foolkiller make it clear that a seller of high integrity shouldn't be forced to show labels.

Brian isn't going to try and sell slabs by posting a picture of a graded book sans the label. Plus, if one is selling so many graded books that doubling the number of scans is a deterrent then it's high time they invested in a legal size scanner. I think mine cost around $200 and GACollectibles picked one up off of eBay a few months ago for about the same.

In regards to your above reproach argument, I remember when Jason Ewert was above approach.

Besides, I thought you were all in favor of any and all information one could glean from the seller in order to analyze a potential sale to death before pulling the trigger. Surely the label would contain a wealth of information as not to be omitted.

Who are the five nitwits that have voted, "no"?

You were all five nitwits?

 

So, what's wrong with having to have the full label displayed if you are selling graded books in the CGC Selling Forum?

 

Because if you're a seller who is beyond reproach and posts plenty of CGC-encapsulated comics for sale with the entirety of the book but not of the label visible by scan, the rule has no benefit and pointlessly serves to increase the sellers' work.

Of course, I should have thought better. Scanning the label when you scan a graded book requires so much extra time that selling would become a herculean task and therefor no longer worth the time or the effort.

Who are the five nitwits that have voted, "no"?

You were all five nitwits?

So, what's wrong with having to have the full label displayed if you are selling graded books in the CGC Selling Forum?

I need to amend it to seven.

I don't think it's a problem for you to deal with him, but not on the boards...

 

 

 

I would like for us to petition Arch to follow Jim's suggestion. Anyone who sells a graded book, in a case, must show the label.

 

Does anyone object?

 

Would a poll be better than just asking?

(thumbs u

 

I think that either the label should be shown or declaring that the book is CGC graded should suffice.

A declaration means nothing. The ones that crop the label out to circumvent the already established rules wouldn't have any problem declaring a book to be CGC graded when it isn't.

 

Maybe we don't need any new rules. We already have well established selling guidelines agreed on by the community. If a seller can't abide by the guidelines is the solution to add on more rules? Or should we just address the issue directly with the person who can't follow the rules? Phil is not new to the sales forum, he knows the rules, but apparently thinks they don't apply to him.

I don't see it as adding a new rule, just expanding a rule that's already in place. Showing a full scan, including the label, would eliminate the "is it PGX or isn't it" deliberations.

I don't think it's a problem for you to deal with him, but not on the boards...

 

 

 

I would like for us to petition Arch to follow Jim's suggestion. Anyone who sells a graded book, in a case, must show the label.

 

Does anyone object?

 

Would a poll be better than just asking?

(thumbs u

 

I think that either the label should be shown or declaring that the book is CGC graded should suffice.

A declaration means nothing. The ones that crop the label out to circumvent the already established rules wouldn't have any problem declaring a book to be CGC graded when it isn't.

Who are the five nitwits that have voted, "no"?

I don't know if this is probation material, but it is concerning to me none the less.

If nothing else, it's grounds for a weeks vacation as evidenced by the Trey Canon strike.

I think we need an amendment to the selling rules which would state that any photographs depicting graded books should also show pictures of the labels.

There is currently a sales thread with what appears to be graded books, but no photographs of labels. I have already had two separate PMs from people asking me if I thought the books might be PGX books.

However, I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest, that most times when a book goes up two grades "something" has been done to it.

That's your assumption.

Seeing as you practice in Alabama, I bet sister-wife has a completely different connotation there than it does on the TV show.

You know what would also be helpful? It would be great if sellers also disclosed how much they paid for a book they're selling. I, for one, would like to know how much they are making on the sale as that would influence my decision on whether or not I want to buy.

 

And I want to know as much as I can about the condition of a comic when I can't see it in person. Period.

 

 

I could be wrong here (speaking from my own perspective which is obviously a bit different). But I think it is not you seeking the information so much as the attitudinal component.,.subjecting every seller's threads to YOUR personal views just seems a bit rude for lack of a better term. It seems to me that you would be welcome to ask whatever you want of the seller via PM as well as post concerns you have in what has been identified as the appropriate place (by consensus not unanimity I realize )

 

I really think you are risking alienating some folks here...as well as proposing a pattern of behavior that could easily become destructive in the marketplace (good intentioned as you may be, but you have to realize some of the grudges folks have here, and the acceptance of disrupting sales threads in the way you did could lead to a free for all ).

 

Well put

He's a shrink.

 

So is that an endorsement or condemnation?

More like an inoculation.

You know what would also be helpful? It would be great if sellers also disclosed how much they paid for a book they're selling. I, for one, would like to know how much they are making on the sale as that would influence my decision on whether or not I want to buy.

 

And I want to know as much as I can about the condition of a comic when I can't see it in person. Period.

 

 

I could be wrong here (speaking from my own perspective which is obviously a bit different). But I think it is not you seeking the information so much as the attitudinal component.,.subjecting every seller's threads to YOUR personal views just seems a bit rude for lack of a better term. It seems to me that you would be welcome to ask whatever you want of the seller via PM as well as post concerns you have in what has been identified as the appropriate place (by consensus not unanimity I realize )

 

I really think you are risking alienating some folks here...as well as proposing a pattern of behavior that could easily become destructive in the marketplace (good intentioned as you may be, but you have to realize some of the grudges folks have here, and the acceptance of disrupting sales threads in the way you did could lead to a free for all ).

 

Well put

He's a shrink.

You know what would also be helpful? It would be great if sellers also disclosed how much they paid for a book they're selling. I, for one, would like to know how much they are making on the sale as that would influence my decision on whether or not I want to buy.

 

And I want to know as much as I can about the condition of a comic when I can't see it in person. Period.

 

Knowing if a book was previously graded two grades higher or lower by CGC says nothing about a books current condition.

Was it read in the bathroom?

I hate to break it to you after the sale, but you know that copy of Godzilla that was signed by Richard Evans and Eric Powell? Well, it did come from Bedrock City Comics...