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12 hours ago, batman_fan said:

Just saw one of the try-out pages on CLINK

Batman Try-out

I own one of these tryout pages but my understanding is they were done by someone in Kane studios.

Is this different than that Christies/Sothebys lot of half-finished pages that were credited to George Roussos "and others"?  IIRC they were from Batman 11 and 13 and most of them were from unknown hands.  But maybe that's a diferent set of pages.

10 minutes ago, Pete Marino said:

My money is on this guy:

 

I think this guy goes to the front of the line. 

29 minutes ago, SquareChaos said:

#1 is a safe bet, and as always, #2 is a risky proposition. 

I forgot the most likely possibility:

3) Actual whales.

2 hours ago, SquareChaos said:

Loss aversion is a thing, even perceived loss aversion. Humans are not very good at this sort of thing in general.

Based on this, my money is on collectors of the future being:

1) AI

2) Dogs

I like Gene's numbers.  It was a good way to see exactly where I fell off baller mountain. 

19 hours ago, jjonahjameson11 said:

As you say, YMMV, and this page simply can't come close to numerous pages from the 'If This Be My Destiny' trilogy or ASM Annual #1, but this is merely my opinion.

Yeah, I totally get that.  The #33 sequence is one of those things like the 1812 Overture or the Odessa Steps from POTEMKIN, but I was thinking in terms of single pages that stand alone.  I just find it hard to frame one page alone.   I think Annual 2 (where the heck did that thing go, anyway -- never seen a page to that story, and never even heard rumors about where it went) might just have the best ratio of money pages in it.  

On 10/23/2017 at 8:57 AM, delekkerste said:

Some people are speculating that it's Glen's page, but they just don't know which one (Gold or Brunswick).  Not kidding about this!  

Metro told me that the consignor doesn't have anything else (which wouldn't describe either Glen)...but, maybe they just don't want me or anyone else getting too close.  

In any case, my guess is $110-120K. 

Not my page, but thank you anonymous folks for suspecting my moral compass bends to the left like that.  My hunch is that the owner got it when the book broke up at a con in the mid-80s.  I was looking for it for a while, and did that thing of putting post-its next to all the Ditko pages in the Omnibus that equalled it.   That's how I came up with five.  YMMV.  I can also see the argument for it being in top ten instead, if certain character moments mean more to you. 

That is one of the five best Ditko ASM fight pages. 

The FF 77 cover is now at the top spot, 4 hours out -- 135K.  Of course nothing counts until the end, but I'm going to guess I was a little conservative when I guessed 150K. 

4 minutes ago, SquareChaos said:

That is definitely a strong point, but can we be certain it really impacts the outcome?

Consider that there is always a maximum bid in place as soon as the first person steps up to the plate. Assuming a bidder that rationalizes their price based on the current bid... they always have that data point don't they? No matter whether you've put in a tracking bid or a maximum bid. Granted, it may be argued that your maximum bid autobidding back into the top spot could spur them to greater efforts... but then if the only constraint on this hypothetical bidder is holding the top bid, it seems logically hard to argue that any strategy would defeat them.

What is this word "logic" you keep using? 

9 minutes ago, SquareChaos said:

At the end of the day, as long as you have a system that works for you and doesn't bankrupt you, you are ahead of the curve.

It's funny -- if you go back in the comicart-l archives to the very beginning, 20 or so years ago, you'll see people having the same argument.  Just bid and walk away vs. last minute.  I used to be the former until I realized that other people don't actually know how much to bid, just what other people value something at. 

Just to add to the discussion of how well priced things are as of now: everything I want to buy is too high, and everything I've consigned is too low.  Other data points welcome.

Cudos to c-link for giving at least one of the items a truly weird reserve.   I have a feeling that just *might* have surprised a joy bidder earlier this week. 

4 hours ago, cstojano said:

So I just looked at mine and it is 59 dollars a year for coverage of 56k worth of items. I think this was considerably cheaper than even CIA (cannot remember my rates). I suspect you have much more to insure than I and there may be a non-linear relationship between value and price.  This is for Valuable Personal Property. I know USAA offers collectibles insurance but I think that just links to a third party like Minico. I know people like CIA because you don't have to itemize items < 5k, but I like the itemization as it forces me to get organized. Now if I only I had kept better records/receipts at purchase...

As I recall, there might be some issue with renting vs owning.  As in: if you have homeowner's insurance it might be cheaper than if you're looking to add a rider to your renter's policy.  Or vice versa. 

12 hours ago, cstojano said:

I can tell you how CIA will treat you. They will drop you. I made two claims within the same year, one for 900 one for 1400. Both were shipping losses. They were very nice and paid very quickly but didn't renew the policy. This is odd because they locked in a loss with me. I would still be using their service if I could. Now I cannot get collectibles insurance as the other company that people often recommend declined to consider it given the loss reports. Lesson learned.  I have been told CIA would likely write me a dealer policy (for more money) but I haven't checked back yet.  For non-collectibles like OA I use a special policy with USAA called valuable personal property. I list everything with an uploaded picture and the premium is very fair. I would only trigger in the event of a catastrophic loss, however. This is not for collectibles but for original art it works.

I got a quote from USAA for comic art at one point (through one of their vendors, or whatever you call a company they have a deal with) and it came back at 4-5X other quotes.  I love those guys for auto and home insurance, but this isn't their forte. 

1 hour ago, PhilipB2k17 said:

I'm going to go a bit against the grain on this and suggest this may not be totally worthless. It's very possible that this is a production art piece made in order to reprint that Flash GA issue for a modern re-issue,. or graphic novel, etc. So, it depends on the provenance. It may even go back to the 70's.

It's not from the 1970s.  It's worth exactly what it would cost you to print a high rez (at least I hope it's high rez) scan on a piece of plastic. 

1 hour ago, comix4fun said:

 

How many Capullo covers will it take to get the FF cover?  

 

Depends on how much price testing is going to effect the Brexit negotiations. 

FF 77 now in the land of six figures. 

43 minutes ago, suspense39 said:

One thing I just noticed on the eBay app, in the upper right there are 3 dots, if you click on those it tales you right to a tab that says "report item"

In response, eBay will offer you thoughts and prayers. 

12 hours ago, batman_fan said:

I also love Kirby's work on the Demon.

Oh, MAN.  This is the stuff.  In fact, I just wrote an essay for DC about how much this issue meant to me.  It was the first contemporary Kirby I ever saw (meaning I'd seen his old stuff in reprints, but not what he was currently doing) and it FREAKED ME OUT.  WOW.  Thanks for showing this off.  5 stars. 

 http://www.dccomics.com/blog/2017/08/29/gone-gone-the-form-of-man

Is this the "eating hall" splash you were looking for, Twanj? 

If you look at my Instagram, @glenqgold, I posted about 50 of my favorite Kirby images yesterday. 

3 hours ago, DJRome said:

Marvel Tales #37 sells on Thursday night for $12,500 (auction fees included). By Saturday morning it's on ebay for $20,000.

Isn't the eBay seller also Nate Sanders?  So -- even though they're claiming someone bought it, it didn't actuallysell, unless I'm not reading that correctly.

1 hour ago, comix4fun said:

I remember seeing that piece somewhere in the past. 

I think this showed up about 10-12 years ago and it turned out to be all Sinnott.  I don't quite understand the current credits (Kirby didn't do cover layouts, especially in the 1970s).  Does it mean Jack did the FF 88 cover it's based on?