Jesse-Lee

On 8/25/2020 at 1:05 PM, Lurker89 said:

I'm down to give it a chance. Dark serious vibe.

We bounce back and fourth between good and bad Batmen ... Keaton good followed by a slew of bad until we get to Bale followed by Affleck bad ... And hopefully Pattinson good. Time will tell. 

The tone seems to check out so far.

I can't see Pattinson as Bruce Wayne/Batman. Superboy Prime maybe... He seems too whiny to me for some reason. I could imagine Chris Pratt, or Bradley Cooper. Someone along those lines. That said, I'll see this when it comes out. As a DC comics fanboy, I have to give props to Marvel on how great their movies and overall movie strategies have been. DC just plain dropped the ball when it comes to movies.

Sorry, double post for some reason

So, I'm not new to comics in general, but definitely new to slabbed books and more "serious" collecting overall. One of the pieces of advice I've heard a time or two was to not buy moderns under a 9.8 if possible. But it got me thinking - there are a number of books I want that fall in the copper or modern category that either I can't necessarily afford in a 9.8, or if I try to buy raw, it's a crapshoot.

Here's an actual, tangible example: I really love the Wolverine #17 cover. Classic Byrne cover, Wolvie ready to strike on a simple red background. It sells lately between $125-$180 on eBay in a 9.8 (goCollect lists it at $180 FMV). In my budget situation right now, I could buy that single book and then nothing else for 2-3 months. Or I could buy a lower grade or raw copy and continue to buy other, lower priced stuff like new books and lower-priced back issues every couple of weeks.

Raw copies of that book typically sell between $8-$20 depending on grade, but you're relying on a seller's grading and some online photos, so you can't be assured of a high grade. I recently found a copy of Wolverine #17 in a CGC 9.2 for $45 shipped. So based on raw books, you're paying a $20 premium over a presumptive NM (using the $20 sales price for raw as a ceiling), but you're guaranteed a minimum 9.2 grade and your investment shouldn't really diminish over time if it's a solid performing book (vs. buying what you hope/think is a NM+ raw copy and having it come back an 8.5 for example).

Am I thinking about this wrong? Should I pass on 9.2, 9.4, etc and save for 9.8 only because of future investment? Or should you just buy what you like at good prices you find and rest assured in the fact that solid books should appreciate regardless of grade? Or am I just overthinking the whole thing? Either way, I freaking love that cover and have a sweet CGC NM- coming my way, and it looks great.

My kid just got the new "battle pass" and was showing me all the available skins - Thor, Wolverine, Mystique, She-Hulk, Storm. I'll admit it does look pretty cool. Just based off my anecdotal evidence, I've tried to get him into comics for years (he's 12), and he thinks they're ok, but doesn't really care. He likes the movies and he loves the game - they had a Deadpool skin a while back and he thought that was really cool, even though I won't let him watch the movie yet - but as for actual comics, he could take them or leave them.

Honestly, I feel like if it gives a bump to anything it might be to digital issues. My kids love their devices to the point where I've seen them watching tv and movies on their phone in the living room, where we have a 70" TV. They'll sit there, TV off, eyes glued to their phone video...

14 minutes ago, jeffreyk said:

I won this one last night!

Eyyy!

Don't drink and bid... Eh, it's not that bad, got it for $30 and it is a cool cover, but probably should have passed and found a 9.8 on the 'bay if I really wanted it instead of impulse clicking - shipping cost is half the book cost! Ah well, I'm sure I can break even if I don't want it; price is peanuts compared to the heavy hitters in this thread!

I visited a comic shop today I haven't been to since probably 1997. When I was in college, I'd go to this shop and it was like a hoarder's paradise/nightmare - magazines and comics piled everywhere. Back then you couldn't get into the overflowing long boxes because you'd have to pick up giant stacks of stuff. New books were stacked in piles on the floor, wherever they fit.

Today, the shop is super clean and super organized - back issues all nicely boxed, a proper "new this week" rack on the wall, shelves of wall books behind the counter. The old owner passed away years ago, but the new guys seem to be doing a great job. It looked like an entirely different place!

Anyway, I picked up a couple more new bat-books, and then I found this neat Shadow of the Bat #1 set in a $1 bin, still polybagged. Comes with some cool inserts - I looked at pics online, I want to keep this one bagged for now just because it's kind of cool. I also found Spiderman Unlimited #1 - not in a dollar bin - but at a really fair price for its condition, which is outstanding.

Thanks - I was hoping it'd grade it that range, that's what I actually thought when I saw it.

1 hour ago, Angelo. said:

I feel like that looks better than a 5.5 - it's really bright!

1 minute ago, mec3437 said:

I came home from school.  Kindergarten or first grade, not really sure when.  There was a shoebox of comics that someone had brought over.  I assume my dad knew someone with a newsstand while he was working for the post office.  Anyways, there were quite a few books in there.  Most I read until they fell apart and I never picked up any to be continued stories.  But I read the heck out of two in particular and that got me going.  Still have both in mylars and fullbacks.  

 

 

That's awesome, I just picked up a copy of that same book!

27 minutes ago, D84 said:

Is it just me or does it look like Spidey is punching Hulk below the belt?

Ha, it's the very first thing I thought when I saw it!

I remember liking Cosmic Odyssey - probably been 25 years since I read it though...

Sorry for the bad pic - some more bat-books and a few random covers I liked.

This book is my favorite in my collection - I wrote about why here in another thread. Long story short, it was the book that started my love of comics, and I still have my original copy from my dad. I just got a nice deal on a cleaner copy, and I'd love opinions on a grade. I included a pic of my original copy too just for fun. I think it would actually be really cool to get both copies slabbed, just because of the meaning it holds to me - we'll see...

Batman #209 - I wrote about why this book is so important to me in another thread. Here's my new copy and a side-by-side with my dad's original copy:

1 hour ago, Cruz Kouji said:

I'm very new to comic collecting so I'm not sure what indica and OPG value are, but thank you for your feedback!

The indicia is the printing information, usually in the bottom front or back of the book (first or last page) that tells info like the name of the comic, the company who prints/distributes it, when it was printed/distributed, etc. OPG is the Overstreet Price Guide, a comic pricing and grading guide.

I almost want to buy one just to see what you actually get (aside from getting your money flat out stolen). This feedback on his account was funny though:

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"eBay listing said they were LEGO. These are not LEGO. Copyright infringement!

Lot of 8 Super Heroes Avengers Minifigures LEGO Toys Captain Hulk Iron Man #"

 

Sorry, don't mean to overpost (still only doing 1 or 2 in 24 hours, but I feel like I'm posting these a lot) - but you've all been really helpful in helping me learn to better determine book grades. I've gotten a couple of books recently and wanted to see how you'd grade them vs how they were sold to me. This is Justice League of America #74

Thanks all. It was sold as a 3.0 - this is why I'm posting a bunch of stuff and reading this forum daily, so I can get better at grading and identifying grades. Either way, I didn't pay very much at all, so I'm cool with it. it's still a neat looking book in my opinion!