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47 minutes ago, William-James88 said:

Go for it. the difference in value between a 9.0 and a 9.2 is huge compared to how much it costs to send out. Easy bet to make.

The diff is $100 according to comicsgocollect 

Now, a bump to a 9.4 would be sweet!

If it were to somehow come back an 8.5 I'd punch myself in the face.

9.8- $7,250

9.6-$2,150

9.4-$1,300

9.2-$1,050

9.0-$950

8.5-$775

I wanna do it. I'll probably do it. It can't possibly go down to an 8.5, right?

Scared money don't make money!

10 months later.

FMV $7,250

I hope he bought the book...

On 5/12/2021 at 3:50 PM, Richard Aliff said:

Hello,

I just viewed my grading online, I was confidently expecting a 9.4 - 9.8 for my comic below, but it came with 8.5. Any experts here can tell why was CGC so harsh with the grades? Is it because of the creases or color break? Shall I re-press to remove the creases? Consider me a newbie please. Thanks

Comic Description:
Amazing Spider-Man 361 4/92 Marvel Comics

Grader Notes:
2 creases on Spidey's face right top of front cover breaks color

My ASM 300 came back a 9.0...i was expecting a 9.6.

Notes say light creasing to cover and light spine stress lines.

I was gonna crack it and resubmit with a pressing but I'm afraid.

Grades are all over the place right now.

32 minutes ago, Green Slime said:

By definition a legit reholder won't have a grade change so it retains the same number. If a book sent in for a reholder is obviously not in agreement with the grade the book is re-graded and given a new number.

How could a book be considered not in agreement with the grade unless it's somehow being regraded?

Or are we talking only about possible damage done by CGC while taking it out of the case?

They can't possibly judge the grade already given by  looking at the book with their naked eye.

Grading us a complex process...no?

Since it is possible for the grade to change during re holdering...do they issue a new #?

10 hours ago, Sensei Ryan said:

Can you post a pic of the full front cover?  And are you sure it's not something on the inner well of the CGC case (and not on the actual book itself)?  Before I give my opinion I'd like a better pic...and I'm as OCD as they come   To a fault, sadly, at times, though  

This is a graded 9.6 TWD #5 with 1 color breaking spine line.

What im trying to figure out is...is this color rub on the bottom of the cover and would that count against the grade?

Someone on the modern board was cool enough to post a pic of their copy and it was almost pure white.

I'm guessing if this was a stain, there's no way it could be a 9.6.

Thanks.

38 minutes ago, BladeTX said:

In all of my prior hobbies and this one, I've done very well by holding very high standards on all of my purchases.  I figure, if I really like it, so will someone else (which helped me sell a large coin collection for 20% above market).   If it bothers you now, it will bother you later.  And it will bother the next owner.  So I would pay more and get what you really like.  

Thank you for your advice and we think alike. It does bother me now and I would prob always think of it as the runt of of my TWD litter.

1 hour ago, BladeTX said:

OK - I looked at my book (CGC 9.8).  It has none of that.  Pure white except at the very top below the image are some minute specs in the top 20% of the white area, and at the bottom there are a couple small spots of the blue hue that is part of the main book (zoom in on the center bottom of my image and you can see it).  Other than that, it's all pure white.

Thanks.

I'm trying to decide if I want to return it. I did get it for a decent price and the other 9.6s on Ebay are $75 more than I paid for mine.

There is a raw copy for sale on Ebay and it seems to have the same spotting...even more so as it's also on the Image logo in the top corner.

Fuqq...this is the last book I need to complete the collection and I've had such good luck up to this point.

What would you do?

Live with it or spend another $75 and hope the next one is better?

Thanks.

1 hour ago, BladeTX said:

Looks pure white to me. If it’s not, it is very very close and too hard to tell.  Also the barcode on the left is pure white on other early books and it is the same color as the snow.

Hmmm...so the barcode on my copy does look clean.

But...if your copy looked like mine, you would notice it without having to squint.

A poster on another board said it may be color rub from the book on top of it during the original shipping.

Here's a pic of the barcode:

Could someone who owns a copy of this book take a look at the bottom of the cover and let me know if the snow is pure white?

I have a graded copy and I can't tell if there are stains on the cover or its meant to look the way it does.

It's a 9.6 with a spine ding.

I find it hard to believe CGC would give it a 9.6 if it also had stains...right?

Thanks!

I'm picturing frustrated "card guys" attempting to store 100+ graded comics in their "card guy" man cave...

He got his NM 98 cgc 9.8 for 1200 huh?

He lying...

Need a favor.

Can someone who owns a copy of TWD5 please post a pic of that bottom of the book.

Is the snow pure white?

Thanks.

8 minutes ago, William-James88 said:

don't know what to tell you.

 

For the OP though, I have an actual example of why I don't recommend the tactic (or at least proof that it's not at all a sure fire way to get a deal).

Here is a book I bought on auction for 61$ 

Was said to be around the NM or more area. I got it and yeah, at best a NM (none of that "or more" nonsense). Personally, I would have sold it as a 9.2.

I bought it in November. Let's say I did get it graded, I would only get it back now. A 9.4 now goes for this:

Same price I bought my raw comic for. Not saying the price on the raw comic is bad or the transaction sucked, it was market price and indeed the grade the seller said. But the tactic you suggest of getting it graded (which would be about about $50-60 these days when all the fees are tabulated) would be a massive waste of money. Personally, I don't mind because I'm also the one who bought that graded copy I just posted. 

Instead of grading my comic, I just bought a graded copy, and it came out to the same price  

However, for the the person who did grade that Detective 567 which I purchase, they made nothing (cause they have to pay commission for the sale). They would have made more money selling it raw. That's why you see raws selling on e-bay, they are more profitable for many sellers.

Yeah...i didn't expect you to tell me anything, boss.

That's what the"meh" was about...

1 minute ago, William-James88 said:

Its not new. It's usually what you want to look for on higher grade books as an indication if the book was pressed or not.

But all the other McFarlane ASM books I had graded in 2020 were from the same collection as the 300s.

2 of each: 298, 299 and 316...no finger bends.

Meh...

1 minute ago, comicginger1789 said:

Exactly. I am not saying the people listing are wrong. I am saying frenzies erupt and books get bid higher than (I believe) they should be compared to some copies actually graded out at what these books would land at. 

Personally I like to buy raw listing that says high grade over one that says NM.

I don't trust NM for some reason.

My card was charged once after the pressing and then again after being scheduled for grading.

2 minutes ago, comicginger1789 said:

There are SOOO many books on ebay that I see listed as NEAR MINT!!! HIGH GRADE!!!! WOWZA that, upon inspection, are maybe 8.5-9.0. People go nuts on certain listings and often times, end up paying more. They think it is a 9.6, submit and get a 9.0 and for the hassle, should have just bought a 9.0.

 

Technically...wouldnt 8.5 and 9.0 be considered high grade?

Def would if it's an old book, no?

14 minutes ago, William-James88 said:

It's creases done from reading a book (aka handling a book with your fingers).

First time I've heard of that. I've sent in about 15 books last year and none of the notes say finger bends.

The ASM300s were this year

Something new from cgc?..like frayed spines?

On 5/4/2021 at 7:11 PM, Greatwhite said:

I bought two Amazing Spider-Man 300 Raw books last summer. They look to be in very good condition and I am going to send them in after I get my first submission of less expensive books back from CGC. Considering that RAW ASM 300 are now going for over $3000 on eBay I am glad I bought them for less than $700. But I do hope they will grade at least a 9.4. 

I am currently looking for a few raw books that I want to have just to have. I plan on leaving my collection to a little boy I know. Considering the prices of 9.8 slabbed books now, RAWS are really all I can afford. I look over the photos very carefully but it is still a guessing game. Spine ticks can be invisible even when the seller posts good pictures. 

 

I bought a RAW 1980 Moon Knight #1 a couple of months ago anticipating an uptick in price when the series comes out and it is currently at CGC. I will post the grade when it comes back.

Good luck on the ASM 300s.

I sent 2 in that looked great and they both came back 5.5s.

Finger bends?!?!?

I don't even know what that means...

37 minutes ago, Funnybooks said:

recent employee of the month

Hey...they wanted the lot Shipped by media mail.

10 hours ago, BanjerD said:

Conveyer belts, shipping containers, and machine sorters don't care what your "fragile" label says...  neither does the box of loosely packed monkey wrenches sitting on top of your precious comic.

Flat rate boxes stay with other flat rate boxes...they don't get mixed in with random boxes.

Here's a neat trick to using a USPS flat rate box to ship a slab.

Go to Fed Ex and grab a medium size Fed Ex box. These actually fit inside a USPS medium flat rate box perfectly.

Wrap your slab in bubble and put it in the Fed Ex box THEN put that box into the USPS flat rate box.

Now your slab has double box protection...makes it near impossible to crush it.

19 hours ago, CHASEnBLUE said:

Believe it or not, the $300 slabbed comic did not get damaged. I always wrap slabs three times one way and three times the other with good bubble wrap when using priority boxes and never had a problem for years now. The buyer contacted me this morning and said the slab almost didn't make it but the packaging protected what looks like purposeful damage to the box.

Just a reminder for all of us to take extra care with those slabs when sending them off, even when in a rush. So much for all my fragile stickers!

(Feel free to post photos of any similar delivery catastrophes you have experienced as well)

I don't put fragile on my flat rate boxes

 It makes your box stand out among thousands. I don't want the barely capable postal employees giving my box a second look. Scan it and move on please...thank you.

The delivery people I trust...i don't trust the 3rd shift sorters.