It was looking good right up 'til that last bidder.
Not really. The shill placed his max bid way back at $1000. It was his fake bid that the legit buyers were competing against and, once again, artificially driving up the price. Frankly the seller should have canceled the bid the moment it was placed.
-J.
Not seeing any of this. Where are you getting this information from?
Hit the "show automatic bids" and it will show when the shill first placed hi max bid.
http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=161758004772&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2565
-J.
Who is the shill?
The winner is zero feedback, the $1000 bid is not the same bidder.
I see where zero feedback can be suspicious, but that does does not make every other bid suspicious.
Your post still makes no sense to me.
I understand that you are not seeing what I am talking about. But trust me, it's there. The shill placed a max bid starting at the $1000 mark, and whatever his max shill bid was is what ultimately "won". (thumbs u
-J.
J, I think that I am looking at the same data that you are looking at but coming up with a different conclusion. I think the only thing we agree on is that the zero feedback winning bidder e***c placed his initial bid at $1025.
There is always a risk with a zero feedback bidder, particularly on a high dollar item. We will see what happens in this case. Seriously, you have to stop throwing the "shill" word around with no evidence because you disagree with the current market value of this book. Just because someone has zero feedback does not automatically make them a shill. I, like every other ebay user in history, was a zero feedback buyer at one time and I was not a shill.
Your writing that all these auctions are shilled accuses a lot of good sellers unfairly. You should stop doing it. If it were my book and auction, I wouldn't react so nicely to you. I would tell you to go pound sand. You should also realize that there were two separate underbidders - g***l at $2150 and z***t at $2100 who are high feedback bidders bidding serious coin for this book. I know this doesn't fit your theory that this book should be a few hundred dollars (or less?) but at what point do you start to question if your belief of the current market is just flat wrong. How many bidders/buyers/books do you need to see before you realize that this is not a $500 book in today's market?