Steven Valdez

Not sure, but strange that the guy has so many #181's without the value stamp... as well as plenty that DO have it. Selling page 10 (and several copies of it) without the MVS is just so weird though: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/204518417850?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=705-154756-20017-0&ssspo=lYSZf4ADSY2&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=08cSBa6BRJy&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

On a more cheerful note, I wonder if Marvel is preparing a massive 50th anniversary for Wolvie this year??

@ImmaculateComics (responding to a comment taking him to task for his video showing how CGC cases can be popped) 2 days ago "I should mention that I did accidentally discover a different (and easier) method for opening and resealing 3 cgc slabs in the Summer of 2021. I did not and have not shown that method specifically for the reasons you mentioned."

'I was at one of Carbanaros NY conventions in what I think was year 2000, the year CGC was getting organized. The conversation amongst a few dealers was about a guy in New Jersey who still had a brown box case of uncirculated Hulk 181. The debate was do you just pull one book at a time and sell it without telling people you have hundreds.' posted in 'Comics general'. May 4, 2009 Topnotchman

It really sounds like you don't want this to be happening, not that it isn't happening. "It has to already be in a capsule/well" Not necessarily, but sure - that's preferable and achievable. You make it sound like that's not a possibility. "Maybe if you have your own supply of inner wells and frames." Common knowledge this is available online from China. Or you can canibalize from a random no-value slabbed book. "And the sealing equipment, another 5 figures for that." Glue is not that expensive. You're erecting strawman arguments. Hulk #181 is just a high-value example; plenty of lower-value lower-risk scenarios out there. Let's sit back and wait and see what unfolds over the coming weeks and months.

Another scary possibility that hasn't been touched on yet is those counterfeit key issues that at least a couple of guys have been producing... FOR YEARS, and are still being sold on eBay. What happens when these wind up in popped CGC cases? Raw examples: https://www.ebay.com/itm/196151052411?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=rPTFAyj_Qv6&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=08cSBa6BRJy&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

There's a CGC #181 with page 10 missing on eBay now... with a blue label?? "Condition is Like New." https://www.ebay.com/itm/166510757271?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=NtUhIwj5Tou&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=08cSBa6BRJy&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Yeah, there's a guy who lists about 10 x #181 per month. As well as other Bronze to Modern keys, including ASM #238, usually with either the MJ insert OR Tatooz. I see he's also been selling lots of page 10s from Hulk #181, without even the MVS on them. He still gets OK money on them anyway. I guess this is why there are so many qualified #181's out there with the entire page 10 missing, instead of just the MVS being gone.

You only need one blue label CGC copy, and it would only need to be mid-grade to make some decent coinage. The non-MVS #181 can be raw, and therefore much cheaper than a qualified graded copy. Presumably you will have practised opening low value CGC cases until you're very good at it. There's still good $$ to be made even on a mid-grade switcheroo. I'm sure there are plenty of miscreants at the very least contemplating it right now.

Cuckolding reholdering, essentially.

Literally every comic book YouTuber has had their say on this now, most just regurgitating the initial news. Many of them only know half the story too, and miss the larger implications of the scandal.

I wonder what percentage of #181's had the MVS clipped by zit-faced 13-year-olds 50 years ago? I also wonder how quickly those books will all be subsumed into blue label slabs now that the know-how is out there?

To be fair, random YouTubers who talk about comic books are the prophets and soothsayers of the modern age.

Also, how many people are swapping their green label Hulks into blue label holders today, at home? It's not as if it's a rare book that hardly anybody owns.

Hear me out.... embed the microchips into the comics themselves.

That's interesting... I wonder if cases have ever just popped open in hot climates?

Too bad if that X-Ray specs ad has been clipped though....

Dealer sitting on $500K worth of CGC books: "This is just a glitch, it'll all blow over by early next week." Actual collectors:

Don't need them to be airtight or waterproof... all I'm suggesting is they cannot be opened without breaking the pillars, rather than 'that just popped out with no resistance at all' as Immaculate Comics noted when he was testing it.

Greetings from 2024!!! Yes, it's already the new year here in southeastern Australia, so hello from the future

OK, so he's the king of the Iron Man & Sub-Mariner hill That's not bad!

Thanks... I mean, it doesn't seem to be a very effective way of sealing anything. Maybe the CGC guys just aren't applying it for long enough? I wonder why they don't just use a plastic-melding super glue or similar.

I still don't get what the sonic welder is supposed to do if it's not actually welding the two halves together!

Ha, oh really?? It was always common as.

I remember when that was a $1.50 book all day long for years... no one wanted it because it was an odd one out