gaz973

hi guys,

i hope you having nice holidays...can you give me your opinions on this topic?

 

My book came back from CGC today...grade turned out better than i've expected but its qualified. Reason for green label is small price sticker on left bottom corner of back cover.

 

i've read lots of discussions about green labeled books containing signatures unauthorized by CGC.

My question is, does green label mather so much in cases like this, when reason for it is

just very small visual imperfection? I was thinking about having sticker professionally removed and re-submitting this book...but is blue label really worth additional costs and risk of grade drop in this case? Any opinions?

 

Well, it all depends on your personal preference. If you were asking from a financial point of view then it would be worth it for a valuable book but I'm very doubtful that it would be financially worthwhile for this book.

If you're asking from a collecting perspective then it's entirely down to what you prefer. If you really have a desire for your books to have matching labels then you might find it worthwhile but if the book itself is what you focus on then I'd just leave it like it is.

Personally, price stickers bug me so I wouldn't have got a book with a price sticker on slabbed but that's just me.

How readily available are the All-Colour Comics? Any ideas on print runs?

 

Sounds like a fun collecting niche. Plus, I could still read them. Unlike other foreign comics.

I don't know what the print runs were but they were certainly a small fraction of the cents runs. Also of significance is that generally there was a much smaller percentage that were carefully looked after once purchased due to less of a collecting mentality in the UK compared to the US leading to an even smaller percentage of high grade copies.

"During the 1960s, various Marvel comic strips were reprinted in the UK in a variety of weekly comics. Titles such as Pow, Smash and Fantastic. Even that venerable organ, Eagle, home of Dan Dare, eventually got in on the act, reprinting some Tales of Asgard in its final days. In 1972, Marvel took the decision to stop licensing its characters to other publishers in the UK and took on the job itself. That year they began publishing The Mighty World of Marvel, a weekly comic that featured reprints of the Hulk, Spider-Man and the Fantastic Four. After a few months, the project was successful enough to spawn a spin-off, and Spider-Man was given his own weekly, called, imaginatively enough, Spider-Man Comics Weekly. His back-ups were Thor and Iron Man. And so began the long and fruitful career of Marvel Comics UK, though, in those early days, the comics were produced and packaged in the US, with the UK address merely being an office for traffic control and mail.

 

Now, once they started the British operation, Marvel restricted the importation of the American comics. This was intended to give the British comics a good start in newsagents as they wouldn’t be competing against their American cousins. Suddenly it became difficult to find Marvel comics in this country; for example, I never saw an American Spider-Man or Hulk comic until the early 1980s, I had to make do with the British reprints. However, after a few years, Marvel relaxed their rules a little and a small range of comics were allowed into the country. That was the time when I saw Captain America #182.

 

The British reprints were publshed weekly and featured a glossy colour cover, with black and white interior art (initially the interiors were two-tone: green for Hulk and red for Spider-Man). They were also larger in size than their American counterparts, being roughly 11″x8″. They ran 36 pages, and in order to pack in all the strips, the original comics were serialised, so a single issue of the US Spider-Man comic would be run over, say, three issues of Spider-Man Comics Weekly. Clearly that caused a shortage of cover images, and so a variety of artists passing through the bullpen at Marvel US were pressed into service providing new cover images for the British weeklies. Stan Lee’s brother, Larry Lieber, did the lion’s share, but there are covers by the likes of John Romita, John Buscema, Carmine Infantino and, yes, even Jack Kirby. New splash pages also had to be provided for each weekly installment.

 

Once Marvel allowed the American comics to be distributed again, they needed to differentiate them in some way from the British comics. I’d imagine they still didn’t want the American material to compete with the British reprints, and so they tried to ensure that potential buyers were getting something different for their money. Yes, you could read the adventures of Captain America in Titans Weekly, but if you forked over your 8p for this you get ALL-COLOUR stories, as opposed to the black and white weeklies. Why, they’re as alike as chalk and cheese — why not buy both?

 

The American comics market has long turned its nose up at these British-ized versions. The belief persists that these comics are reprints, or second editions, and are considered of little value. There is no truth in this. These comics were printed at exactly the same time as the American copies. All that happened was that, at a certain point in the cover printing process, a switch was flicked and the black plate changed to reflect the British price and banner. It’s even been claimed that the British versions were actually printed first, while the presses were run up to speed. Really, there is no difference whatsoever other than the cover price and banner; the interiors are exactly the same

 

Marvel All-Colour Comics. After the austerity of the black and white, chopped up strips, these were a revelation to my young eyes."

 

Marvel All-Colour Comics

I learnt something new, didn't know about Eagle reprinting Tales Of Asgard.

Still Kevin,

I think this signals the begining of the end. You've probably got rid of more comics than most of us own.

What made you finally decide to do it?

He needed the room to fit more comics in.

 

I know you were joking Garry, but that is the truth.

I am only getting rid of duplicates and only VG and below, these are overspill from all the collections I bought and stripped back in the day.

Most of this stuff has no monetary value other than great stories to read and I hope by giving them away, someone will read and enjoy them instead of them taking up my valuable space.

I was inspired by DR.X who was giving away coverless stuff a few months ago and a few others were commenting at the pointlessness of keeping loads of drek.

It is not the beginning of the end Henry, I promise, I just need to get my main comic room in order and to do that I need to move some stuff out to get more stuff in and I do not want the stuff coming out to get mixed in with the drek.

Answer = Bye Bye Drek.

Good on you, mate.

Still Kevin,

I think this signals the begining of the end. You've probably got rid of more comics than most of us own.

What made you finally decide to do it?

He needed the room to fit more comics in.

I agree stunning Chris.

Did I misread Kevin's post did he get rid of some comics/boxes of comics or did my eyes deceive me?

Not a hoax, not a dream, not an alternate universe, Kevin has actually got rid of 20 long boxes.

Only another four thousand long boxes to go.

Anyone notice any movement on the Marvel Presents books from 3 on?

I got the impression that there was a bump but it's back to being pretty de-bumped again, now.

3 pints down the pub this afternoon!

 

Now my coding makes perfect sense

Is there ever a time when you're not drinking?

X Men # 141 & 142 are showing as going up in value significantly on GPA and I've had several enquiries from people looking for copies.

Photobucket is another option and is the one that I use.

Thanks for all the welcomes. Hope to find time to post more regularly that every three years.

Anyone suggest other good threads to read/contribute too (I did read the thread with the pence variation of Conan 1 - mmmmmm)

Good threads aren't that easy to find these days.

I did enjoy the "plot hole" thread started by Andrew. http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=6235296&fpart=1

can you guys give me any advices about best shop/dealer of mylar bags and boards in UK?

im usually getting supplies like boxes and other stuff from *comicjohn* and mylites directly from admin of Geekedout.co.uk forum which went down recently

...any other options? or maybe some dealers in other european countries?

Hotflips will be at London SuperCon. Always got on OK buying stuff from comicjohn.

You may need to sit down to read this but, money depending I've managed to free up the weekend of London so may be able to make it after all.

Hi everyone, im new here,

i just find this thread thanks to Stryfe1000 ... its nice to meet other collectors from europe!

I'm Tomas and I'm Czech

 

Welcome to the UK (and Europe) thread, Tomas. What do you collect?

 

Im collecting Dark Horse stuff, mainly comics based on mi favorite movie franchises...mostly Aliens comics, AvPs and other crossovers with Aliens, but also Army of Darkness, etc...

Here is link to my Aliens journal : http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=6044343#Post6044343

Just read your journal, good stuff.

Hi everyone, im new here,

i just find this thread thanks to Stryfe1000 ... its nice to meet other collectors from europe!

I'm Tomas and I'm Czech

Welcome to the UK (and Europe) thread, Tomas. What do you collect?

Hi everyone, this is my first posting here but I'm not sure if I've joined a comic forum or a football forum (either is fine). I've scanned through this thread and already know a few of the 'regulars'

Hey Henry, good to see you here.

Occasionally the football nerds get carried away with talking football. The comic nerds are making a comeback though.

I class FF # 67 as "1st appearance and origin of Adam Warlock, minor appearance on last page".

I class Thor # 165 as "1st full appearance of Adam Warlock".

I think that both issues have great merit and that the classification of either one shouldn't detract from the desirability of the other. Too much emphasis is put on "what is the true 1st appearance". There is room for more than one stage to the beginning of a character.

some nice dc runs on comicopolis's site, I remember you had some nice early Avengers on there a year or two back.

Yeah, Andrew's running the Comicopolis site now and he's got some great DC runs on there. I humbly suggest anyine reading this thread should take a look.

(thumbs u

BTW, at least this has caused me to check out your ebay store to see if you might have stuff to trade for a certain FF # 1.

If they did buy something, fair enough, tell me about it, if they didn't then why else are they saying usual ebay standards?

 

Anyway have you got a problem with me comicopolis? As I remember the last time I mentioned kungfugirl50 on a thread, someone said about a nice batman 232 at a fair price, and you said something about ridiculous prices on the Spawn 1's if I remember correctly? I think I had them up for 10.99 or 12.99, which I've sold about half of them.

 

With free postage included, ebay, paypal fees, shipping over from a forum member on here.

 

If you have, I don't mind meeting up with you for a chat or something?

thanks

herc

 

I think you might be getting me confused with somebody else.

 

Anything above 99p for a Spawn comic is a ridiculous price.

 

You aint kidding there!

 

I sold 2 NM Spawn #1s a year ago for exactly 99p on eBay.

 

Fer gawds sake be quiet, I've got a Spawn # 1 for sale.

 

As long as its for 99p you'll be fine.

But it's not NM, how much will I have to pay someone to take it?

If they did buy something, fair enough, tell me about it, if they didn't then why else are they saying usual ebay standards?

 

Anyway have you got a problem with me comicopolis? As I remember the last time I mentioned kungfugirl50 on a thread, someone said about a nice batman 232 at a fair price, and you said something about ridiculous prices on the Spawn 1's if I remember correctly? I think I had them up for 10.99 or 12.99, which I've sold about half of them.

 

With free postage included, ebay, paypal fees, shipping over from a forum member on here.

 

If you have, I don't mind meeting up with you for a chat or something?

thanks

herc

 

I think you might be getting me confused with somebody else.

 

Anything above 99p for a Spawn comic is a ridiculous price.

 

You aint kidding there!

 

I sold 2 NM Spawn #1s a year ago for exactly 99p on eBay.

Fer gawds sake be quiet, I've got a Spawn # 1 for sale.

I just think that while you may be aware of the comments made you are misunderstanding the context of them.

 

As I say, no one knocked you and the overall impression given was that you were a trustworthy seller.

I think that Phil's right on this. It seems to me that Lance got upset by comments that weren't intended to be offensive or negative. I didn't participate in that discussion and I didn't know that Lance was the seller being discussed but I didn't think anyone was out of order to be honest.

I like everyone who has posted in this whole thing and I'd buy from Lance. Maybe we should just cal it a misunderstanding and move on from there?

I'd like to know where this drama supposedly happened.

 

Dunno. Back to the football and other parochial stuff.

 

Please... don't talk about football.

Buy some burly defenders in the transfer window.

The only burly Defender was the Hulk, Namor and the Surfer were quite skinny.